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Your focus is being right sans reasoning. This thread has reached an end of questioning
So, you can't define SS, you just know the verses don't support your nonexistent definition. Makes perfect sense.I do not believe in SS. The nearest thing to a definition I've seen is in the Westminster Confession of faith first chapter. As for me defining a doctrine/practise or whatever that I do not believe ... meh. But if the folk who say they do believe it refuse to define it then fine. There's nothing to discuss and the verses obviously cannot support an undefined SS that even its advocates are too shy (or ashamed) to define.
I do not believe in SS. The nearest thing to a definition I've seen is in the Westminster Confession of faith first chapter. As for me defining a doctrine/practise or whatever that I do not believe ... meh. But if the folk who say they do believe it refuse to define it then fine. There's nothing to discuss and the verses obviously cannot support an undefined SS that even its advocates are too shy (or ashamed) to define.
Nice quote from wiki, is it your definition of SS or will you back away from it if it is analysed against the holy scriptures and church teaching?Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by Scripture alone") is the Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice. Sola scriptura does not deny that other authorities govern Christian life and devotion, but sees them all as subordinate to and corrected by the written word of God.
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Do you agree with the definition? If so, bring forth scriptures that say scripture is insufficient as to doctrine and practice.Nice quote from wiki, is it your definition of SS or will you back away from it if it is analysed against the holy scriptures and church teaching?
It looks like a good definition to me, but since I reject the doctrine asking me if it is a good definition of what you claim to believe is odd. Don't you know what you believe about SS? Do you believe the quote you gave is what SS means and that is properly represents what you believe?Do you agree with the definition? If so, bring forth scriptures that say scripture is insufficient as to doctrine and practice.
Moving on, you may bring forth your scripture to denounce scripture alone.It looks like a good definition to me, but since I reject the doctrine asking me if it is a good definition of what you claim to believe is odd. Don't you know what you believe about SS? Do you believe the quote you gave is what SS means and that is properly represents what you believe?
No, it works the other way around. The one making the claim ought to produce the evidence for it. Your evidently teach and believe SS so where's the scripture that teaches it?Moving on, you may bring forth your scripture to denounce scripture alone.
Are you saying you have not read the thread? If you have then then scripture, teaching, and reasonings are there. Anti-SS have provided nothing. This is a waste of my time to post and be ignored. We have been decent enough to provide the teaching and all we get is "you have no definition" When it's provided it's like the teaching never happened :duh:No, it works the other way around. The one making the claim ought to produce the evidence for it. Your evidently teach and believe SS so where's the scripture that teaches it?
noAre you saying you have not read the thread?
Done that many times, especially referencing St. Paul, who says to use Scripture and the Traditions I have passed on to you...to Timothy.Moving on, you may bring forth your scripture to denounce scripture alone.
See, we go with Sola God. Sola Scriptura is not the Christian doctrine, it is the Protestant doctrine...the Christian doctrine would be that the Word of God alone is the supreme authority...The definition has been posted already and why would anyone post it if they didn't believe it. The definition is the accepted definition of SS
Sola scriptura (Latinablative, "by Scripture alone") is the Christian doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice. Sola scriptura does not deny that other authorities govern Christian life and devotion, but sees them all as subordinate to and corrected by the written word of God.
The onus is on you to disprove it.
Done that many times, especially referencing St. Paul, who says to use Scripture and the Traditions I have passed on to you...to Timothy.
This has been discussed at the point of the thread the quote is from. You had no answer for it so please quit regurgitating the conversation to make it seem like you have something when you don't.Can you say that any Traditions are God breathed?
They may be inspired but specifically the scripture states that the scripture IS God breathed.
What is God's breathing? It's life, just as God breathed life into Adam and Jesus breathed upon His disciples to recieve the Holy Spirit. It's the Holy Spirit who gives life and the flesh can profit nothing.
Jesus' words, the God breathed words, that He spoke to us are spirit and are life.
The Holy Spirit is the very substance of scripture in which the Spirit lives and breathes. We have to come into contact with scripture to recieve life because it's in the hearing that the Holy Spirit germinates new birth.
Scripture, being the embodiment of the Holy Spirit, as well God's word also encompasses the embodiment of Christ. His name is called the Word of God. We're not to live on bread along but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
In no way does this leave any room for other authority.
2 Timothy 2
2You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 2 And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others.
4 No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in civilian affairs, but rather tries to please his commanding officer.
5 Similarly, anyone who competes as an athlete does not receive the victor’s crown except by competing according to the rules.
8 Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my gospel,
9 for which I am suffering even to the point of being chained like a criminal. But God’s word is not chained.
10 Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory.
11 Here is a trustworthy saying:
If we died with him,
we will also live with him;
12 if we endure,
we will also reign with him.
If we disown him,
he will also disown us;
13 if we are faithless,
he remains faithful,
for he cannot disown himself.
14 Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
God's word is not chained but a worker to present themselves as one approved must correctly handle the word of truth. To me that means scripture.
What does "It is written" mean to you?Holy scripture says "And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:3-4 KJV)
Matthew 4:4
Jesus answers by a quotation from Deu_8:3. The chapter sets forth the teaching of the wilderness. The forty years were to the Jews what the forty days are to Jesus. The Lord God proved Israel “to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments or no. And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna … that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every [word, omitted in Hebr.] that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.”
Christ’s test of sonship is obedience and entire trust in God who alone is the giver of every good gift. The devil’s test of sonship is supply of bodily wants, external prosperity, &c.
(The Cambridge Bible Commentary)
This passage is significant because it says words from the mouth of God and not words written in holy scripture.
It means what it says; is that a trick question?What does "It is written" mean to you?
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