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Republicans' appalling comments can tip the scale for undecided voters-IMHO

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Anna Scott

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How the GOP's Real Agenda Is Revealed in Their Nasty Rape Comments
“Republican activist Phyllis Schlafly declared that marital rape doesn't exist, because when you get married you sign up to be sexually available to your husband at all times.”
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Rep. Todd Akin
"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume maybe that didn't work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist."
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Boston Globe: US Senate candidate Richard Mourdock stands by comment that pregnancy from rape ‘something God intended’
Richard Mourdock: ‘‘I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.’’
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National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman Sen. John Cornyn of Texas actually supported Mourdock, saying that the Republican's view on abortion is the same as that of Mourdock's rival, Rep. Joe Donnelly.
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Global Post: “Some Girls Rape Easy“: Republican candidate Roger Rivard sparks outrage

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Sharron Angle's Advice For Rape Victims Considering Abortion: Turn Lemons Into Lemonade
In the case of a young girl raped by her father , Sharron Angle insisted that "two wrongs don't make a right," and “Lemons can be made into lemonade.”
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Who talks like this? Who says, “lemons can be made into lemonade” when a young girl has been raped by her father. Regardless of what one believes about the abortion issue; such a statement is offensively and outrageously insensitive. The trauma of such a rape can take a lifetime to overcome, and some never heal.

What kind of person says, some girls rape easy or marital rape doesn't exist or in a "legitimate" rape a girl will not become pregnant?

Then there is Mitt Romney's statement about Americans who don't pay taxes:

Mitt Romney Bootlegs, Clinging to the 47 Percent of ‘Entitled’ ‘Victims, Silver Spoons and Eastwood Talks (PM Note)
“believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax. . . .

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“My job is not to worry about those people,” Romney says in the video. “I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.””
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Never mind that the poor, elderly, disabled, veterans/military, etc. can easily fall into this 47% who do not pay taxes. Though, I'm quite certain Romney cares about the very wealthy who manage to pay no taxes.

This is the first Presidential race in which I found myself in the "undecided" voter category. (I've heard conservative talk show hosts insult "undecided voters.")

Romney's obvious disdain for the less fortunate, combined with the inexcusable comments Republicans have made about women and rape, provided the tipping point for me in this election.

I am a registered Republican. I voted for Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush.

In November, I will vote for President Obama. In fact, I will vote a straight Democrat ticket.

One thing Republicans have managed to accomplished is turning this Republican into a Democrat.
 

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Any comments on the actual subject matter of this thread?

I will vote straight Republican :)

Obama's record:

1. Most Americans on food stamps - ever

2. Most Americans in poverty - ever

3. From 2009 to 2012, the labor force participation rate has dropped EVERY year.

4. Middle class incomes are down 10%.

5. Obama added $5.2T to our deficit, twice that Bush added in 8 years.

********** His economic record is terrible, and he has NO NEW IDEAS ***********

Not to mention his position on moral issues I cannot agree with:

1. Pro abortion

2. Pro gay marriage (real just about the $$$ to get married filing jointly tax break)
 
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It's all propaganda, and I think Americans know it. They don't care about rhetoric or "comments", they care about the issues, and the records, of the leaders they are choosing. Only one of your comments is even partially relevant to Romney, and everyone has heard the 47% story 10 million times now. Romney already said he cares about 100% of Americans. Need I find something stupid Obama and Biden have said? It won't take 10 seconds.

Next time you want to set an OP "trap", you might not want to be so obvious to expose the trap before the cheese.
 
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Who talks like this? Who says, “lemons can be made into lemonade” when a young girl has been raped by her father. Regardless of what one believes about the abortion issue; such a statement is offensively and outrageously insensitive. The trauma of such a rape can take a lifetime to overcome, and some never heal.

What kind of person says, some girls rape easy or marital rape doesn't exist or in a "legitimate" rape a girl will not become pregnant?
Those are really terrible statements that should never have been made. I'm not entirely clear on how rape even became a campaign topic at all. It's a disgusting crime and a horrible sin, everyone opposes it who has any shred of honor, and everyone should show Christian charity to victims.
 
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Those are really terrible statements that should never have been made. I'm not entirely clear on how rape even became a campaign topic at all. It's a disgusting crime and a horrible sin, everyone opposes it who has any shred of honor, and everyone should show Christian charity to victims.

Amen! :thumbsup:
 
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I don't really have a problem with most of this. I think that the only one that gives me pause is the one with the ellipses, so before I get too up in arms, I'd like to see the whole quote.

Is that the last quote you are asking about? The August 2012 one?
 
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I don't really have a problem with most of this. I think that the only one that gives me pause is the one with the ellipses, so before I get too up in arms, I'd like to see the whole quote.

Yeah comparing those quotes to the republican rape quotes makes Obama seem like a real American and the republican look rape apologists. Oh wait some of them are.
 
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Those are really terrible statements that should never have been made. I'm not entirely clear on how rape even became a campaign topic at all.
Some people think abortion should be allowed in the case of rape but the politicians who made the remarks do not.


It's a disgusting crime and a horrible sin, everyone opposes it who has any shred of honor, and everyone should show Christian charity to victims.
Nearly everyone is opposed to rape, but some politicians qualify that with "legitimate".
 
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Is that the last quote you are asking about? The August 2012 one?

No, the April one with the ellipses in the middle. I would say that government investment is part of what made this country great, and I wonder if he was adding more to the sentence as well and the ellipses were used to make it read as if government investment was the only thing.
 
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I could list a whole page about the insanity of voting for Willard Mittens Romney. Where to begin? But that's not what Anna, our dear OP, is talking about. She's talking about the brutal, lacking-in-tact, nasty speech that Republicanism is taking on. And I concur with my sister in Christ.

Sarah Palin the other day said Obama is shuckin' and jivin'. African-Americans know full well the slavery, ignoramus, African field servant undertones that are present. We had John Sanunu saying the only reason Colin Powell, a distinguished general and statesman, is again endorsing Obama is because they're both black....then we hear this lovely rape stuff constantly. Paul Ryan has lauded Ayn Rand in the past as one of his inspirational heroes that left a huge impact on his life. That in itself shows a great deal about the "you're on your own!" GOP mentality as well as seeing selfishness as a huge virtue. For that is the essence of Objectivism, Rand's philosophy....pure selfishness as virtue.

We see these t-shirts passed out at Mitt rallies that say "2012 Vote out Obama: don't RE-NIGG" and "let's put the WHITE back in the White House!" This is the stuff Anna, our OP, is talking about.

If you ever have a loved one in your family who is a victim of rape, you'll realize why this rape stuff is a sensitive, painful, awful topic....and why the Republicans shouldn't be so callous and absurd about it.

We've seen racism in the forementioned t-shirts and at Tea Party rallies these pictures of Obama as a Kenyan jungle-monkey, or our President dressed like a primitive zulu warrior with a bone in his nose and a grass skirt and warpaint. This stuff is offensive and rude.

Then we have Tagg Romney saying he'd like to punch our President in the face. Then we had the "you lie!" outrageous outburst in the State of the Union a couple years back. It's a pattern with the modern neo-con-dominated GOP. It's a pattern of backwards pre-civil war thinking coupled with anti-female boys' club mentalities. Disturbing.
 
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No, the April one with the ellipses in the middle. I would say that government investment is part of what made this country great, and I wonder if he was adding more to the sentence as well and the ellipses were used to make it read as if government investment was the only thing.

"They've got one message and that is, we're going to make sure that we cut people's taxes even more -- so that by every objective measure our deficit is worse and we will slash government investments that have made this country great, not because it's going to balance the budget, but because it's driven by our ideological vision about how government should be. That's their agenda, pure and simple."

Remarks by the President at a Campaign Event -- Portland Museum of Art, Portland, ME | The White House

Thanks for making me dig out that socialist statement by Barack Obama! :thumbsup:
 
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"They've got one message and that is, we're going to make sure that we cut people's taxes even more -- so that by every objective measure our deficit is worse and we will slash government investments that have made this country great, not because it's going to balance the budget, but because it's driven by our ideological vision about how government should be. That's their agenda, pure and simple."

Remarks by the President at a Campaign Event -- Portland Museum of Art, Portland, ME | The White House

Thanks for making me dig out that socialist statement by Barack Obama! :thumbsup:
Thanks for the full quote. I don't have any problem with this statement either, then, seeing it in context.
 
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