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Hmmm interesting idea. But if you read any history books, thats not what they say about why they came here. And yes, the puritans were awful about persecuting those who did not agree with their religious views, and it should have been an eye opener, but it wasnt; You cant simply state your last statement without naming some school districts that do, and that statement is a little on the hypocritical side considering the simple fact that the government cleary wants to seperate religion from school, and the government.Volos said:
alli_boo said:
Yes, agreed. But when the holiday was first created, it was for religious reasons.flicka said:
Conservative public schools do not want to berid of "under God" in the pledge.alli_boo said:
There wasn't any "god" in the pledge to begin with.Avoid04 said:
Avoid04 said:
It is not required for you to recite the pledge. It is required that you stand, and respect otheres that are observing it. Ill be honest with you, i dont recite the pledge, i never have. I use that time to ponder over things and think. Now if im at a game or something, then yeah ill recite it, but other than that, on a day to day basis, then no i dont think so. But your not foreced to say anything. Only to stand.Chrono Traveler said:
It was added in 1954 by the government to weed the comunists out of the country, and prevent them from coming in.Chrono Traveler said:
I agree with most of what your saying. However, I dont say the pledge at all. During the time that people are reciting it i think, and pray, and think again on more things. So Im not disagreeing on Saying it, im just saying that its almost ironic how some people throw a fit because its there. THe government added it, so i think it might as well stay there. If someone is offended by it, then i honestly believe they need to either not say it, leave the room, or grin their teeth and bear it for the 1 1/2 mins it takes to recite it.chessterbester said:Ok, for starters the puritans did not want freedom of religion. They wanted freedom from the church of england and freedom from outside influence. Once here, they set up a theocracy, which banned free practice, set up laws where lack of church attendance was a crime, and the church was the government. At a conservative christian college I was taught that much. In high school, they tend to skip over those parts. Yes, I will give say that the first Thanksgiving was giving thanks to god for making it through the year. However, it has since became an American holiday, observed nationally by Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Atheists alike. I wasn't aware (not saying it isn't the case) that churches themselves observed Thanksgiving as a religious holiday. I mean, Christmas is a Christian holiday, but I still celebrate and enjoy this time with my family and friends as a secular occasion.
God isn't out of public schools. Most PUBLIC schools around here have at least Young Life and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. The Christian word just can't be taught in the context of worship. Passages from the bible were read in both my high school history class and my high school English class. And students were free to bring their religious texts and read them, or pray during noninstructional time. I don't see how that is kicking God and religion to the curb.
I don't say "under God" in the pledge, however I think it is silly that it be banned. If people want to, it doesn't hurt me or affect my learning, so more power to them.
alli_boo said:
How come they are alowed to teach about budisim, krishna, legalism, and mithology in school, but they can't even touch on christianity?flicka said:
