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Remarriage Error
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InTheFlame,
My one and only motive in this life is to be right in God's eyes. I trust that He will do whatever it takes to make sure that I do because He promised me the the work He started He will finish. I think that the reason I was feeling that my husband in the adulterous marriage was not the one I wanted because in my spirit God was trying to tell me that he actually wasn't because I already had a husband that He gave me. I had a lot of excuses, but no matter what I just couldn't shake these feelings that something was wrong. I have felt that way for 6 years. You don't know how many letters I wrote my first husband and didn't give him, how many phone calls and things I wanted to say and didn't, how many times I was the one who encouraged him to make his current marriage work because as much as it hurt I thought that was what God wanted. I have always felt a strong connection to him and Him to me that neither of us could understand. Now I know it was because the oneness God gave us nothing could separate. We have been doing all these years what we thought was right against what we felt in our hearts and that it all the devil wanted us to do. I see you said that this revelation was convenient. Well let me explain to you why it's not. I have been searching for these truths for 6 years. The so called remarriage just made me search harder and pray harder because at the time I just didn't want to make the same mistakes I had made in my first marriage. I didn't want to sin before God by getting a divorce again, but I couldn't shake what I now know was conviction. God took me back furthur that I expected him to because I always thought my divorce was justified even though I felt guilty and regretful. It just seemed that the love I felt for my first husband that even after 6 years I would never find so I settled and married someone that I knew really loved me. Now I hear God saying the kind of love you had before is one that only I can give just 1 time. You know the saying there is somebody for everybody? That means 1 person for 1 person. Just because we "denounced" our vows does not mean that God did. But tell me how could I "denounce" a vow until death without dying? Please read Malachi 2:13-17 so you see how God feels about a man breaking the covenant between Him and the wife of his youth. I was 17 and my husband was 18 when we married. I was a virgin. I am the wife of his youth. God put us together long before man put us lawfully together. I must fulfill God's plan for my life and now help others to see the truth just as He meant it to be. My heart aches to know that just as I there are people who believe that God is the kind of God who takes back His word. If He said it He meant it and will judge us accordingly if we disobey. I am not here for anyone to justify things for me. God already has. I am just here because it is now my responsibility to keep my brothers and sisters from making the same mistakes I have. God has given no one the authority to remarry. There is no such thing. It is called adultery not remarried. My husband is not remarried. He is living the life of an adulterer. God said so.
My one and only motive in this life is to be right in God's eyes. I trust that He will do whatever it takes to make sure that I do because He promised me the the work He started He will finish. I think that the reason I was feeling that my husband in the adulterous marriage was not the one I wanted because in my spirit God was trying to tell me that he actually wasn't because I already had a husband that He gave me. I had a lot of excuses, but no matter what I just couldn't shake these feelings that something was wrong. I have felt that way for 6 years. You don't know how many letters I wrote my first husband and didn't give him, how many phone calls and things I wanted to say and didn't, how many times I was the one who encouraged him to make his current marriage work because as much as it hurt I thought that was what God wanted. I have always felt a strong connection to him and Him to me that neither of us could understand. Now I know it was because the oneness God gave us nothing could separate. We have been doing all these years what we thought was right against what we felt in our hearts and that it all the devil wanted us to do. I see you said that this revelation was convenient. Well let me explain to you why it's not. I have been searching for these truths for 6 years. The so called remarriage just made me search harder and pray harder because at the time I just didn't want to make the same mistakes I had made in my first marriage. I didn't want to sin before God by getting a divorce again, but I couldn't shake what I now know was conviction. God took me back furthur that I expected him to because I always thought my divorce was justified even though I felt guilty and regretful. It just seemed that the love I felt for my first husband that even after 6 years I would never find so I settled and married someone that I knew really loved me. Now I hear God saying the kind of love you had before is one that only I can give just 1 time. You know the saying there is somebody for everybody? That means 1 person for 1 person. Just because we "denounced" our vows does not mean that God did. But tell me how could I "denounce" a vow until death without dying? Please read Malachi 2:13-17 so you see how God feels about a man breaking the covenant between Him and the wife of his youth. I was 17 and my husband was 18 when we married. I was a virgin. I am the wife of his youth. God put us together long before man put us lawfully together. I must fulfill God's plan for my life and now help others to see the truth just as He meant it to be. My heart aches to know that just as I there are people who believe that God is the kind of God who takes back His word. If He said it He meant it and will judge us accordingly if we disobey. I am not here for anyone to justify things for me. God already has. I am just here because it is now my responsibility to keep my brothers and sisters from making the same mistakes I have. God has given no one the authority to remarry. There is no such thing. It is called adultery not remarried. My husband is not remarried. He is living the life of an adulterer. God said so.
