Remove him from the ballot!!!!

[Goonie]

RFK Jr sues North Carolina elections board to remove his name from ballot

Former candidate’s presence on ballots could help Harris at the expense of Trump, especially in battleground states

www.theguardian.com

Seriously do, but charge him the cost of printed ballots.

 

[AlexB23]

RFK Jr sues North Carolina elections board to remove his name from ballot

Former candidate’s presence on ballots could help Harris at the expense of Trump, especially in battleground states

www.theguardian.com

Seriously do, but charge him the cost of printed ballots.

Agreed. How much does printing ballots, for a state of 10 million cost, assuming half the population votes?

One would need to know how much it costs to print one sheet of paper. Let's use $0.10-0.17 as an estimate (excluding shipping and taxes), so an average of $0.14/ballot. Multiply $0.14/ballot * 1 ballot/1 person * 5 million people, and one gets $700,000 as an answer.

So, the government should charge RFK Jr. roughly $700,000 for reprinting the ballots.

Sources:

https://www.votersunite.org/info/PaperBallotPrintingCosts.pdf

$0.14/unit * 1 unit/1 person * 5 million people - Wolfram|Alpha

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of people—spanning all professions and education levels.

www.wolframalpha.com

 

[Goonie]

Agreed. How much does printing ballots, for a state of 10 million cost, assuming half the population votes?

One would need to know how much it costs to print one sheet of paper. Let's use $0.10-0.17 as an estimate (excluding shipping and taxes), so an average of $0.14/ballot. Multiply $0.14/ballot * 1 ballot/1 person * 5 million people, and one gets $700,000 as an answer.

So, the government should charge RFK Jr. roughly $700,000 for reprinting the ballots.

Sources:

https://www.votersunite.org/info/PaperBallotPrintingCosts.pdf

$0.14/unit * 1 unit/1 person * 5 million people - Wolfram|Alpha

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of people—spanning all professions and education levels.

www.wolframalpha.com

Exactly, over two months is not super short notice. And importantly what does the contract and law say?

I know states have deadlines on candidates announcing, but deadlines on printing the ballots? He might contractually owe nothing.

 

[AlexB23]

Exactly, over two months is not super short notice. And importantly what does the contract and law say?

I know states have deadlines on candidates announcing, but deadlines on printing the ballots? He might contractually owe nothing.

Is this state, or federal law? Back in July, I have downloaded all of the US Federal law onto my computer and a bunch of casebooks totaling nearly a gigabyte, and can ask the artificial intelligence software on my computer. Can you give me a good prompt, so I can plug this one in, or do you think the prompt below is sufficient?

Potential prompt: Is it legal for a presidential candidate who has dropped out of a race, to sue a state elections board for not removing his/her name off of the printed ballots given a short notice of two months before the election?

 

[Goonie]

Is this state, or federal law? Back in July, I have downloaded all of the US Federal law onto my computer and a bunch of casebooks totaling nearly a gigabyte, and can ask the artificial intelligence software on my computer. Can you give me a good prompt, so I can plug this one in, or do you think the prompt below is sufficient?

Potential prompt: Is it legal for a presidential candidate who has dropped out of a race, to sue a state elections board for not removing his/her name off of the printed ballots given a short notice of two months before the election?

Sorry, UK here, but from what I'm aware The Democratic change occurred within the legal state requirements. Kennedy is close, and in individual states it's up to state court, not federal.

 

[AlexB23]

Sorry, UK here, but from what I'm aware The Democratic change occurred within the legal state requirements. Kennedy is close, and in individual states it's up to state court, not federal.

Ahh, if only the US had a parliamentary system such as the UK's, but that is for another thread. Also darn, I did not install the state laws, cos that means I would have to go to every state's website, and download even more PDFs, plus I do not know if the AI would ever get confused and accidentally cite two or more laws together from two or more different states.

Maybe, I could give it a try regardless. Expect an answer in an hour or so, and I may have to drop offline or off this conversation for an hour to give my computer as much available RAM as possible for answering the prompt.

 

[Goonie]

Ahh, if only the US had a parliamentary system such as the UK's, but that is for another thread. Also darn, I did not install the state laws, cos that means I would have to go to every state's website, and download even more PDFs, plus I do not know if the AI would ever get confused and accidentally cite two or more laws together from two or more different states.

