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Rejection of evolution correlates with racism

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Not a big surprise - one need only look at the darlings of the GQP.


Disbelief in human evolution linked to greater prejudice and racism

"Similarly, across the globe -- in 19 Eastern European countries, 25 Muslim countries and in Israel -- low belief in evolution was linked to higher biases within a person's group, prejudicial attitudes toward people in different groups and less support for conflict resolution.

The findings supported the hypothesis of lead author Stylianos Syropoulos, a Ph.D. candidate in the War and Peace Labof senior author Bernhard Leidner, associate professor of social psychology. They collaborated with co-first author Uri Lifshin at Reichman University in Israel and co-authors Jeff Greenberg and Dylan Horner at the University of Arizona in Tucson. The researchers theorized that belief in evolution would tend to increase people's identification with all humanity, due to the common ancestry, and would lead to less prejudicial attitudes."

Matches my experiences over the past 3 decades.

What!? Hogwash! Creationists believe in a common ancestor too, Adam & Eve, as well as a higher power who judges mankind. So that rubbish makes no sense.
 
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Then I guess these bible-lovers were just.... stupid?

"... We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states."​


Seems to be an issue with a lot of such folk these days.

Why did you post that garbage?
 
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Good point actually. I think that the problem may lie in education. Acceptance of evolution tends to go along with a higher level of education. If one has enough education to understand evolution, and accept it as a result, then it is hard to use it in racism since the theory also explains how little difference there is between humans. Christianity ideally should be against racism too. If one understands the belief properly one should not be racist. The problem is that Christianity has a very wide acceptance. Many people accept it without fully understanding it. As a result the uneducated drag down Christianity when it comes to topics such as racism.

Yup, exactly. Plus Christianity has been around a lot longer than the theory of evolution. Christianity is handed down from generation to generation but people have to go to school to learn evolution which is where they also learn racial tolerance and interact with different people. So more educated people attach themselves to the false new age belief of evolution. But common people AND educated people believe in creation.
 
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So does the belief in God creating Adam and Eve as the first humans and all other humans share that common ancestry.
Christians can believe in common ancestry with other humans without believing in evolution.

I would expect that people who believe in a common ancestry would be in opposition to racism since all races are related to one another deriving from one couple. I’m highly skeptical about the accuracy of this study.
 
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Can bake cakes just not cakes that celebrate events or ideologies that they believe are celebrating sins, such as racism or Nazis or sexual sins or thief or murder, etc.

An atheist baker could refuse to bake a wedding cake depicting a church with a Christian cross on it because he really HATES the idea of Christianity. He believes it's evil and oppressive and against his own faith.

Personally, I believe that contract artists should be free to create what they choose to create and not be forced into creating against their will.

I agree, it is an insult for homosexuals to deliberately go to a Christian baker and ask for a wedding cake. They know good and well Christians oppose that. That's why they do it. It's an attack on Christianity and they try to twist it to make the Christians look bad. There are literally thousands of places they can go to get their wedding cake from people who will be glad to help them.
 
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Not a big surprise - one need only look at the darlings of the GQP.


Disbelief in human evolution linked to greater prejudice and racism

"Similarly, across the globe -- in 19 Eastern European countries, 25 Muslim countries and in Israel -- low belief in evolution was linked to higher biases within a person's group, prejudicial attitudes toward people in different groups and less support for conflict resolution.

The findings supported the hypothesis of lead author Stylianos Syropoulos, a Ph.D. candidate in the War and Peace Labof senior author Bernhard Leidner, associate professor of social psychology. They collaborated with co-first author Uri Lifshin at Reichman University in Israel and co-authors Jeff Greenberg and Dylan Horner at the University of Arizona in Tucson. The researchers theorized that belief in evolution would tend to increase people's identification with all humanity, due to the common ancestry, and would lead to less prejudicial attitudes."

Matches my experiences over the past 3 decades.
It did not work for Hitler. He used evolution to develop his theory of the master race. One of the justifications for slavery was that blacks were closer to apes than whites and so inferior. Muslims are not racist. They despise all non-Muslims equally.
 
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Then I guess these bible-lovers were just.... stupid?

"... We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states."​


Seems to be an issue with a lot of such folk these days.

The words Christian and racist are contradictory to one another. A person can’t be both no matter how much they claim to be.
 
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So more educated people attach themselves to the false new age belief of evolution.
On what basis, exactly, do you conclude that evolution is "false"? How do you explain the fact that tens of thousands highly trained experts are virtually unanimous in asserting that evolution has the status of fact.

Are they all incompetent?

Is there a mass conspiracy to delude?
 
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It did not work for Hitler. He used evolution to develop his theory of the master race. One of the justifications for slavery was that blacks were closer to apes than whites and so inferior.
Even if all this is true, it has no bearing whatsover on the question of whether evolution is the correct account of how we "got here".
 
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It did not work for Hitler. He used evolution to develop his theory of the master race. One of the justifications for slavery was that blacks were closer to apes than whites and so inferior. Muslims are not racist. They despise all non-Muslims equally.