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Sorry gigat, your theology has some holes in it.
If you're finding justification for ending your husband's current marriage and persuing him again through Deuteronomy - You'd better read ALL of Deuteronomy first.
Deuteronomy 24:3-4 - And if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and send her from his house, or he dies, then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed ot remarry her again after she has been defiled. That would be destestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.
To break that down for you, it would be destestable in God's eyes for you to remarry your husband because he's been defiled by the marriage after yours. So how can God be telling you to do this?
Things I'd also like to point out here:
1) Even though there is remarriage here, these unions are still recognized in this scripture as being real, bonafide marriages. No where does God put "marriage" (when referring to the remarriages) in quotations to suggest that it's a phony deal.
2) There's no denying that the divorce of the first marriage isn't phony either. In Deut 24:1, you can read that the first divorce occurs because the wife becomes displeasing to the husband. Not a great reason for a divorce is it? But it's still written and acknowledged as divorce in the Scriptures.
And might I add - this is all from Jewish Law which Jesus fulfilled. So you're not subject to it any longer. If you want to keep one part, you've got to keep it all and perfectly. But I thought I'd give you the verse so that, even within the context of the Law, you can see you're not Biblically supported.
With all that aside, I hope God willl help to come to grips with this situation. It seems like you are grappling with reality and the gravity of your sin.
If you're finding justification for ending your husband's current marriage and persuing him again through Deuteronomy - You'd better read ALL of Deuteronomy first.
Deuteronomy 24:3-4 - And if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and send her from his house, or he dies, then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed ot remarry her again after she has been defiled. That would be destestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance.
To break that down for you, it would be destestable in God's eyes for you to remarry your husband because he's been defiled by the marriage after yours. So how can God be telling you to do this?
Things I'd also like to point out here:
1) Even though there is remarriage here, these unions are still recognized in this scripture as being real, bonafide marriages. No where does God put "marriage" (when referring to the remarriages) in quotations to suggest that it's a phony deal.
2) There's no denying that the divorce of the first marriage isn't phony either. In Deut 24:1, you can read that the first divorce occurs because the wife becomes displeasing to the husband. Not a great reason for a divorce is it? But it's still written and acknowledged as divorce in the Scriptures.
And might I add - this is all from Jewish Law which Jesus fulfilled. So you're not subject to it any longer. If you want to keep one part, you've got to keep it all and perfectly. But I thought I'd give you the verse so that, even within the context of the Law, you can see you're not Biblically supported.
With all that aside, I hope God willl help to come to grips with this situation. It seems like you are grappling with reality and the gravity of your sin.
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OK, I decided to go through your statements and check them against the bible... here we go...
Now you said in another post:
Have you been talking to anyone apart from us about your situation?
Untrue. Deut. 24:3-4 is a good example - thanks GirlieGirlGIGATT247 said:
Now the word translated to 'fornication' there is 'pornea'. It's quite a wide term, used for all sorts of outside-of-marriage sexual acts, including sex with one's father's wife[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica] (1 Cor 5:1). [/font]It's more than simply pre-marital sex.[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica][/font]GIGATT247 said:
This is true. But are we talking about the laws regarding divorce, or the laws regarding what can be done after divorce? There is a difference there.GIGATT247 said:
Now you said in another post:
Nope, that's not what it says at all. Have a look -GIGATT247 said:
This says a woman must remain single or go back to her husband. It does not deal with what happens if one or both people remarry.
