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Recounting biblical disastors.

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Robert the Pilegrim said:
Assuming you are talking about Saddam...

Citation please.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4349406.stm

Robert the Pilegrim said:

Several means more than 1.

Robert the Pilegrim said:
Granted.

Not that it makes it any less of a crime but he used chemical weapons, not biological weapons.

I'm not sure what difference it makes that he used them against citizens of Iraq.

Singular: Iran. Unless you have a citation ...

Remember Kuwait?

Robert the Pilegrim said:
Yup, he and his administration lied and vilified those who pointed out that their arguments were specious, then they went off half cocked in a war without planning for the aftermath thus making day-to-day life worse than it was before for many and quite possibly dooming Iraq to a protracted civil war.

By putting them in prisons for months at a time without trial, oh yup, that is a good way to protect people.

I don't feel like giving an international relations lesson, but there are good reasons that the standards for invading other countries are high.

I opposed the invasion because we had only the most threadbare of legal figleaves to justify it.

I was beyond belief trying to comprehend how poorly they pursued it.

I am hoping against hope that it will turn out well in a few years, but in the meantime we have to keep our people there to keep it from collapsing.

Many of those who opposed our invasion did not do so out of cold heartedness, but because they felt that it would do far more harm than good.

My response was not to start a debate on the subject, so if a rebuttal is followed, I won't be answering. With that said, you are most entitled to your opinion.
 
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You certainly made me think on what plague means. I went to the CDC cite, and for plague that was really all I could find. I was suprised to see that there were still cases found in todays times.

Biblically speaking plagues I think were more like locusts, frogs, hornets, knats, flies. (At least that is what I think of when I think of a plague of something). ~and yes, even fleas, of which I loath.~ living by the beach, we deal with them daily.

However, with Moses there were other specifics like boils, killing of livestock, hailstorms, darkness covering the land, and death of the firstborn. (God could break it down and get very specific, and even make distintions between who he sent it to-even between peoples, like egyptians and hebrews).

That is downright amazing when you think about it.

Remember, the Book of Exodus was written with the full knowledge it would pass through the hands of people living in one of the seven different ages we have transversed. Each stage of our human development has existed in a mental perpective of that particular day. Each of these sets of peoples would need relate to the story differently.

Our present academic, secular, scientific paradigm needs to understand these writings differently, yet the same, in that it is a metaphor for what actually had happened.

example:

Exod. 7:17 Thus saith the LORD, In this thou shalt know that I am the LORD: behold, I will smite with the rod (of intruction) that is in mine hand, (the hand of the Kohanim), upon the waters (of the common people) which are in the river (of the Hebrews among you), and they shall be turned (from religious faith in Pharaoh-God) to blood (waters of religious conversion).
 

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