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Stop saying it and actually demonstrate it for once.JohnR7 said:But if you say that evolution means one species changed into another species, then your evolutionary theory is false.
The data says differently. Including observation of new species forming from existing species.JohnR7 said:But if you say that evolution means one species changed into another species, then your evolutionary theory is false.
Basically, creationism is the theory that God zapped plants and animals into existence within defined limits -- kinds -- out which the plants and animals can't change.We are spinning our wheels here, because you do not even know what creationism is, so you have no idea if it is true or false.
You have never produced evidence or proof. Of ANY of your claims.JohnR7 said:Put up with what? Your arogance. I produce evidence and proof all the time.
But your going to have to open up your blind eyes to see it, your going to have to take your fingers out of your deaf ears to hear the truth.
I am talkihng about biological evolution. If you need to know what that is (despite being told many, many times) check any good textbook.JohnR7 said:It depends on what you mean by evolution. If you define evolution as change, then I do not think anyone will deny that we live in a changing world.
But if you say that evolution means one species changed into another species, then your evolutionary theory is false.
False. I know what it is; it is false and has been proven to be so.JohnR7 said:We are spinning our wheels here, because you do not even know what creationism is, so you have no idea if it is true or false.
Then you shouldn't be raping the Bible to have it say things opposite or different from what it really says.JohnR7 said:As far as "raping the bible", this is a christian forum, so do not be surprised if you run into christians here. As christians we are to be living, walking, talking examples of the Bible. Everything we say, think or do, is done within the guidelines of the Bible.
Out of context again. This comes from a chapter where Paul is discussing the role of Jesus in salvation. Verses 18-25 discusses hope and sufferings.Even we are told that "creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God." (Romans 8:21)
But you say one species can't turn into another. Yet we have observed it happening thousands of times! If God created each kind/species, then one species can't turn into another. But since that happens, creationism must be false.JohnR7 said:Evolution is false, not creationism. What little bit of truth that keep a whole pack of lies afloat will all come crashing down one of these days.
If a species is determined by reproductive barriors, then there really is no difference between a species and a biblical kind.
You seem to have quite a bit of growing to do.JohnR7 said:Being of one mind comes with maturity and perfection.
If people are not in agreement, it just means they need to grow up.
When? John, please give us an example of what you consider "evidence" and "proof".JohnR7 said:Put up with what? Your arogance. I produce evidence and proof all the time.
This sounds like you are considering your misquotes of the Bible to be "evidence" and "proof". It is not in this discussion. You need physical evidence.But your going to have to open up your blind eyes to see it, your going to have to take your fingers out of your deaf ears to hear the truth.
I think we need to pin John down on what specifically he regards ad evidence and proof. He has never produced any physical evidence. Evidence in the physical universe. But is that what he means by the words "evidence" and "proof"? Or does he consider his misquotes of the Bible to be evidence and proof?The Bellman said:You have never produced evidence or proof. Of ANY of your claims.
lucaspa said:He has never produced any physical evidence.
According to talkorigin: "pop science nonsense abounds".Misunderstandings about evolution are damaging to the study of evolution and biology as a whole. People who have a general interest in science are likely to dismiss evolution as a soft science after absorbing the pop science nonsense that abounds. The impression of it being a soft science is reinforced when biologists in unrelated fields speculate publicly about evolution. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html
Or does he consider his misquotes of the Bible to be evidence and proof?
At least I have grown past the third grade level that you are at in your understanding of the Bible.lucaspa said:You seem to have quite a bit of growing to do.
Actually, your the one who needs to say something, rather than to spend all of your time attacking people.Mechanical Bliss said:Stop saying it and actually demonstrate it for once.
Two questions John:JohnR7 said:According to talkorigin: "pop science nonsense abounds".
Why do I need to produce additional evidence when evolutionists admit that "nonsense abounds" when it comes to evolutionary science?
JohnR7 said:At least I have grown past the third grade level that you are at in your understanding of the Bible.
No, my reading comprehension skills are just fine. I tend to do pretty good on those kind of tests.Nathan Poe said:have you been classified with reading comprehension difficulties?
I'm sorry to hear that.JohnR7 said:No, my reading comprehension skills are just fine. I tend to do pretty good on those kind of tests.
Have you read the list of endangered or extinct species? "Evolution" does not seem to be working very good to keep them alive.Mechanical Bliss said:Stop saying it and actually demonstrate it for once.
Your a very poor loser Nathan, why don't you just admit it, the vast majority of evolutionary science is nonsense. Even evolutions themselves admit to that.Nathan Poe said:It leaves you with no excuse for your quote-mining, your non-sequitors, your willful ignorance, your fabricated "evidence," your lies, your complete and utter inabilty to stay on a topic, and your insufferable arrogance.
There's no need to project your own shortcomings onto myself. Start backing up your statements and addressing what people REALLY say instead of picking out sentence fragments and twisting them and maybe people will get off your case.JohnR7 said:Actually, your the one who needs to say something, rather than to spend all of your time attacking people.
You are the one who brings nothing to the discussion here, not me.
And this has WHAT to do with anything in this discussion? You are only demonstrating your further lack of understanding of the theory of evolution with the second sentence.JohnR7 said:Have you read the list of endangered or extinct species? "Evolution" does not seem to be working very good to keep them alive.
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