God frequently forgives us for our sins and yet still allows the material consequences of our sin to come to us. If we commit murder, repent and are forgiven by God, he doesn't save us from a jail term.GIGATT247 said:
Sadly, it is possible for us to break our vows. All of our promises - no matter how minor - are vows before God. Whenever we break our word and do something we said we wouldn't, or don't do something we said we would, we do the same thing on a different scale. Now I'm not saying that marriage is like saying I'll go down to the store in an hour - but the principle IS the same.GIGATT247 said:
This is a very good point. Hopefully you can help others avoid getting into the same situation in the first place.GIGATT247 said:
Can you support that bit in bold, biblically? Or is it your own personal belief?GIGATT247 said:
Be careful. The laws of our countries declare that a subsequent marriage entered into while the original still exists, is void. This is true. So I can see where you get the idea that your current marriage vows are meaningless. But you made a promise to this man, and your ex-husband made a promise to his wife. Where in scripture can you show me a reference saying that the earlier marriage vow is the one that carries most weight? We have only OT as a guideline saying that a man shouldn't remarry a woman he's divorced, who's been in another relationship. I don't see that Jesus said anything to refute this.GIGATT247 said:
Have you been talking to anyone apart from us about your situation?
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Not true, exactly. You may have pushed him away, but he didn't exactly stay and fight for his marriage, did he? No, he clearly departed and made a new life for himself. Besides, Scripture teaches us that a man is the head of his home. If God wanted you back with your former husband, why didn't He put the reunion on his heart to initiate it?GIGATT247 said:
For six years, you've been beating yourself up with regret and guilt, instead of accepting the forgiveness God is offering you. I feel bad for you because I know you're suffering. I know you wish you could turn back the clock. But I think your pain is driving you to misuse Scripture, either taking certain verses out of context to prove a point, or ignoring the clear principles spelled out in other verses. In the process, you're hurting both your husband and your former husband, neither of whom deserves to have his life torn apart because you made a mistake six years ago. I truly hope you find peace, but I think that will only come by accepting where God has placed you now, with a new husband to love.
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edited: previous post too harsh. i am just too sad for this.... i guess i don't get it.. in the Bible, love is not an emotion. it is a decision. and marriage is not based on emotion. it is based on commitment. and love, in 1 cor 13 is spelt out for us.. in actions.. not feelings.. i tried to point this out in my original posting.. how can one practice being a wife, and practice loving her husband to the letter of the law (the bible) if one is not living w/him?? i mean, there is no way to learn patience w/out practice, self-discipline w/out practice, enduarance, kindness, etc etc etc.. it just can't happen... i am so tired. i know i am sounding like i am being harsh.. which i sure i am being..i am just so confused.. satan really really got into your head.. for you to be married to your current husband, and your previous husband to be married to another woman, & here you are, thinking you are supposed to be back w/your first husband, when it is obvious no no no from God, because he is remarried!! and the scriptures are clear, for him to come back to you is wrong wrong wrong! don't let satan confuse you! God needs you to work on this marriage!! learn from your mistakes in the previous marriage! Not get mixed feelings, and let yourself be dragged down w/guilt and ideals that you should be getting first husband back! it's done. over with. divorce is divorce--especially now that you both are married to other people! be happy w/what you have!
this is what i put in the other thread you started, gigat. your response to me was back it up w/ scriptures...
i looked at this, and realized the overall issue here is submission. you are bucking it hard. you found it hard to submit to your current husband. you decided not to love him--YOU show me where it is okay in the scriptures to make a decision to leave your husband if YOU are not satisfied w/him?? intheflame and girlie girl have done an excellent job of showing you the scriptures that state that he can leave you if he is dissatisfied,--which is what Jesus was talking to them about when explained that God let Moses make that law because the people were hard-hearted--but not vice versa here.
on submitting to governing authorities and the laws in this land:
1 peter 2:13-17 kjv
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evil doers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke (cloak) of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
in the eyes of the governing officials, the court, of your country, you are divorced from your first husband. this is where God's grace comes in. you are not the only one who became a Christian, looked at the scriptures, and thought "oh no!! i sinned really big! i should never have divorced my husband! i know i thought that. i wore my friends out! i was so eaten w/guilt and remorse. i was so ashamed. i would have thought, then and there, that i was supposed to get back w/my husband, too--IF HE HAD NOT HAVE BEEN MARRIED WHEN I BECAME A CHRISTIAN!! & the timing?? yes, i felt guilty. yes i felt ashamed.. but i knew the worse worse sin would have been to try and get back with him!
you married another man. your biggest sin here, is to deny that God, not man, but God gave you the responsibility to love this 2nd man. the law of the land is that you are no longer married to your first husband. the law of the land is that you are now married to your current husband. the law of God says not only do you follow the law of the land, but you up and follow God's law pertaining to your current husband!
