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Where is atheism more prevalent historically, in rising culture or in decaying cultures?
'Conquer the flesh'? Morality is about rather more than naughty bits!
I do not see any distinction. Morality is the same for us all, surely?
I believe that Christian and Islamic culture is failing because it is based on false principles, namely the principle that existence is a product of consciousness.
Killing people is wrong except for countless
exceptions across cultures and time.
Christians used to think it was peachy to kill
heretics and witches, among others.
Stealing? Always wrong under any possible
circumstances?
Some Christians hold that they'd not steal
penny to save their mother's life. Others find
great virtue and heroism in stealing a whole
continent.
That's not even getting into what is " stealing"
or "murder" in other cultures.
Well, I think it does. We may differ in our conclusions but the moral issues are the same for us all.
An example or two: I think there is very wide agreement that killing people is wrong and that killers should be punished somehow. There is universal agreement that stealing property belonging to another is wrong.
Of course. I did say, "across cultures".Why do you distinguish Christians in all that? Everyone operates that way.
It all depends on how different cultures define "murder" and "theft" with regard to how they define "person."
Of course.
Guess I specified coz it's Christian forums
Where Christians can be called out for special blame is when Christians do what even Christians tell themselves they should not do, and fail to do what Christians tell themselves they should do...and do not call themselves (or each other) out on it. If there is the Holy Spirit we believe there is, Christians should have the tightest adherence to our own moral tenets of any group.
I don't think so. Those two examples were chosen precisely because different cultures broadly agree in their definitions.
Hypocrisy is seldoml cool.
We note though that there is much and often
extreme disagreement on morality within the
religion.
For most of it's history, slavery was fine.
In any event-
I don't agree with your " highest" , at all.
Is it theft if a soldier takes an enemy aircraft and flies itNot really. Where they appear to agree in the definition of "murder" and "theft," they will differ in their definition of "person."
And be sure you're talking about truly different cultures. Western European nations, for instance, are not truly different from one another in culture.
A culture's definition of "person" might be the first criterion in identifying that one culture is truly different from another. Another central criterion would how that culture understands the function of time. The third criterion (I'm working on a triad here) would be how a culture determines what a "fact" is (its epistemology). I suspect if we did a study, we'd discover that when those three points differ between cultures, their understanding of "person," "murder," and "theft" also differ.
Is it about self indulgence in any form?"Conquer the flesh" is about more than naughty bits. From the outside, a Christian who has "conquered the flesh" would look much like a Stoic.
Not really. Where they appear to agree in the definition of "murder" and "theft," they will differ in their definition of "person."
And be sure you're talking about truly different cultures. Western European nations, for instance, are not truly different from one another in culture.
A culture's definition of "person" might be the first criterion in identifying that one culture is truly different from another. Another central criterion would how that culture understands the function of time. The third criterion (I'm working on a triad here) would be how a culture determines what a "fact" is (its epistemology). I suspect if we did a study, we'd discover that when those three points differ between cultures, their understanding of "person," "murder," and "theft" also differ.
I see it has already happened...
Is it theft if a soldier takes an enemy aircraft and flies it
back to his country during war?
When does a fertilized egg become a person?
True. Its "tightest".
That's a distinction sans difference in this case
From our Catechism:I think I will pass for now on definitions of those two crimes.
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