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Republicans: Always right, never wrong

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[font=&quot]Jonathan Chait:
[/font]LAST WEEK, I wrote that conservatives think they have "won the war of ideas" when, in fact, they have simply reduced their ideas to a few simple bromides. There's also another reason why conservatives have such misplaced confidence in the superiority of their beliefs: They refuse to ever question them.

Liberal writer Rick Pearlstein explained this recently when he appeared at a conference on conservatism. "In conservative intellectual discourse, there is no such thing as a bad conservative," he said. "Conservatism never fails. It is only failed." So whenever conservative policies crash and burn in the real world, rather than rethink their ideas, conservatives simply redefine the failures as un-conservative.

A perfect example is President Bush's habit of simultaneously cutting taxes and jacking up spending. For a couple of years now, conservatives have objected to this profligacy. The whole thrust of the effort has been to paint Bush as un-conservative. As my colleague and fellow Times columnist Jonah Goldberg wrote on these pages a few weeks ago, "[Bush's] big first-term domestic initiatives — aside from tax cuts — were an education bill cosponsored by Ted Kennedy, campaign finance 'reform' favored by the sensible-shoes types and the biggest expansion in entitlements (prescription drug benefits) since the Great Society."

Conservative pundit Bruce Bartlett has a forthcoming book titled "Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy." His central argument is that Bush's economic record is un-conservative. Whatever goes wrong as a result of Bush's policies, conservatives can get off scot-free: It wasn't us that bankrupted the country, your honor. It was that moderate Bush!

The problem is that President Bush has been slavishly following the conservative lead on economics. Bush's father, remember, signed a budget deal in 1990 that slashed hundreds of billions of dollars in spending, but he had to accept a small tax hike on the rich in order to get it. Conservatives rose up in revolt. Their message was: Low taxes matter more than low spending.

Conservative apparatchik Stephen Moore once said: "Low taxes are the central linchpin of conservatism. We always say it's possible to disagree about abortion, gay rights, the proper level of Americorps funding or military spending, but we can't disagree about our one unifying message as conservatives."

George W. Bush got this message loud and clear. Conservatives rallied behind him as their standard bearer because he promised deep tax cuts. That he implicitly opposed deep spending cuts — with his talk of "compassion" and scorn for "balancing the budget on the backs of the poor" — and explicitly promised a prescription drug benefit was perfectly fine.

Conservatives didn't accept this strategy because they had no choice. They accepted it because they thought it would work. They grumbled about the spending but believed that slashing taxes would "starve the beast" and force down spending. Conservatives were never very clear on just how this mechanism would work, and it hasn't. (They like to talk about "cutting the government's allowance," but that doesn't work when the government can borrow all the money it wants.) Rather than reexamine their failed strategy, they're simply writing Bush out of conservatism.

Liberals have had plenty of failures too — welfare, hostility toward the military, racial quotas, etc. But while liberals have responded to failures with fierce internal debates, conservatives have responded to theirs by casting the deviationists from their midst. No wonder they think they've never been wrong.
 
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These guys aren't really mainstream first of all, and second Bush's big government twist on Conservatism is generally unpopular amongst Republican and REALLY unpopular in conservative intellectual circles. As for destroying our country A.) It isn't "destroyed" b.) most of our country's problems can be shared equally by republican and democrats.
 
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TheDaywalker said:
These guys aren't really mainstream first of all, and
Who are these guys? This is an opinion article.

second Bush's big government twist on Conservatism is generally unpopular amongst Republican and REALLY unpopular in conservative intellectual circles.
Isn't conservative intellectual an oxymoron?:p

As for destroying our country A.) It isn't "destroyed" b.) most of our country's problems can be shared equally by republican and democrats.
Where did it say the country was being destroyed?

I share the opinion of the OP. The conservatives don't admit they are wrong. They defend Bush until the end for the sake of the soldiers and a war that virtually everyone outside of the republican party disagrees with.
 
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JustOneWay said:
Who are these guys? This is an opinion article.


Isn't conservative intellectual an oxymoron?:p


Where did it say the country was being destroyed?

I share the opinion of the OP. Some conservatives don't admit they are wrong. They defend Bush until the end for the sake of the soldiers and a war that virtually everyone outside of the republican party disagrees with.

There, that's better. :)
 
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JustOneWay said:
Who are these guys? This is an opinion article.


Isn't conservative intellectual an oxymoron?:p


Where did it say the country was being destroyed?

I share the opinion of the OP. Most conservatives don't admit they are wrong. They defend Bush until the end for the sake of the soldiers and a war that virtually everyone outside of the republican party disagrees with.
Nightson said:
There, that's better. :)

I will haggle with you!
 
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The article is simply incorrect that policies like current trend of cutting taxes and increasing spending is anything like a conservative fiscal policy (Ronald Regan implemented strange and new "supply side" economics without any real basis to think it would work).



It would be silly to think that adventurous and unnecessary foreign wars has something to do with being conservative, or for that matter wanting to throw out the current tax code or undermine the current social security plan by constantly "borrowing" from it are conservative. The president’s plans to borrow trillions of dollars to put the whole plan in the hands of the people, the unprecedented amounts of pork and corporate welfare in recent years are anything but conservative, and the broadening of state power through the patriot act, torture, and generally making the government bigger, are not conservative ideals.



You can cut taxes all you wish, but if you just run up deficits you are not being conservative. That would be a lot like me wanting to work less and get more credit cards and expecting my finances to work out. When sending a nation into war one should exercise restraint and patience, carefully weighing options and being sure you need to before ever deciding to resort to violence. When running huge deficits it is common sense that LESS pork should be doled out for questionable programs, not more (massively profitable corporations like oil companies can take care of themselves). Borrowing from social security to work with budget deficits is basically stealing from the future elderly, and it is a habit our current “conservative” overlords have picked up from past congresses.



The conclusion is simple:



The Republican Party is not a conservative party (if there really is one), at least not on fiscal policy, taxation, foreign war, the size of government, or checking its power. They are simply the party that is most bought out by corporations.



The Republican Party is only sort of conservative when it decides to side with "traditional values" (whatever that means). So, it pursues these values by trying to strip away other peoples rights to decide their moral lives for themselves (which I assume is a liberal idea).



What you really have to ask yourself is; does conservative really mean much of anything nowadays?




 
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JustOneWay said:
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[font=&quot]Jonathan Chait:...[/font]Liberals have had plenty of failures too — welfare, hostility toward the military, racial quotas, etc. But while liberals have responded to failures with fierce internal debates, conservatives have responded to theirs by casting the deviationists from their midst. No wonder they think they've never been wrong.
Isn't that what the Democrats do? Just ask Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman
 
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