Real love towards your first husband is being happy for him. he is a Christian now, Amen!! he is following God now. Amen! he has a new wife! Amen! right now? you are clearly breaking a commandment even:
Exodus 21:17 thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thry neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor ANYTHING THAT IS THY NEIGHBOR'S
he gave you the job of getting on with your life. learning from mistakes in previous marriage and going on.. but you won't.. how do you think God feels about what you are doing, to so haphazardly throw your current husband away w/God's laws as an excuse? this kind of example is exactly what Jesus came back to challenge and change!! how the Pharisees were using the laws, to excuse their sins!! Jesus came to seek and save the lost.. the people knew the law. the pharisees knew the law.. and they were twisting it and bending it to their own means.
i hate being so strong.. intheflame has it right. you are just coming to term w/your sin... please please please don't get yourself into more sin, to try and take away the hurt you feel. you are starting to leave a destructive path, because you are not just talking about you and your first husband here.. what you want to do involves everyone around you: not just your family, both of your husband's families, but that poor woman's family as well... how is this teaching them God?? how is this teaching them how loving and graceful God is with our sins??
i also worry about how strong i am being, because from the get-go, God has had to really work w/me on my faith on this one. i have no faith you will heed what we are saying. and i need to have at least a little. i have no faith that you want to help and love the people in your world outside this pc.
and you know what?? lol! all of this, we are trying to help you... i really think that you throwing yourself at your first husband's feet will turn out incredibly embarrassing to you! and to him! i really don't believe that he sees the scriptures as you do.. he may see he made a mistake in God's eyes--by getting a divorce. he may see he did wrong--by getting a divorce. but i bet he knows God forgives him, is giving him a new lease on life, and is challenging him to have fun, and carry on w/his current wife!!
this is what i put in the other thread you started, gigat. your response to me was back it up w/ scriptures...
i looked at this, and realized the overall issue here is submission. you are bucking it hard. you found it hard to submit to your current husband. you decided not to love him--YOU show me where it is okay in the scriptures to make a decision to leave your husband if YOU are not satisfied w/him?? intheflame and girlie girl have done an excellent job of showing you the scriptures that state that he can leave you if he is dissatisfied,--which is what Jesus was talking to them about when explained that God let Moses make that law because the people were hard-hearted--but not vice versa here.
on submitting to governing authorities and the laws in this land:
1 peter 2:13-17 kjv
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evil doers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke (cloak) of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
in the eyes of the governing officials, the court, of your country, you are divorced from your first husband. this is where God's grace comes in. you are not the only one who became a Christian, looked at the scriptures, and thought "oh no!! i sinned really big! i should never have divorced my husband! i know i thought that. i wore my friends out! i was so eaten w/guilt and remorse. i was so ashamed. i would have thought, then and there, that i was supposed to get back w/my husband, too--IF HE HAD NOT HAVE BEEN MARRIED WHEN I BECAME A CHRISTIAN!! & the timing?? yes, i felt guilty. yes i felt ashamed.. but i knew the worse worse sin would have been to try and get back with him!
you married another man. your biggest sin here, is to deny that God, not man, but God gave you the responsibility to love this 2nd man. the law of the land is that you are no longer married to your first husband. the law of the land is that you are now married to your current husband. the law of God says not only do you follow the law of the land, but you up and follow God's law pertaining to your current husband!
Real love towards your first husband is being happy for him. he is a Christian now, Amen!! he is following God now. Amen! he has a new wife! Amen! right now? you are clearly breaking a commandment even:
Exodus 21:17 thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thry neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor ANYTHING THAT IS THY NEIGHBOR'S
he gave you the job of getting on with your life. learning from mistakes in previous marriage and going on.. but you won't.. how do you think God feels about what you are doing, to so haphazardly throw your current husband away w/God's laws as an excuse? this kind of example is exactly what Jesus came back to challenge and change!! how the Pharisees were using the laws, to excuse their sins!! Jesus came to seek and save the lost.. the people knew the law. the pharisees knew the law.. and they were twisting it and bending it to their own means.
i hate being so strong.. intheflame has it right. you are just coming to term w/your sin... please please please don't get yourself into more sin, to try and take away the hurt you feel. you are starting to leave a destructive path, because you are not just talking about you and your first husband here.. what you want to do involves everyone around you: not just your family, both of your husband's families, but that poor woman's family as well... how is this teaching them God?? how is this teaching them how loving and graceful God is with our sins??
i also worry about how strong i am being, because from the get-go, God has had to really work w/me on my faith on this one. i have no faith you will heed what we are saying. and i need to have at least a little. i have no faith that you want to help and love the people in your world outside this pc.
and you know what?? lol! all of this, we are trying to help you... i really think that you throwing yourself at your first husband's feet will turn out incredibly embarrassing to you! and to him! i really don't believe that he sees the scriptures as you do.. he may see he made a mistake in God's eyes--by getting a divorce. he may see he did wrong--by getting a divorce. but i bet he knows God forgives him, is giving him a new lease on life, and is challenging him to have fun, and carry on w/his current wife!!
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Marriage is an agreement between two people and God which makes the two people one in marriage. It is wise to recognize such a creation by God cannot be nullified by people, the Bible says as much plain as day.
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Good point on "Do not covet", Isaiah.
It must be excrutiating to see your husband happily (or not) married to another woman. I can see how this would very very difficult for you.
ETA: You're currently remarried too? I just read your other post about being married for 6 months and being dissatisfied. I was a bit confused, but now the full picture is coming into focus. I don't want to judge here, but it sounds like you're vulnerable right now. The grass is always greener... Please don't make a move that will destroy 2 marriages at once.
It must be excrutiating to see your husband happily (or not) married to another woman. I can see how this would very very difficult for you.
ETA: You're currently remarried too? I just read your other post about being married for 6 months and being dissatisfied. I was a bit confused, but now the full picture is coming into focus. I don't want to judge here, but it sounds like you're vulnerable right now. The grass is always greener... Please don't make a move that will destroy 2 marriages at once.
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I wasn't ever going to come back to Christian Forum again because I was embarrassed and ashamed. God led me back here to thank all of you for your posts and prayers. Being a christian is good, but it is even better to be a christian who is filled with the Holy Ghost because then we can be guided into all truth. As I began to ask God to fill me with the Holy Ghost so that I would not be deceived He showed me the truth. The enemy knew that if he could make me believe that my marriage was a sin before God then he could take it from me. Thank God for His grace and His mercy and for all of you who let the Spirit guide you into all truth and for that same Spirit working through you to get to me. I am now moving into my destiny with new found faith. The enemy was trying to make me live in the guilt of my past, but like the prodigal son I came to myself. I am forgiven, I am guilt free, I am loved and I know it. I can not change the circumstances of my past, but I can look forward to a better future. Thank you all so much!
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GIGATT - I'm glad you came back to update us *hug* Hopefully you'll stick around It sounds as though God has given you peace on this .... that's great to hear - praise Him!
It sounds as though God has given you peace on this .... that's great to hear - praise Him!
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Awesome. I totally respect you for being so honest and humble. Humble people are very strong - in the Lord.
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Oh, Gigatt, thank you for your sweet, teachable spirit and for setting such an example for me to live up to! I truly honor your attitude.GIGATT247 said:
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You have said that you asked your husband for a divorce; he did not ask you for one. Therefore your former husband granted your request for that divorce therefore the divorce which you now see as sin, is not sin at all because you and your former husband came to a mutual agreement to divorce one another. When the wedding vows are made we might say "What God has joined together, let not man put asunder" but you did put your marriage asunder by asking him for a divorce. So, the sin or the burden of the same is on you. You can only ask for forgiveness and give forgiveness to your ex now. He has taken the vows that you released him from and has started anew with a new wife and now he must honour these same vows that you released him from with his new wife. I believe that God does honour this marriage because you are the one that released your former husband. Now, I understand that you realize that you made a big mistake and that you want him back but you would be committing adultery if you try and break up his current marriage by physical means or by spiritual intervention. God is not the author of confusion and this is confusion. When you say you wanted a divorce and now 6years later you desire to be reconciled. Maybe you should reconcile yourself to be at peace with the way things are.
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Have you read all the posts? Please read them all before you give advice because you would have saw that I came to these conclusions already but let me key you in on a few extra things. When I decided to divorce my ex husband he was living with another woman and he married her the same week after our divorce was final. I had a right to divorce him. I was just under the misconception that adultery was not a reason to divorce. He did not want the divorce, but he didn't want to fix our marraige. He wanted to stay with her but remain married to me. He said when I divorced him he didn't have a reason to tell her he cuoldn't marry her anymore so that's why he did. Recalling all of this just reinforces the fact that God delivered me from that relationship. My ex husband had many adulterous relationships that I continued to find out about even after we were divorced. Just for a minute I thought that I was supposed to keep forgiving him and that I had no right to divorce him. Now I know that all God wanted me to do was to forgive him. I did that long ago. So you see I didn't let my gift get away, he let his gift get away.
