~! Recovering from a broken spirit due to fornication !~

[e=mv^2]

vile, disgusting abomination.

We do not make sex into a an abomination. Sex is a wonderful thing. It is also something that carries alot of responsiblity and should only take place inside marriage. That is part of what marriage is made for.

This is what 'fornication' actually is:

What a disgusting heap of fith that is.

Fornication is:
From the GREEK:
porneia
Harlotry (including adultery and incest)
Figuratively: Idolotry

From the HEBREW:
zanah
To commit Adultery (usually of the female, and less often of simple fornication, rarely of involuntary ravishment) Figuratively to commit idolotry

What is adultery?

[size=-1]Having sexual relations with someone other than one's husband or wife.[/size]

There ya go. Another liberal refuted.

 

[Nymphalidae]

Why do people keep saying sex is beautiful and special and precious? You know what sex is? STICKY.

 

[Brennin]

Why do people keep saying sex is beautiful and special and precious? You know what sex is? STICKY.

Did I ever tell you that I adore your sentimentality?

 

[Nymphalidae]

Did I ever tell you that I adore your sentimentality?

I've never been accused of being a romantic

 

[Brennin]

I've never been accused of being a romantic

That is because you would beat anyone who so accused with a hockey stick.

 

[Nymphalidae]

That is because you would beat anyone who so accused with a hockey stick.

Good point.

 

[Nightson]

If you got a broken spirit you aren't doing something right, broken furniture on the other hand...

 

[CSMR]

I don't know how some people let it happen, and I don't know why others let it happen over and over again... but the thing is this: It happens that when a Christian falls into the trap of fornication and they induldge due to their edge to do so, they then would feel guilty, shameful, embarrassed, feel like God will never even listen to them if they prayed to Him, or that He will never allow them to become His children in any way ever again, their spirit is what we can call "broken" because of their act of fornicating....

Is this the correct wording? Does a Christian engage in fornication? Or shouldn't we say that a non-Christian who knows some Christian teaching engages in fornication. Then the awareness of his sin and the teaching that he has can help him become a Christian and receive forgiveness from sin. There is no guarantee however, except that he who truly seeks will find.

 

[lovechild05]

Many Christians, it happens that when they've had 'unprotected' sex with their partners and pregnancy results, they tend to arrange to get married quickly before the pregnancy "shows" on the woman partner, we all know the obvious reason why they do that.
Now, others, it happens that maybe the guy doesn't want to be with this lady anymore, or the other way around, or both ways, now what happens in a situation like that one?

What would you do?

 

[LouTheWicked]

Ring up an adoption centre, get info on child support, etc? I would've made sure in the first place that we were using protection.

You know what sex is? STICKY.

And gooey too!

 

[Ledifni]

Many Christians, it happens that when they've had 'unprotected' sex with their partners and pregnancy results, they tend to arrange to get married quickly before the pregnancy "shows" on the woman partner, we all know the obvious reason why they do that.

Yes, we all know the reason, and I could hardly think of a worse reason to get married. The reason is that single mothers, even now, tend to be very stigmatized in our society. People don't like them, and some people persecute them. So they get married to somebody they very likely would never have married otherwise -- and consign themselves to a life with an unsuitable partner simply because society can't be mature enough to understand and accept their choices. It's very sad.

 

[LienShen]

Why do people keep saying sex is beautiful and special and precious? You know what sex is? STICKY.

Sticky, warm, and enjoyable... you mean.

I'll trade guilt-ridden for sticky-feeling any day of the week. (Sometimes more than once a day, in fact.)

As for getting pregnant, well... that will sometimes happen as a result when one pairs being self-indulgent with being careless. But that shouldn't mean that we should shun one because of the few.

Society is cruel. Anyone who feels pressured to get married because they were careless and others expect them to "do the right thing" already has other issues. I know plenty of great single moms and dads that are very highly regarded, successful and wonderful people. Compassion should always be more important than damnation...

 

[lovechild05]

To them ladies: Oright, now suppose a guy you're goin' out with finds out from you that you're suspecting that you might be pregnant. Say maybe, a few days now. The embryo (if there's one in your uterus/tubes) is stilll trying to find its "landing"; would it be too much for the guy to ask you to not proceed with the pregnany giving reasons that both of you are not ready to have children and on top of that it's gonna cause a lot of strain for the both of you because of say maybe you're financial status (both of you) having put into consideration that rasing children is expensive and time consuming??

Would it be too much to ask?

Now, why do some girls/ladies like to keep their pregnancies hoping to "trap" the guy into staying in the relationship with them?

 

[AcadiaMoon]

To them ladies: Oright, now suppose a guy you're goin' out with finds out from you that you're suspecting that you might be pregnant. Say maybe, a few days now. The embryo (if there's one in your uterus/tubes) is stilll trying to find its "landing"; would it be too much for the guy to ask you to not proceed with the pregnany giving reasons that both of you are not ready to have children and on top of that it's gonna cause a lot of strain for the both of you because of say maybe you're financial status (both of you) having put into consideration that rasing children is expensive and time consuming??

Would it be too much to ask?

