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I might have gotten long winded with my thesis lol. For me believing in god is easy. But I hear repeatedly Christians going about the earth and universe being a measly 10k years old at most and that is ridiculous. .
Well, it's the largest and most widespread religion on Earth, and it doesn't monitor every thought and action of its adherents as some other religions do.
That being the case, we all are going to encounter some Christians who have adopted a few offbeat ideas. That doesn't mark the religion as bogus or anti-intellectual.
Yeah I want to know as well, I will knock parts of the bible I believe to be myth, I do not recall Jesus commenting on science.Chapter and verse where the Bible says that.
I get your point, but the reason for the decline of Christianity, if that's even true, hasn't been shown to be because of unlikable qualities in some of its adherents.Yes its the biggest religion, about 2 billion people claim to be Christians and about 1 million claim to be Muslim there is 7 billion people on the planet, the other 4 billion are sick to death of both religions. That is truth, Christianity is hurting itself fewer people follow religion each year, my old pastor has a gay son....
.The think the big bang and evolution can proven. Two biblical stories, the universe forming about 8000 years ago and the flood. First the creation, Geology, Archeology, Astronomy has debunked than 100%. The easiest way to show that is the the speed light travels, 2.5 million light years that is the distance that the andromeda galaxy is from us. That means what were seeing in the telescopes is from 2.5 million years ago, that is how long the light from that galaxy took to get to us traveling at the speed of light. 2.5 Million vs. 8000 years. The farthest galaxy we seen is roughly 13billion from us. It is math 2+2 will always equal no matter anyone says. As for the flood, you can use the bible get with in 100 years of when the flood happened. No less that 4000 years ago and not more 4400 years ago. Now understand at biblical time of the flood the pyramids existed, the Sumerians who were around 6000 years ago, there ruins and the shells of cities, 5000 years ago china was going strong. Now the bible says the water was 20 ft over the tallest mountain, even then Everest would still probably be the tallest, So the water raises roughly 4/5 miles over the over. Now first off there has not been significant stop in Chinese history in the last 5k years which a flood would have done. Finally if such a flood happened the flood would have flattened everything, the pyramids, there would be no ancient settlements. Now was there flood that is the basis for the flood story yeah there have been plenty of floods in history that to a ancient people would have seemed like the end of the world. I believe in god that is faith, but as for facts nothing in any religious book can be proven.
Christianity is not an alma mater.Yes its the biggest religion, about 2 billion people claim to be Christians and about 1 million claim to be Muslim there is 7 billion people on the planet, the other 4 billion are sick to death of both religions. That is truth, Christianity is hurting itself fewer people follow religion each year,
And not for the reasons you think. . .my old pastor has a gay son and he was forced to chose between his child and his church, big surprise he chose his child. Most people would chose there child I know I would, If one of my children turned out to be gay and come judgement day god told me my kid is going to hell, I would be joining my kid.
Are you sure about that?I look at the bible and and I see a very large portion of it being the views and beliefs of a bronze age people, the world back then was flat, storms were a literal act of god, sickness was evil spirits, the earth was center of the universe,
all things we know not to be true lol.
He did comment on the following accounts, verifying their truth:Yeah I want to know as well, I will knock parts of the bible I believe to be myth,
I do not recall Jesus commenting on science.
Christianity is not an alma mater.
And not for the reasons you think. . .
Are you sure about that?
Scripture states the earth is a circle.
Who originated the unchanging laws of physics? The causes of all storms were built into the earth's system with its physical laws by its Creator.
Not all sickness was viewed as evil spirits, and you don't know that some of them weren't.
We cannot prove the center of the universe, it is relative to our location.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Well said!
Yes its the biggest religion, about 2 billion people claim to be Christians and about 1 million claim to be Muslim there is 7 billion people on the planet, the other 4 billion are sick to death of both religions. That is truth, Christianity is hurting itself fewer people follow religion each year, my old pastor has a gay son and he was forced to chose between his child and his church, big surprise he chose his child. Most people would chose there child I know I would, If one of my children turned out to be gay and come judgement day god told me my kid is going to hell, I would be joining my kid. I look at the bible and and I see a very large portion of it being the views and beliefs of a bronze age people, the world back then was flat, storms were a literal act of god, sickness was evil spirits, the earth was center of the universe, all things we know not to be true lol.
You are doing the same thing that he did you realize.
You have taken what you have heard eg "Bible teaches world is flat"
Believed it
Spread it.
The Bible does not teach that the world is flat, it is simply that many people back then believed it was flat and they also believed in the Bible. Same way people claim scripture teaches that Mary was a perpetual virgin. No, its a group of people, in the case of Mary the Catholic church that teach that. But the Catholic church or the Baptist church or 'this group over here' isn't the Bible.
