Reports

[GreenMunchkin]

Have just been looking at reports and seen some stuff I don't like, in terms of mods stacking the decks depending on their own view-points. I think this would be a good place to put any links for reports you feel are being done unjustly. To "conservative" Christians, and otherwise.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5769019-whosoever-will-may-come-liberal-wareagle-07-25-2007.html

Not comfortable with that one, at all.

 

[Sothron]

I also have noticed it. Apparently if you are a conservative Christian you are not allowed to post at all on the liberal Christian board. Should we return the favor in our WIKI Bible of WIKI Truth?

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I also have noticed it. Apparently if you are a conservative Christian you are not allowed to post at all on the liberal Christian board. Should we return the favor in our WIKI Bible of WIKI Truth?

Tempting, isn't it? Actually quite angry about it. We need mods to be fair, especially given how fractured everything is.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5763125-conservative-christians-invisible-trousers-07-24-2007.html

Have asked a question in How To about whether the one above is even allowed

 

[Sothron]

Tempting, isn't it? Actually quite angry about it. We need mods to be fair, especially given how fractured everything is.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5763125-conservative-christians-invisible-trousers-07-24-2007.html

Have asked a question in How To about whether the one above is even allowed

So apparently you can hide behind a hidden faith icon to make a barbed attack against conservative Christians and yet an innocent post like the first you linked at required 3 mods to act on it to silence the conservative. Check.

 

[tel0004]

This is a double edged sword. If they came to the conservative forum, then I hope there would be consensus among 3 or so conservative moderators, who would tell them that debating conservative beliefs is not allowed. This is our safe house, so we should be allowed to restrict debates by liberals, and I guess they should be allowed to restrict debating from conservatives, if thats what they want.

The last thing I would want is for forums to not be allowed to prohibit certain types of post.

Plus, even if 3 liberal mods team up on you, all they do is ask you to stop, so who really cares? (not that I'm suggesting that, but sometimes the truth must be heard)

 

[ReformedChapin]

How about this..

Edited your post


Good afternoon NewGuy101,

I edited the following post of yours:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ng101
hy is it morally acceptable for homos to pervert scriptures to excuse their sin?

The word "homos" has been changed to people. I know we've discussed this before...please tone down the language and remember the no flaming rule:

2.1 No Flaming

Members should not insult another member with a personal attack. Such behavior would include personally defamatory comments or inflammatory accusations, even if they are believed to be true. Categorically stating that somebody is destined for hell is also considered to be flaming.

This does not mean that criticizing another person's beliefs is the same as flaming. For instance, saying an idea is non-bliblical is not the same as saying that a member is non-Christian or follows non-biblical beliefs.

As a general rule, when in doubt, assume good faith on the part of the other poster.



If you have any questions please let me know.


Notice how he edited my post incorrectly...I said "why is it morally..."

 

[GreenMunchkin]

This is a double edged sword. If they came to the conservative forum, then I hope there would be consensus among 3 or so conservative moderators, who would tell them that debating conservative beliefs is not allowed. This is our safe house, so we should be allowed to restrict debates by liberals, and I guess they should be allowed to restrict debating from conservatives, if thats what they want.

The last thing I would want is for forums to not be allowed to prohibit certain types of post.

Plus, even if 3 liberal mods team up on you, all they do is ask you to stop, so who really cares? (not that I'm suggesting that, but sometimes the truth must be heard)

Debating is prohibited for non-conservative Christians... the problem with the first report is, the guy wasn't debating. He was responding to an accusation, and yet the mods belong to the forum so they're unable/unwilling to judge it fairly.

I honestly disagree about the modding, you know. If a lib breaks a rule here, I personally would want a mixture of people deciding whether it was a violation. In the name of fairness, that's the only way to do it. If it's a rule break, it's a rule break. If it isn't, it isn't. Ya know?

But, yes, if this is how it works, we need to alter our wiki

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Notice how he edited my post incorrectly...I said "why is it morally..."

Did you ask him about his mistake? That "w" completely alters the context. Tonks is a good guy, I think, so it probably was an innocent mistake...

 

[Sothron]

I don't see how his responding to an accusation and then leaving a link to this board (IIRC) is "debating" someone. It read more like a "I can't talk about it here but come over here if you want to talk about it" post to me.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Did you ask him about his mistake? That "w" completely alters the context. Tonks is a good guy, I think, so it probably was an innocent mistake...

He got mad at me for using the word homo

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I don't see how his responding to an accusation and then leaving a link to this board (IIRC) is "debating" someone. It read more like a "I can't talk about it here but come over here if you want to talk about it" post to me.

Protinus admitted early on there was no rule supporting action on the post. The sad face said it all. Imagine being sad you can't say someone's post is a violation?! That's speaks to serious bias and emotional involvement.

 

[Rochir]

I also have noticed it. Apparently if you are a conservative Christian you are not allowed to post at all on the liberal Christian board.

LOL; read our wiki - you are welcome to come visit and fellowship if you can behave yourselves!

However, like your forum, WWMC does NOT allow trolling and trollish posts WILL be reported!

 

[Sothron]

LOL; read our wiki - you are welcome to come visit and fellowship if you can behave yourselves!

However, like your forum, WWMC does NOT allow trolling and trollish posts WILL be reported!

How does leaving a link to another forum to debate something trolling? Is the sensitivity level that high? We have an ongoing massive thread here on this board that heavily features an aethist website. Why is it trolling to leave a link to another forum?

 

[tel0004]

I agree that maybe Homosexual would have been a better choice of words than homo, but if we are trying to be PC, why is Fundy allowed so much in WWMC and all forums, when Fundy is meant to be offensive when the word Fundamentalist would be a better choice.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I agree that maybe Homosexual would have been a better choice of words than homo, but if we are trying to be PC, why is Fundy allowed so much in WWMC and all forums, when Fundy is meant to be offensive when the word Fundamentalist would be a better choice.

I just think that homo is short for homosexual like fundie is short of fundamentalist.

 

[Melethiel]

Have just been looking at reports and seen some stuff I don't like, in terms of mods stacking the decks depending on their own view-points. I think this would be a good place to put any links for reports you feel are being done unjustly. To "conservative" Christians, and otherwise.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5769019-whosoever-will-may-come-liberal-wareagle-07-25-2007.html

Not comfortable with that one, at all.

To address your comments in the report - the mods assigned to the forum are the only ones who comment in the report and decide which action to take. This is the way it's always been done. For example, I expect only Theology mods to discuss Theology reports - not mods from any other forum.

 

[CyberPaladin]

When did homo become politically incorrect.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

To address your comments in the report - the mods assigned to the forum are the only ones who comment in the report and decide which action to take. This is the way it's always been done. For example, I expect only Theology mods to discuss Theology reports - not mods from any other forum.

There wasn't such a chasm between us all before. Those particular mods *looked* for a violation where there wasn't one because he was a conservative Christian in WWMC. That's unacceptable.

We need to be able to trust *all* our mods, regardless of their theological position.

 

[Voegelin]

... Fundy is meant to be offensive . . .

Also a sign of Fundiphobia. Caused by an underlying Christophobia.

Liberals try to make all opposition to their rule a psychological condition, we should do.

 

[SunMessenger]

I also have noticed it. Apparently if you are a conservative Christian you are not allowed to post at all on the liberal Christian board. Should we return the favor in our WIKI Bible of WIKI Truth?

You know the sad part of it all is that is what they expected us to do. Instead by keeping an open door policy here this place makes them look like the ones which do not want to attempt unity. Really unbelievable what has been going on here. God will not sleep believe me.