Maybe, I could give it a try regardless. Expect an answer in an hour or so, and I may have to drop offline or off this conversation for an hour to give my computer as much available RAM as possible for answering the prompt.

Elections including federal are governed by state law, not federal. So you have the jim crow ban on felony voting in Florida and the south still effectively in force.

 

[AlexB23]

Elections including federal are governed by state law, not federal. So you have the jim crow ban on felony voting in Florida and the south still effectively in force.

Yep, that is basically what the machine said. Elections are basically run by state laws. Nothing we can do about that, unless we get a wider reform on elections, so that every state has standardized election laws that apply to all 50 states.

 

[iluvatar5150]

whoops. lol.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Exactly, over two months is not super short notice. And importantly what does the contract and law say?

I know states have deadlines on candidates announcing, but deadlines on printing the ballots? He might contractually owe nothing.

North Carolina starts mailing out requested absentee ballots 60 days before the election. That occurs later this week. Kennedy will remain on the ballot.

 

[loveofourlord]

whoops. lol.

Trump seems to have a lot of trouble with these things, yeah it's RFk but he's trying to help trump. Just recenltly trump messed up a court order request...wich he does every time.

 

[JosephZ]

RFK Jr. wins appeals to get off the ballot in Michigan and North Carolina

Voting season was supposed to kick off on Friday in North Carolina, until a state court intervened over Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s place on the ballot.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. won two appeals Friday as he seeks to have his name removed from state ballots, delaying the expected first mailing of absentee ballots of the 2024 elections.

In North Carolina, an appeals court said Kennedy should be removed from the ballot, a ruling that would require counties to reprint ballots which were expected to be mailed beginning Friday. It's unclear if that ruling, which reverses a lower court's denial Thursday, will be appealed. But it will at least temporarily delay the distribution of mail ballots.

In Michigan, an appeals court agreed to remove Kennedy from the ballot as well, disagreeing with Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, that it was too late to remove him. Benson plans to appeal immediately, said Angela Benander, a spokesman for the secretary, as military and overseas ballots must go out soon.

The North Carolina State Board of Elections ordered election officials in an email late Friday morning not to mail ballots out.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

RFK Jr sues North Carolina elections board to remove his name from ballot

Former candidate’s presence on ballots could help Harris at the expense of Trump, especially in battleground states

www.theguardian.com

Seriously do, but charge him the cost of printed ballots.

I very clearly remember him specifically saying he wasn't dropping from the race, just suspending his campaign so he could remain on the ballot. Apparently that is biting him in the butt.

 

[essentialsaltes]

RFK Jr. wins appeals to get off the ballot in Michigan

Supreme Court denies RFK Jr.’s request to be taken off Michigan, Wisconsin ballots ​

In two brief orders, the Supreme Court rejected Kennedy’s separate emergency requests, which asserted forcibly keeping his name on the ballot compelled his speech in violation of the First Amendment.

 

[stevil]

RFK Jr is playing political games, he is trying very hard to rig the system in Trump's favour.

There are some places where he is going to court to get his name removed from the ballot, and other places where he is going to court to keep his name on the ballot.

Supreme Court rejects RFK Jr. plea to be removed from ballot in two swing states

Former independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now allied with Republican nominee Donald Trump and has sought to take his name off the ballot in some states.

www.nbcnews.com

Supreme Court rejects RFK Jr. plea to be removed from ballot in two swing states​

Kennedy has endorsed Trump and is seeking to have his name dropped from the ballots in states where it could be a boost to his new ally.

Supreme Court rejects push to remove Robert F. Kennedy Jr. from ballot in two swing states

The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected an emergency appeal to remove Robert F. Kennedy Jr. from the presidential ballot in two battleground states.

www.nbcnewyork.com

Supreme Court rejects push to remove Robert F. Kennedy Jr. from ballot in two swing states​

Kennedy wanted to get off the ballot in Wisconsin and Michigan after dropping his independent bid and endorsing Republican Donald Trump in the tight contest. He argued that keeping him on violated his First Amendment rights.

In my view, people should act with integrity. If they aren't running for office then they ought to seek their name to be removed from all ballots, not just a select view. This shenanigans is an attempt to rig the system and is pretty dispicable.