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Post Millennialism Safe House:

Members who chose to participate in this safe house should believe in Post Millennialism (see definition below). This thread is for discussing end time events and prophecy (Biblical) from an Post Millennial point of view. Fellowship posts from all members are welcome.
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Postmillennialism
In Christian eschatology (end-times theology), postmillennialism, or postmillenarianism, is an interpretation of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation which sees Christ's second coming as occurring after (Latin post-) the "Millennium", a Golden Age in which Christian ethics prosper.[1] The term subsumes several similar views of the end times, and it stands in contrast to premillennialism and, to a lesser extent, amillennialism (see Summary of Christian eschatological differences).

Postmillennialism holds that Jesus Christ establishes his kingdom on earth through his preaching and redemptive work in the first century and that he equips his church with the gospel, empowers her by the Spirit, and charges her with the Great Commission (Matt 28:19) to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism expects that eventually the vast majority of people living will be saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith, righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the affairs of men and of nations. After an extensive era of such conditions Jesus Christ will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously, to end history with the general resurrection and the final judgment after which the eternal order follows.
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I hope this thread will serve as a collection of resources for those considering this perspective.

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From Hammster: We are making this post a compilation of links that we post so that there will be a one-stop easy reference.

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A Study of American Postmillenialism by Kim Riddlebarger (Riddlebarger is Amil and has written some fantastic books explaining that perspective.) site

Essays on The Covenantal Kingdom (in depth) site

Always Victorious by F. N. Lee site

Before Jerusalem Fell by Ken Gentry (massive work that proves the writing of Revelation was before 70 a.d.) pdf

Search: Postmillennialism | SermonAudio

#DatPostmil Podcast - Reconstructionist Radio


 
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Wiki:

In Christian end-times theology (eschatology), postmillennialism, or postmillenarianism, is an interpretation of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation which sees Christ's second coming as occurring after (Latin post-) the "Millennium", a Golden Age in which Christian ethics prosper.[1] The term subsumes several similar views of the end times, and it stands in contrast to premillennialism and, to a lesser extent, amillennialism (see Summary of Christian eschatological differences).

Postmillennialism holds that Jesus Christ establishes his kingdom on earth through his preaching and redemptive work in the first century and that he equips his church with the gospel, empowers her by the Spirit, and charges her with the Great Commission (Matt 28:19) to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism expects that eventually the vast majority of people living will be saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith, righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the affairs of men and of nations. After an extensive era of such conditions Jesus Christ will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously, to end history with the general resurrection and the final judgment after which the eternal order follows.

Postmillennialism was a dominant theological belief among American Protestants who promoted reform movements in the 19th and 20th centuries such as abolitionism[2] and the Social Gospel.[3] Postmillennialism has become one of the key tenets of a movement known as Christian Reconstructionism. It has been criticized by 20th century religious conservatives as an attempt to immanentize the eschaton.

BTW; I and many others do not watch videos that promote a certain view.
Sola scripture please.

Sola scriptura or solo scripture? The Bible assume all have a sin nature that we war against it (Romans, the entire epistle), scripture teaches that no one is perfect and therefore we workout our theology in the community of the church. I could repeat the scriptural arguments from the links above but that is redundant. The videos and links deal with scripture and scripture alone. Don't be afraid to learn from other Christians.

Yours in the Lord,

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@Hammster you can wade through some of the following sermons.

Search: Postmillennialism | SermonAudio

Greg Bahnsen has some sermons on there worth listening to. I'm still more of a Historicist, and yes there is crossover between orthodox preterism and Historicism.

Historicist Only - Historicist Resources

What a difference it would make if Christians returned to the truth of biblical Postmillennialism! “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you… " The pessimism of Premil and even most strains of Amil have dampened the church's desire to win souls, we need a biblical understanding of eschatology to restore our optimism for victory...after all, "why polish brass on a sinking ship."

Worldview matters. Presuppositions matter.

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Just ordered Postmillennialism by Mathison and The Mission of God by Boot. Both look to be interesting works.

I've read about 100 pages of Mathison's book and found it excellent. I'm taking my time as I work through it, making notes and looking up the scriptures as I go. I ordered The Puritan Hope mentioned in the video and will start that before long.

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Matthew 13:31-33 NKJV
Another parable He put forth to them, saying: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field, [32] which indeed is the least of all the seeds; but when it is grown it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches." [33] Another parable He spoke to them: "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened."
 
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Amil and Postmil, where they are similar and where they differ.

Do you consider him correct? For example, he says PostMillenialists are of the opinion that the majority of people just before the end will be believers. Or is that just the opinion of some, maybe most, Post M?

It is said that the majority view of the old Reformers, was Amil; do we then suppose that to be the case nowadays? From where many of us (Reformed) come, we tend to assume a premil POV. I have not really studied a canvassing of Calvinists, but having been brought up in a fundamentalist semi-dispensational atmosphere (with certain people close to me holding their tongue in their cheek, but keeping their mouth closed) I have always assumed there was going to be a literal thousand year reign of Christ upon the earth, though that always did bring up all sorts of questions, (like, this earth, or just what?) and apparent contradictions for me.

I will have to look into this further. Thanks.
 
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Do you consider him correct? For example, he says PostMillenialists are of the opinion that the majority of people just before the end will be believers. Or is that just the opinion of some, maybe most, Post M?

China is on the verge of being the biggest Christian nation, India and Africa as well as the Middle East are experience phenomenal church growth. Even though Christians are not suppose to get our eschatology from the news or polls this trend is hopeful.

Protestant Christianity is booming in China

Chinese Communist Party threatened by growth of the Church - Mission Network News

Postmillennialism: The Final Apostasy and Rebellion? by Loraine Boettner – Grace Online Library

It is said that the majority view of the old Reformers, was Amil;

Amil and Postmil were not two separate systems of eschatology until the 1800's.

do we then suppose that to be the case nowadays?

I believe most are Amil today.

From where many of us (Reformed) come, we tend to assume a premil POV.

You would likely get a mixed bag if you polled Reformed Baptists but most paedobaptists would likely show themselves to be Amil. Premil is often held by Calvinistic (not Reformed) Baptists like John MacArthur.

I have not really studied a canvassing of Calvinists, but having been brought up in a fundamentalist semi-dispensational atmosphere (with certain people close to me holding their tongue in their cheek, but keeping their mouth closed) I have always assumed there was going to be a literal thousand year reign of Christ upon the earth, though that always did bring up all sorts of questions, (like, this earth, or just what?) and apparent contradictions for me.

I will have to look into this further. Thanks.

The 'thousand years' is a real period of time but not limited to just 1,000 years.

Yours in the Lord,

jm
 
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Postmillennial Chart jm feileadhmor.png

My draft of a postmil chart.
 
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"this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled" Matthew 24:34 is the restatement of the warning given to the scribes and pharisees that their judgement would "come upon this generation" Matthew 23:26 That means the judgement found in Matthew 24 happened during the 1st century proving Christ's words.

Futurists deny Christ's prophetic statements by ignoring the plain, literal meaning of "this generation" (a 40 year period) which happens to work out perfectly to 70 a.d.

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