There is a distinction between what people of religion claim and what scripture says.
People attribute all manner of things to "The Bible says so" but once you actually dig into the Bible, where is what they claim? Often nowhere to be found.
>>>I look at the bible and and I see the world back then was flat.
Chapter and verse?
Oh, that's rich!The bible does not teach the earth I never said that, but someone who is falling on the ground spasming and foaming at the mouth, is not possessed by the devil...there having an epileptic seizure. But the book of revelations also says that the stars will crash to earth...WHICH IS IMPOSIBLE.
Seems like the same can be said of you regarding God.That is the problem the writers of the bible did not have the slightest big of knowledge about Physics, Biology, Geology, or Archeology.
Oh, that's rich!
Nothing is impossible with the Creator of it all.
Seems like the same can be said of you regarding God.
The bible does not teach the earth I never said that, but someone who is falling on the ground spasming and foaming at the mouth, is not possessed by the devil...there having an epileptic seizure. But the book of revelations also says that the stars will crash to earth...WHICH IS IMPOSIBLE. That is the problem the writers of the bible did not have the slightest big of knowledge about Physics, Biology, Geology, or Archeology.
You’ve got most of it wrong.Religion especially Christianity has always feared science in all of its forms. The reason for this, it proves many biblical belief false. Copernicus and Galileo with telescopes figured out the earth is not the center of the universe and the church fought furiously to prevent that information from being spread.
Biology, Geology, Astronomy, Archeology all have disproved many things in the bible and Christianity fears that and so does Islam. The earth is not flat nor the center of the universe, Natural Disasters is nature acting up not punishment from god. Diseases are not caused by evil spirits but by germs. Geology, Archeology, and Astronomy have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the earth and universe are much older than religion likes to admit.
The bible is a book written over 2,000 yrs. ago by fisherman and goat herders, has been translated into and out of 100s of languages, by human beings, depending on the language one word can mean several thing. Evolution, Astronomy, Biology, Geology, Archeology, science in all its forms threatens Christians more than most. It does not threaten me, it proves the existence of god to me. If you look at how complex the universe is you can see a designer behind it. I believe in Christ, I also know that the New Testament has been edited books have been removed. I believe the bible to be a book designed to show us how to have a relationship with god, I think much of it that many consider fact is just parable and myth.
That’s completely unworkable.I might have gotten long winded with my thesis lol. For me believing in god is easy. But I hear repeatedly Christians going about the earth and universe being a measly 10k years old at most and that is ridiculous. I know the bible we read now was created 300-400 BC, I know it was edited and I know it has been translated more times than we can count. I can also figure that the Jewish people had parables and myths and they ended up in the bible just like every other culture. I think the bible is a good book on how to have a relationship with Christ and I believe in much of the new testament, the old testament not so much.
That’s completely unworkable.
The Old Testament is full of types, shadows, and symbols revealed in the New Testament, and Jesus taught the authority and accuracy of all the scriptures, and even prophesied that the earth will be just as it was at the time of Noah’s flood, and made Jonah in the fish the sign of His death and resurrection after three days.
The Old Testament is also full of prophecies that are fulfilled in the New Testament.
If the Old Testament isn’t accurate, inspired and trustworthy, then the NT isn’t either.
Sol9mons temple was destroyed in 70 AD, and it’s ruins are right there in Israel to see.Answer this, every major world power in the last 6000 years from China, Egypt, Sumeria, Persia, Greece, Rome, Now according to the bible King Solomon was the most rich, wise, and powerful king of his time. And yet there is not legitimate historical evidence of his existence. So at one time according to the bible Israel was the most powerful nation in the world yet there is know evidence of it. Why is that? The Sumerians are the first recorded world power about 6000 years ago and we have more archeological evidence them than King Solomon and his empire which existed 3000 years ago. The new testament was written 70 years after Christ's death, it was not written in the life time of anyone who knew Christ. Here I am gonna be brutally honest. THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE THAT ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE IS FACT! The belief in god is a matter of faith...NOT FACT!
I would say that you might want to completely rethink your interpretation of the Bible in the light of the truths that God has chosen to reveal to us through science.I’d say you might want to completely rethink your assessment of science and Christianity.
The Bible does not say the earth is flat
Genesis did not come from goat herders imagination - Moses spent forty days on the mountain with God, and wrote down what God told him
- plus Jesus taught the Old Testament scriptures are the authoritative word of God.
Whenever science contradicts the Bible, science is wrong.I would say that you might want to completely rethink your interpretation of the Bible in the light of the truths that God has chosen to reveal to us through science.
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