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WrightWife

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If you now see the red flags that you dismissed earlier (controlling nature/emotional imbalance/abuse/sexual deviance) and they are ruining your marriage, do you feel God calls you to stay in your marrige no matter what?

There were many red flags I overlooked while we were dating and we have gone through many counselors, seperation, and prayer all to no avail. Not to mention he is a fair weather only Christian but I didn't realize that until after we got married. The only moderate motivator hubby has is the fear of being alone. He depends on me to tolerate his demons simply bc he's not strong enough to battle them himself. His low self esteem, lying, depression and immense ego are demons he'll admit to having but takes little responsibility in overcoming.

So, believing that marrying him was not in God's will, how could God command me to stay? I beleive God can turn anyone around but I don't believe its my responsibility to be his wife in order for that change to happen.
 

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That's exactly my point. How do I know if it's God's will for me to stay? Couldn't God have given me the clarity to see things for how they really are use me as a vehicle to show hubby that he can no longer treat ppl the way he does without suffering consequences?

It's my belief that abusers continue to abuse because they don't experience the natural causes of thier behavior. Making the decision to leave may be what it takes for him to see what changes he needs to make in his life. Is it possible he using me in this way?
 
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You would be amazed to see how God takes circumstances, even the "unsavory" ones, and turns them around for His glory!

I'll give you the instance of my husband's ex-wife. She and my husband married after she became pregnant. After a tumultuous three years, her infidelity caused her to lose her marriage, as well as custody of her children.

Now, before you get the idea that my husband was a weakling in those days, hear me out...He left her after he caught her in adultery for the fourth or fifth time. Forgiveness, practiced over and over, until he realized that he had his own babies in a situation which would get nastier over time. He was also risking his own health in sleeping with a woman who was continually unfaithful.

He left with his babies.

Fast-forward three years. As his babies grow, the newly-single dad spent those years living, praying, and showing pictures of their mom to them so they would know her if they saw her. His ex calls him out of the blue, after three years of being missing...She's in trouble. She moved in with a man, became pregnant, and the man beat her until she lost the child. She begged her ex-husband to help her.

He went to the house, helped her pack, and brought her to a safe place. He asked her to return to him. She refused point-blank.

Fast-forward another three years. She finally finds a man who loves her, and marries him. She bears another child. Her ex-husband resigns himself to the fact that the mother of his children is never coming back. He ends up remarrying MaraPetra.

Where is God in this tale of adultery, violence, abuse and pain? God is where He always is...In the background, understanding that this evil situation is part of a larger picture of His making.

Was the marriage of God? Hmmm...Both professed to be devout Roman Catholic at the time, but only one held the marriage vows sacred. A "fair weather Christian", if you will.

Was it God's will that the marriage dissolve? Who knows? We can be judged by men till the cows come home, but ultimately we answer to our Heavenly Father...Not men. But the alternate question is, was it God's will that those two beautiful children be raised in a household where Momma had moral issues? (In the same way, you can ask yourself if it's God's will that one of His creations be treated like garbage. The answer is, "Of course not!" God wishes us to have life more abundant, not life more painful.)

Now, let me tell you who this woman is today. She's still married to her second husband...A very faithful woman, might I add. She co-parents beautifully, working with us in a way that is not bitter, or hateful, or painful for her kids. She was saved earlier this year :clap: , and she, myself, my husband and her/his/my kids attend the same church. She serves in the church.

Where is God's will in all this? For starters, I wouldn't have been given the gift of the truly wonderful man I call my husband. I wouldn't have the love of two children whom I didn't bear into life, nor would I love them so maddeningly in return. I wouldn't have a wonderful friendship with my kids' mother (and yes, I love her to death! She's like a sister to me.). My kids wouldn't be functional, and missing many of the social/emotional issues that most children of divorce have.

All of these terrible situations culminated in a beautiful sequence...A woman who had sinned terribly found out that Jesus could, indeed, forgive even HER!

Pray for God's will, WrightWife. Focus not only on what you "feel" you should be doing, but instead focus on listening for that"small, still" voice in which God speaks.

Ultimately, we don't know where God is taking us in our spiritual journey. You don't know where God is taking your husband, either. But rest assured, no matter which way you are led to go, that God is in complete control. He knows your pain, your sorrows, you tears and struggles.

And know that, even if you don't see His hand in things right now...When you look back, you'll be amazed to see His fingerprints over every aspect of the situation.
 
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Thanks MaraPetra. I know God has not foresaken me nor left me to my own devices. God is still speaking to me in small ways. And to piggyback off your experience, I know God can turn any situation around. I still have a peace that I can't explain but I struggle with "overthinking/overanalyzing".
 
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T I still have a peace that I can't explain but I struggle with "overthinking/overanalyzing".

WrightWife,

Oh how I totally agree with you. Sometiimes I think, hey, I feel like I should feel worse about what is happening. (Wife and I are getting Divorce, filed this past Friday). I was actually feeling pretty good. This weekend was a little rougher for me though. I think the finality of it is starting to set in. Eventhough it will not be final until January, it seems to be pretty much over and that is where it had gotton a little more difficult. I wish I could just shut my mind off sometimes. It's like I torture myself with reliving stuff in my head. I just have to keep telling myself the woman I fell in love with is dead. All that is left is the shell of the person that once was. arg, she just called me to ask if I can make her some extra copies of the settlement agreement. It is so weird, we seem to get along better now than when we were together. Darn it Jason, stop thinking...... Sorry, I am getting off track.

The peace you cannot explain can only be explained as the grace of God. He is so awesome. Once we give ourselves to him he will be there for us. We just have to trust and surrender our lives and problems to him. We cannot fix this alone.

God Bless
 
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I must say that I agree 100%! I too ignored the red flags and I am in hell now! I have been dealing with the Word in relation to marriage lately, and the revelation I got was just as you mentioned. I got married out of the will of God while in a backslidden condition....I don't think God will require me to suffer the consequences for the rest of my life now that I am fully back in the Word! What purpose would grace and mercy serve if we are to suffer for our mistakes eternally? The word says that if the unbeliever wants to remain with the believer then you are to let them dwell. What that says to me is that God is speaking to the believer, not the backslider and certainly not the unbeliever.....so I am not bound by that law to let my husband stay and tear my life apart. My proof of that is that God says "If you love me, you will keep my commandments", as much as we proclaim to love God, the truth is, if you stray away from God and are not keeping His commandments, you are not loving God therefore you can not claim to be a believer. Doesn't the word also say that we must be hearers and doers of the word? So that would mean that if you are only a hearer and you do not do, you can't be counted in the number. Sorry for writing so much, I think I will add this to my myspace site!
 
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