I think you can share your opinion and what you'd wish would happen, but at this point it is out of your hands. If she's pregnant, for the next 9 months, all the final choices about the pregnancy (including if to remain pregnant or terminate) come from her. Share your opinion, ask she go to a doctor, get a paternity test after the baby is born, and contact a lawyer.

Now, why do some girls/ladies like to keep their pregnancies hoping to "trap" the guy into staying in the relationship with them?

Probably for the same reason men have sex in a failing relationship... Inability to see the big picture or think clearly.

 

[AcadiaMoon]

Many Christians, it happens that when they've had 'unprotected' sex with their partners and pregnancy results, they tend to arrange to get married quickly before the pregnancy "shows" on the woman partner, we all know the obvious reason why they do that.
Now, others, it happens that maybe the guy doesn't want to be with this lady anymore, or the other way around, or both ways, now what happens in a situation like that one?

What would you do?

Get a lawyer. Draw out custody, child support, and other parental rights (pending paternity test). Be honest with the other person who may not want to break up.

I'd never advocate rushing to the altar to get married. That's a bad move.

 

[Ledifni]

Probably for the same reason men have sex in a failing relationship... Inability to see the big picture or think clearly.

Sex in a failing relationship? Everybody -- man or woman -- has sex in failing relationships. It's one of the most common ways to attempt to resurrect the romance. In fact, often it's by far the easiest way -- after sex, a lot of things are easier to talk out and deal with. I don't understand why you think it's irresponsible to have sex when your relationship isn't going well.

 

[AcadiaMoon]

Sex in a failing relationship? Everybody -- man or woman -- has sex in failing relationships. It's one of the most common ways to attempt to resurrect the romance. In fact, often it's by far the easiest way -- after sex, a lot of things are easier to talk out and deal with. I don't understand why you think it's irresponsible to have sex when your relationship isn't going well.

I guess it's just me, but when I was in a relationship I knew was going to end or I knew I didn't want to be with the person anymore, I didn't have sex with them. It was a waste of my time and theirs to continue the physical relationship when there was no hope for the relationship as a whole. And if I didn't like them enough to want to be in a relationship with them, I certainly didn't like them enough to have sex with them.

I'm not talking about relationships that aren't going well, but relationships described by the other poster, where one or both partners know it's not going to work out and that a breakup is around the corner. In cases like that, if you're still having sex, it's possible to jumpstart the relationship again, but then what are you basing the relationship on?

 

[Ledifni]

I guess it's just me, but when I was in a relationship I knew was going to end or I knew I didn't want to be with the person anymore, I didn't have sex with them. It was a waste of my time and theirs to continue the physical relationship when there was no hope for the relationship as a whole. And if I didn't like them enough to want to be in a relationship with them, I certainly didn't like them enough to have sex with them.

I'm not talking about relationships that aren't going well, but relationships described by the other poster, where one or both partners know it's not going to work out and that a breakup is around the corner. In cases like that, if you're still having sex, it's possible to jumpstart the relationship again, but then what are you basing the relationship on?

Ok, but if you've gotten to the point where you're so disillusioned with the relationship that you aren't willing to have sex with your partner for that reason, then I can't understand why you wouldn't have already broken up months earlier. It would seem to me that either there is still some feeling there -- in which case, sex may be a very healing process -- or else there is not, in which case you simply shouldn't be together. I jus can't see being in a position where I would stay with somebody that I disliked so much I didn't even want to have sex with them.

 

[AcadiaMoon]

Ok, but if you've gotten to the point where you're so disillusioned with the relationship that you aren't willing to have sex with your partner for that reason, then I can't understand why you wouldn't have already broken up months earlier. It would seem to me that either there is still some feeling there -- in which case, sex may be a very healing process -- or else there is not, in which case you simply shouldn't be together. I jus can't see being in a position where I would stay with somebody that I disliked so much I didn't even want to have sex with them.

If I don't like them enough to have sex with them, I wouldn't be in a relationship with them. That's the point. If there's no other relationship and there's no possiblility of a relationship, then there's no relationship and no possiblility of sex.

To have sex with people you don't like or want to break up with isn't fair to either partner. To be in a relationship with somebody where you don't want to have sex with them isn't fair. So in both cases, you just break up with them. It's not the adult thing to do to have sex in a relationship you want to end, and anybody who has sex with somebody they don't want to be with isn't doing the responsible thing.

 

[Ledifni]

If I don't like them enough to have sex with them, I wouldn't be in a relationship with them. That's the point. If there's no other relationship and there's no possiblility of a relationship, then there's no relationship and no possiblility of sex.

To have sex with people you don't like or want to break up with isn't fair to either partner. To be in a relationship with somebody where you don't want to have sex with them isn't fair. So in both cases, you just break up with them. It's not the adult thing to do to have sex in a relationship you want to end, and anybody who has sex with somebody they don't want to be with isn't doing the responsible thing.

Ohhh... I think I see what you're getting at. Are you talking about those people who essentially break up, and then go back and have sex because it's an easy place to get some?

If so, I agree totally. That's completely irresponsible -- though I know from experience that it can be very tempting.