repeating history

[rainbowinthesky]

"At the time of the first advent of Christ to our world, the men who composed the Sandedrin exercised their authority in controlling men according to their will. Thus the souls whom Christ had given His life to free from the bondage of Satan were brought under bondage to him in another form." Testimonies to Ministers,361.​

This created a disgust of man's jurisdiction and a state of insubordination. The book of Acts hints at the existence of several independent groups and offshoots drawing disciples after them.​

Suddenly, amid the confusing cries, "Lo, here is Christ! Lo, there is Christ!" Jesus began His ministry. He understood that those who had been called to be the pillars and ground of the truth had become the representatives of Satan (D.A.36) and yet He made no sweeping denunciation of them but in humility and love He presented the truth to all. The majority had become confused because of the many voices. Only those who were hungering and thirsting for the truth were able to discern the precious truth and they received it, believed it, and acted upon it.​

Two calls were made to the professed Jewish church. One before the crucifixion and one after the crucifixion. Both calls were rejected and finally the bearers of the message were forced to turn to the Gentiles.​

Today many are leaving the SDA church for the same reasons that people left the Jewish church prior to the coming of Jesus. As we all know, there are many independent ministries and offshoots.​

Speaking of the leading men who compose the General Conference, it is writen:​

"Men have taken unfair advantage of those whom they supposed to be under their jurisdiction. They were determined to bring the individuals to their terms. THEY WOULD RULE OR RUIN. There will be no material change until a decided movement is made to bring in a different order of things." Testimonies to Ministers,360.​

No material change was made.​

We are repeating the history of ancient Israel.​

Again, "Amid the confusing cries, 'Lo, here is Christ! Lo, there is Christ!' will be borne a special testimony, a special message of truth appropriate for this time, which message is to be received, believed, and acted upon. It is the truth, not fanciful ideas, that is efficacious. Falsehoods will be urged upon the attention of God's people, but the truth is to stand clothed in its beautiful, pure garments." E.G. White, Bible Commentary, Vol.7,984.​

The truth that is efficacious and which is to stand in its beautiful, pure garment is this:​

"The MERITS of Christ's sacrifice are SUFFICIENT to present to the Father in our behalf." E.G. White, Steps to Christ,36. *emphasis supplied​

For "The MERITS of Christ blot out transgressions and clothe us with the robe of righteousness woven in the loom of Heaven." E.G. White, Evangelis,186, bottom of page.​

And "Christ's righteousness accomplishes everything." E.G. White, Faith & Works,27. It is "made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God." Testimonies to Ministers,92.​

Therefore "Present your case before God pleading the MERITS of the blood shed for you upon Calvary's cross." E.G. White, Faith & Works,106.​

This is our only plea.​

I appreciate the ministry of E.G. White for in these simple statements is presented in clear, distinct lines, the truth which is efficacious, the truth as it is in Jesus.​

This, I believe, is the special testimony, the special message of truth which is appropriate for this time, which truth is to be received, believed, and acted upon that we may be united to Christ and be led by the Spirit. Then we shall be organized from the Head and the Lord will finish His work upon the earth and cut it short in righteousness.​

This message was rejected in 1888.​

It is presented to us today for the last time.​

If the church rejects it again and persecutes the bearers of this message, her probation will close and the bearers of the message will be forced to turn to the world and the message will swell into the loud cry.​

God bless,​

sky​

 

[reddogs]

"At the time of the first advent of Christ to our world, the men who composed the Sandedrin exercised their authority in controlling men according to their will. Thus the souls whom Christ had given His life to free from the bondage of Satan were brought under bondage to him in another form." Testimonies to Ministers,361.​

This created a disgust of man's jurisdiction and a state of insubordination. The book of Acts hints at the existence of several independent groups and offshoots drawing disciples after them.​

Suddenly, amid the confusing cries, "Lo, here is Christ! Lo, there is Christ!" Jesus began His ministry. He understood that those who had been called to be the pillars and ground of the truth had become the representatives of Satan (D.A.36) and yet He made no sweeping denunciation of them but in humility and love He presented the truth to all. The majority had become confused because of the many voices. Only those who were hungering and thirsting for the truth were able to discern the precious truth and they received it, believed it, and acted upon it.​

Two calls were made to the professed Jewish church. One before the crucifixion and one after the crucifixion. Both calls were rejected and finally the bearers of the message were forced to turn to the Gentiles.​

Today many are leaving the SDA church for the same reasons that people left the Jewish church prior to the coming of Jesus. As we all know, there are many independent ministries and offshoots.​