Have you read all the posts? Please read them all before you give advice because you would have saw that I came to these conclusions already but let me key you in on a few extra things. When I decided to divorce my ex husband he was living with another woman and he married her the same week after our divorce was final. I had a right to divorce him. I was just under the misconception that adultery was not a reason to divorce. He did not want the divorce, but he didn't want to fix our marraige. He wanted to stay with her but remain married to me. He said when I divorced him he didn't have a reason to tell her he cuoldn't marry her anymore so that's why he did. Recalling all of this just reinforces the fact that God delivered me from that relationship. My ex husband had many adulterous relationships that I continued to find out about even after we were divorced. Just for a minute I thought that I was supposed to keep forgiving him and that I had no right to divorce him. Now I know that all God wanted me to do was to forgive him. I did that long ago. So you see I didn't let my gift get away, he let his gift get away.
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gigat:
i want to say that i am sorry i had not seen your post earlier than today (out of town for 5 days) or i would have posted to this sooner:
i am so grateful for your post. i am so relieved... i went thru the same dilemma you were going thru, my husband did when he first became a Christian--we have about 8 or more single friends, who became Christians, saw their sins,and really had to study out if they were meant to be single, if they had to remarry their exes, if they were allowed to get married again, etc etc etc...
all of us wanted to be right w/God. all of us wanted to please him. i can't and never could fault you for seeking your answers out... i am so glad you didn't see the scriptures, read the posts, then get on the board and say: "i'm gonna do what i wanna do."...
sigh. don't get me wrong... we all do that to some extent.. and we work hard to please God, but sometimes our selves just keep getting in the way...
i am so grateful, and relieved, i can't tell you how much, that you are not one of the more selfish people on this forum..
i can only learn from you.. and i am grateful to do so...
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working on that not being so selfish part...
i want to say that i am sorry i had not seen your post earlier than today (out of town for 5 days) or i would have posted to this sooner:
i am so grateful for your post. i am so relieved... i went thru the same dilemma you were going thru, my husband did when he first became a Christian--we have about 8 or more single friends, who became Christians, saw their sins,and really had to study out if they were meant to be single, if they had to remarry their exes, if they were allowed to get married again, etc etc etc...
all of us wanted to be right w/God. all of us wanted to please him. i can't and never could fault you for seeking your answers out... i am so glad you didn't see the scriptures, read the posts, then get on the board and say: "i'm gonna do what i wanna do."...
sigh. don't get me wrong... we all do that to some extent.. and we work hard to please God, but sometimes our selves just keep getting in the way...
i am so grateful, and relieved, i can't tell you how much, that you are not one of the more selfish people on this forum..
i can only learn from you.. and i am grateful to do so...
sign me:
working on that not being so selfish part...
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Is the KJV really the original translation? I have been studying Greek and Greek bibles. The word for put away is Apoulo and the Greek word for divorce is ApostasionGIGATT247 said:
There is the word Apostasion, properly translated divorce" or "divorcement. From the context it is abundantly clear that apostasion had to do with the legal aspect of ending a marriage, which included providing actual papers that would release the spouse.
Apostasion, properly translated divorce" or "divorcement. [Grk. 647] apostasion (ap-os-tas'-ee-on)
neuter of a (presumed) adjective from a derivative of 868; properly, something separative, i.e. (specially) divorce:--(writing of) divorcement (Strong).
The other pertinent word found is, APOLUO. Out of all the times the word is used in the KJV only in one instance is it translated as divorced, and that is in Matt 5:32. The ASV, YLT, Darby and others consistently translate APOLUO as put away rather than divorce in these passages.
Now my question is, do they mean the same. I have read alot about it and they don't seem to mean the same thing. Men put away their wives in the OT. They did not divorce them. God did not like this kind of abuse. The woman was of course committing adultery if she remarried since she was still married. Men wanted to get their wives back for future use. Because of the hardness of their hearts, they were commaned to give her a writing of divorcement AND send her away, not just send her away as was done in the OT. I have yet to find any scriptural backup to keep me from thinking this. Do you have any comment regarding it?
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