"Reformed" or just "Real"?

[HoneyDew]

Having read many of the posts in your threads--it's easy to see the obsession with this issue. Of course people of color are upset over segregation--to deny this would be dishonest. There is no need to be so defensive HoneyDew.

Of course, you know better, Dizahab, than the poster what their mood is. Fabulous!!!

The poster, PrincessDi, has indicated what her mood is.

 

[StormyOne]

I would like to have you propose some "cures" for this wrinkle please.

dismantle the .org and start over from scratch organizationally...

 

[StormyOne]

Having read many of the posts in your threads--it's easy to see the obsession with this issue. Of course people of color are upset over segregation--to deny this would be dishonest. There is no need to be so defensive HoneyDew.

Interesting... you stomp on my foot everytime you pass and then wonder why I wince in pain when I see you coming..... it is not obsession when one choses to speak out against practices that are anti-christian, it's a ministry....What is interesting is that there are so few people who are christians and belong to the majority population who are not upset over segregation...

 

[HoneyDew]

Have a good day y'all.

 

[StormyOne]

Have a good day y'all.

I am having a splenderforous day.... hope you do too!!!

 

[Dizahab]

Interesting... you stomp on my foot everytime you pass and then wonder why I wince in pain when I see you coming..... it is not obsession when one choses to speak out against practices that are anti-christian, it's a ministry....What is interesting is that there are so few people who are christians and belong to the majority population who are not upset over segregation...

I think that when the majority of ones posts are either directly or indirectly related to one certain theme--that it IS indeed an obsession. Jesus said if "I" be lifted up, I'll draw ALL men to me. Seems that if we would UPLIFT Jesus, who by the way is the ONLY answer to prejudice, then there would be no segragation; and prejudice, by either blacks or whites would cease.

 

[Dizahab]

dismantle the .org and start over from scratch organizationally...

Who would do the dismantling and the reorganizing? And what happens to the very important ministries and under departments while this happening? Shouldn't the dismantling be done decently and in order?

Your thoughts please.

 

[StormyOne]

I think that when the majority of ones posts are either directly or indirectly related to one certain theme--that it IS indeed an obsession. Jesus said if "I" be lifted up, I'll draw ALL men to me. Seems that if we would UPLIFT Jesus, who by the way is the ONLY answer to prejudice, then there would be no segragation; and prejudice, by either blacks or whites would cease.

You are entitled to your opinion... even when its wrong.... thank you for sharing....

Obsession is defined as:
1. Compulsive preoccupation with a fixed idea or an unwanted feeling or emotion, often accompanied by symptoms of anxiety.
2. A compulsive often unreasonable idea or emotion.

The posts I have read do not fit that definition...

 

[StormyOne]

Who would do the dismantling and the reorganizing? And what happens to the very important ministries and under departments while this happening? Shouldn't the dismantling be done decently and in order?

Your thoughts please.

Go read about the Memphis miracle. Google that phrase and read about how the black pentecostals and white pentecostals reconciled.... that will give you an idea...

 

[moicherie]

I think Dizahab askes a very insightful question;
Does any of the those that have posted to this thread, or feel the church is racist, attend an integrated church?

My local chuch is not racist we are mainly West Indian, a few White English and one White Jew and White Hispanics. However when the black immigrants came over to the British cities in the 1960's the white Adventists decided to attend the churches in the suburbs and then the countryside. Coincidence methinks not- more like 'Adventist white flight'.

In 2001 the white members asked for their own camp meeting tent so they could have their own camp meeting on the same grounds - despite objections from some on the conference council the conference caved in however the white members still did not show up. There was even a proposal back in the 1990's by the white members for regional conferences for whites the proposal was rejected by most of the British membership.

But never mind lets all sing, all together now "In Christ there is no east or west in Him no south or north but one great fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth'"

What do you mean we ain't reach there yet ,we sing it dont we?????

 

[Dizahab]

Go read about the Memphis miracle. Google that phrase and read about how the black pentecostals and white pentecostals reconciled.... that will give you an idea...

Dear sir, I asked for YOUR opinion and that is what I want to hear. So if you would be so kind as to do that, it would be very nice. Thank you.

 

[StormyOne]

Dear sir, I asked for YOUR opinion and that is what I want to hear. So if you would be so kind as to do that, it would be very nice. Thank you.

You have been given my opinion... go... read.... then you will understand.....

 

[StormyOne]

From your posts, I feel you are obsessed with this racism issue. But I will not argue the point. All is well. Thank you.

Nothing to argue... you are entitled to your "feelings" even when they are wrong... In my opinion the comments made do not reflect an obsession, and while you "feel" they constitute an obsession you have offered no evidence that they do based on the definition of that word.

Based on your comments thus far I feel that in this particular area you are clueless..... clueless being defined as:

1. Lacking understanding or knowledge.

2. totally uninformed about what is going on; not having even a clue from which to infer what is occurring.

In my opinion were you more informed you would have more information which would enable you to tell the difference between an obsession and statements of fact...

Thank you though for sharing your feelings and your opinion....

 

[HoneyDew]

Stormy, why water a plant that is not thirsty?

 

[StormyOne]

Stormy, why water a plant that is not thirsty?

Cause God causes the rain to fall on the just and unjust... therefore we are to be complete in righteousness as is our Father in heaven.... (ummm my name is stormy thats what i do.... i bring the rain??? LOL)

Don't want it to be said, "I joined the forum, tried to engage in conversation, but they wouldn't talk to me...." Besides.... I look at it more like, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.... but you do show them the water...

 

[HoneyDew]

By the way, read the rules before baiting. What is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander.

 

[HoneyDew]

Don't want it to be said, "I joined the forum, tried to engage in conversation, but they wouldn't talk to me...." Besides.... I look at it more like, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.... but you do show them the water...

Yeah, something like that.
Prophecy fulfilled in all its glory.

 

[HoneyDew]

@ Stormy: how do you tell a person their feelings and opinions are wrong? Do you mean they have the wrong facts? Or what do you mean? Just curious because it is a tad confusing.

 

[StormyOne]

@ Stormy: how do you tell a person their feelings and opinions are wrong? Do you mean they have the wrong facts? Or what do you mean? Just curious because it is a tad confusing.

Opinions are wrong when all the info is not considered.... feelings are wrong when all the info has not been considered..... example....

I can sign on this forum, see your name and think, "Hey Honeydew is on, I will send her a PM and see how she is doing, etc." So I do that and get no response. I send another and get no response.... so now I have several options, I can conclude that you are ignoring me, or that you didn't receive the private notes, or that something is wrong with your computer, or something is wrong with my computer, or your name is showing that you are here but you aren't, etc, etc, etc..... If I choose to believe you are ignoring me, and then choose to respond by feeling hurt, my feelings were genuine, but wrong, and my opinion was wrong too....

The only way I will know what really happened would be to talk to you for a while and ask if you got my messages, did you see me on, etc.... I cannot conclude just based on the initial info that my conclusions and feelings based on those conclusions were correct..... make sense?

 

[HoneyDew]

I just had to ask just for clarification ... you know how sometimes one can misunderstand.
Thanks