Speaking of the leading men who compose the General Conference, it is writen:​

"Men have taken unfair advantage of those whom they supposed to be under their jurisdiction. They were determined to bring the individuals to their terms. THEY WOULD RULE OR RUIN. There will be no material change until a decided movement is made to bring in a different order of things." Testimonies to Ministers,360.​

No material change was made.​

We are repeating the history of ancient Israel.​

Again, "Amid the confusing cries, 'Lo, here is Christ! Lo, there is Christ!' will be borne a special testimony, a special message of truth appropriate for this time, which message is to be received, believed, and acted upon. It is the truth, not fanciful ideas, that is efficacious. Falsehoods will be urged upon the attention of God's people, but the truth is to stand clothed in its beautiful, pure garments." E.G. White, Bible Commentary, Vol.7,984.​

The truth that is efficacious and which is to stand in its beautiful, pure garment is this:​

"The MERITS of Christ's sacrifice are SUFFICIENT to present to the Father in our behalf." E.G. White, Steps to Christ,36. *emphasis supplied​

For "The MERITS of Christ blot out transgressions and clothe us with the robe of righteousness woven in the loom of Heaven." E.G. White, Evangelis,186, bottom of page.​

And "Christ's righteousness accomplishes everything." E.G. White, Faith & Works,27. It is "made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God." Testimonies to Ministers,92.​

Therefore "Present your case before God pleading the MERITS of the blood shed for you upon Calvary's cross." E.G. White, Faith & Works,106.​

This is our only plea.​

I appreciate the ministry of E.G. White for in these simple statements is presented in clear, distinct lines, the truth which is efficacious, the truth as it is in Jesus.​

This, I believe, is the special testimony, the special message of truth which is appropriate for this time, which truth is to be received, believed, and acted upon that we may be united to Christ and be led by the Spirit. Then we shall be organized from the Head and the Lord will finish His work upon the earth and cut it short in righteousness.​

This message was rejected in 1888.​

It is presented to us today for the last time.​

If the church rejects it again and persecutes the bearers of this message, her probation will close and the bearers of the message will be forced to turn to the world and the message will swell into the loud cry.​

God bless,​

sky​

So what do you see as the message of 1888?

 

[rainbowinthesky]

Again, "Amid the confusing cries, 'Lo, here is Christ! Lo, there is Christ!' will be borne a special testimony, a special message of truth appropriate for this time, which message is to be received, believed, and acted upon. It is the truth, not fanciful ideas, that is efficacious. Falsehoods will be urged upon the attention of God's people, but the truth is to stand clothed in its beautiful, pure garments." E.G. White, Bible Commentary, Vol.7,984.


The truth that is efficacious and which is to stand in its beautiful, pure garment is this: (1888 message)


"The MERITS of Christ's sacrifice are SUFFICIENT to present to the Father in our behalf." E.G. White, Steps to Christ,36. *emphasis supplied


For "The MERITS of Christ blot out transgressions and clothe us with the robe of righteousness woven in the loom of Heaven." E.G. White, Evangelis,186, bottom of page.


And "Christ's righteousness accomplishes everything." E.G. White, Faith & Works,27. It is "made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God." Testimonies to Ministers,92.


Therefore "Present your case before God pleading the MERITS of the blood shed for you upon Calvary's cross." E.G. White, Faith & Works,106.


This is our only plea.


I appreciate the ministry of E.G. White for in these simple statements is presented in clear, distinct lines, the truth which is efficacious, the truth as it is in Jesus.


This, I believe, is the special testimony, the special message of truth which is appropriate for this time, which truth is to be received, believed, and acted upon that we may be united to Christ and be led by the Spirit. Then we shall be organized from the Head and the Lord will finish His work upon the earth and cut it short in righteousness.


This message was rejected in 1888.


It is presented to us today for the last time.


If the church rejects it again and persecutes the bearers of this message, her probation will close and the bearers of the message will be forced to turn to the world and the message will swell into the loud cry.

sky​

 

[rainbowinthesky]

Here it is again in a nutshell:

"You want to be like little children, hanging upon the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour, and then you will be fortified. How? The angels of God will be around you as a wall of fire, the righteousness of Christ, which you claim, goes before you, and the glory of God is your rearward. God sanctify our tongues, our thoughts, our minds, that we may dwell upon heavenly themes, and that we may impart that knowledge to others." E.G. White, MS 9,1891.

The acceptance of this message brings the receivers into oneness with Christ and with the Father through the Holy Spirit. Thus they are organized from the Head and they are actuated by the Head and the Holy Spirit can work in them both to will and to do God's pleasure. (Col.1:13)

"Christ looked forward to the time when the Holy Spirit, as His representative, would come to do a wonderful work in and through His merits." Testimonies to Ministers, 402.

sky

 

[reddogs]

Here it is again in a nutshell:

"You want to be like little children, hanging upon the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour, and then you will be fortified. How? The angels of God will be around you as a wall of fire, the righteousness of Christ, which you claim, goes before you, and the glory of God is your rearward. God sanctify our tongues, our thoughts, our minds, that we may dwell upon heavenly themes, and that we may impart that knowledge to others." E.G. White, MS 9,1891.