Yes I agree there are Muslims of all races.
 
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On what basis, exactly, do you conclude that evolution is "false"? How do you explain the fact that tens of thousands highly trained experts are virtually unanimous in asserting that evolution has the status of fact.

Are they all incompetent?

Is there a mass conspiracy to delude?

On the basis of what the Bible says is why I know evolution is wrong. Those who believe in it are deluded themselves. Plus the theory of evolution claims that people evolved, and that some people are more evolved than other people. So that's more rooted in racism than Christianity will ever be.
 
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Even if all this is true, it has no bearing whatsover on the question of whether evolution is the correct account of how we "got here".

LOL Now you want to claim it has nothing to do with race. Evolution is based on the idea that people evolved from slime or whatever and that some groups of people are more evolved than other groups. That's what your theory embraces. Then evolutionists have the nerve to try to say Christians are more racist.
 
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On the basis of what the Bible says is why I know evolution is wrong. Those who believe in it are deluded themselves. Plus the theory of evolution claims that people evolved, and that some people are more evolved than other people. So that's more rooted in racism than Christianity will ever be.

Yes I absolutely agree because Christianity concludes that all mankind derived from one source whereas evolution derives mankind from several different sources which would further promote the idea of superiority. Evilution suggests that some are more evolved than others whereas the creation account in Genesis teaches the opposite.
 
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Those who believe in it are deluded themselves.

This is rather implausible - how do you explain that people who were otherwise competent enough to earn advanced university degrees all this rather specific delusion and to invest their lives in propagating it.

Sounds rather far-fetched, don't you think?

Plus the theory of evolution claims that people evolved, and that some people are more evolved than other people.
What is your source for this assertion?
 
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On what basis, exactly, do you conclude that evolution is "false"? How do you explain the fact that tens of thousands highly trained experts are virtually unanimous in asserting that evolution has the status of fact.

Are they all incompetent?

Is there a mass conspiracy to delude?
Indeed there is. It is illegal to to teach Creation in many schools these days. It was not always the case. I was taught both in high school. I was not a believer, but I rejected evolution and accepted the Creation account. Few get the choice these days. When I was growing up, evolution was taught as a theory. Now it is taught as fact. Most people will accept a point of view until an alternative is offered. When that alternative is suppressed, what do you expect?

If you want a career in science, you will not say that you believe in creation. Very few people manage to break free from the ideological shackles that educationists and the science world places on researchers. The scientific realm is just as corrupt, dishonest, devious and self seeking as any other. If you want tenure or grants, you go with the flow, not against it.
 
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Not a big surprise - one need only look at the darlings of the GQP.


Disbelief in human evolution linked to greater prejudice and racism

"Similarly, across the globe -- in 19 Eastern European countries, 25 Muslim countries and in Israel -- low belief in evolution was linked to higher biases within a person's group, prejudicial attitudes toward people in different groups and less support for conflict resolution.

The findings supported the hypothesis of lead author Stylianos Syropoulos, a Ph.D. candidate in the War and Peace Labof senior author Bernhard Leidner, associate professor of social psychology. They collaborated with co-first author Uri Lifshin at Reichman University in Israel and co-authors Jeff Greenberg and Dylan Horner at the University of Arizona in Tucson. The researchers theorized that belief in evolution would tend to increase people's identification with all humanity, due to the common ancestry, and would lead to less prejudicial attitudes."

Matches my experiences over the past 3 decades.

I'm sure there are additional correlates in this mix which contribute to racist attitudes. It's not merely a reflection of whether or not a person signs onto the dotted line in support of the Theory of Evolution.

Let's keep this in mind.
 
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This is rather implausible - how do you explain that people who were otherwise competent enough to earn advanced university degrees all this rather specific delusion and to invest their lives in propagating it.

Sounds rather far-fetched, don't you think?
Intelligent, educated, hard working Germans were convinced that Hitler was going to lead the nation to glory. Not only Germans, some British, Europeans and Americans were also convinced and were pro Hitler. Goebbels demonstrated how easy it is to fool people.


What is your source for this assertion?
 
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Indeed there is. It is illegal to to teach Creation in many schools these days.
Misleading, I believe. It is illegal to teach creation as science.

Surely you must know that making it illegal to teach creation as science is not evidence of a conspiracy to delude - there is another, much more plausible explanation: it is illegal to teach creation in science class because it rather obviously does not qualify as a plausible scientific theory.
 
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Misleading, I believe. It is illegal to teach creation as science.

Surely you must know that making it illegal to teach creation as science is not evidence of a conspiracy to delude - there is another, much more plausible explanation: it is illegal to teach creation in science class because it rather obviously does not qualify as a plausible scientific theory.

Advanced science has always appeared to be implausible by primitive societies and at that time primitive societies never actually considered themselves to be primitive until decades if not centuries later after their technology had significantly advanced. One thing that has remained constant is that many things that were once considered implausible in the past have been proven to be plausible in the present.
 
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