The acceptance of this message brings the receivers into oneness with Christ and with the Father through the Holy Spirit. Thus they are organized from the Head and they are actuated by the Head and the Holy Spirit can work in them both to will and to do God's pleasure. (Col.1:13)

"Christ looked forward to the time when the Holy Spirit, as His representative, would come to do a wonderful work in and through His merits." Testimonies to Ministers, 402.

sky

So we are justified by faith, so how then do you see sanctification..?

 

[rainbowinthesky]

The message covers both.

 

[reddogs]

The message covers both.

Can you elaborate, as there was nothing on Sanctification from what I saw.

 

[rainbowinthesky]

You must have missed this:

And "Christ's righteousness accomplishes everything." E.G. White, Faith & Works,27. It is "made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God." Testimonies to Ministers,92.

sky

 

[reddogs]

You must have missed this:

And "Christ's righteousness accomplishes everything." E.G. White, Faith & Works,27. It is "made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God." Testimonies to Ministers,92.

sky

Thats just snippets put together, can you get the full text so we can see the context...thx

 

[rainbowinthesky]

Speaking of the 1888 message, Mrs. White wrote, "It invited the people to receive the righteousness of Christ which is made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God." Testimonies to Ministers,92.


Now if this is not the best definition of sanctification, what is?

I also quoted this:

"You want to be like little children, hanging upon the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour, and then you will be fortified. How? The angels of God will be around you as a wall of fire, the righteousness of Christ, which you claim, goes before you, and the glory of God is your rearward. God sanctify our tongues, our thoughts, our minds, that we may dwell upon heavenly themes, and that we may impart that knowledge to others." E.G. White, MS 9,1891.

This plainly says that as we hang our helpless souls upon the merits of Christ the angels are around us as a wall of fire, we are clothed with the righteousness of Christ and "righteousness is love and love is the light and the life of God," (Mount of Blessing,18) and the glory of God is our rearward. The Holy Spirit is the light of His glory.

"Looking unto Jesus and trusting in His merits we appropriate the blessings of light and peace and joy int the Holy Spirit." Testimonies, Vol.5,744.

Indwelt by the light of His glory, the light of His countenance, the Holy Spirit sanctifies our tongues, our thoughts, our minds that we may dwell upon heavenly themes and that we may impart that knowledge to others, the knowledge that "the merits of Christ's sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf," (S.C.36) in order to obtain the gift that cannot be excelled, the gift that brings all other blessings in its train, the gift of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead, Christ's Representative.

How's that?

sky

 

[reddogs]

Speaking of the 1888 message, Mrs. White wrote, "It invited the people to receive the righteousness of Christ which is made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God." Testimonies to Ministers,92.


Now if this is not the best definition of sanctification, what is?

I also quoted this:

"You want to be like little children, hanging upon the merits of a crucified and risen Saviour, and then you will be fortified. How? The angels of God will be around you as a wall of fire, the righteousness of Christ, which you claim, goes before you, and the glory of God is your rearward. God sanctify our tongues, our thoughts, our minds, that we may dwell upon heavenly themes, and that we may impart that knowledge to others." E.G. White, MS 9,1891.

This plainly says that as we hang our helpless souls upon the merits of Christ the angels are around us as a wall of fire, we are clothed with the righteousness of Christ and "righteousness is love and love is the light and the life of God," (Mount of Blessing,18) and the glory of God is our rearward. The Holy Spirit is the light of His glory.

"Looking unto Jesus and trusting in His merits we appropriate the blessings of light and peace and joy int the Holy Spirit." Testimonies, Vol.5,744.

Indwelt by the light of His glory, the light of His countenance, the Holy Spirit sanctifies our tongues, our thoughts, our minds that we may dwell upon heavenly themes and that we may impart that knowledge to others, the knowledge that "the merits of Christ's sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf," (S.C.36) in order to obtain the gift that cannot be excelled, the gift that brings all other blessings in its train, the gift of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead, Christ's Representative.

How's that?

sky

The issue is many people just want to use the 1888 message as a license to sin and indulge in any passion and desire, and there is no real love, joy or self-control in what they do, or true fruit of the Holy Spirit. I dont think that was the 1888 message or is what was meant by her at any level...But instead this mind frame of these people shows something else which scripture clearly identifies...

Life by the Spirit

13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.