Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
Jon said:I highly recommend that each of you (if you are a creationist or evolutionist) talk to God about the creation of the earth (if you want to know the truth).
Jon said:If you have a real relationship with God then I guarantee that God will show you the truth.
Please, anyone can say "God told me so". Since God left in His creation the evidence for evolution we can safely say that it wasn't God who told you evolution is a myth, in fact, I think you probably made that up. Tut tut tut claiming God said something when he never, shame on you.Crusadar said:Been there done that, and God said that evolution is a myth.
So... if evolution is a big made-up lie... then God's creation should reflect that, right?Crusadar said:My, my, my, still defending the lie of evolution with much fervent aren't we blasty! Get a life man, a born again life that is. God left no such evidence for evolution, what He left was His word so that we may know beyond doubt that it was He who created just as He has revealed to us. There is no shame in believing in what God says, there is however much shame in making scripture conform to what man says.
Jon said:1:
I understand the this the Christian Only Forum.
Christians all belive that there is one God, and that God created the universe. However all Christians don't agree on how God created the universe. That is the reason why I posted this thread. If we all ask God to show us the truth then we will not longer dissagree on these types of things.
2:
Can you back this up?
why don't you goto the link at the bottom of the post and take a look at some verses that have the word pray in them.
http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?SearchType=AND&language=english&version=NIV&searchpage=0&search=pray
John 9
A Man Born Blind Receives Sight
The Man Born Blind
1 Now as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth. 2And His disciples asked Him, saying, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
3Jesus answered, "Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him. 4I[1] must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work. 5As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world."
6When He had said these things, He spat on the ground and made clay with the saliva; and He anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay. 7And He said to him, "Go, wash in the pool of Siloam" (which is translated, Sent). So he went and washed, and came back seeing.
8Therefore the neighbors and those who previously had seen that he was blind[2] said, "Is not this he who sat and begged?"
9Some said, "This is he." Others said, "He is like him."[3]
He said, "I am he."
10Therefore they said to him, "How were your eyes opened?"
11He answered and said, "A Man called Jesus made clay and anointed my eyes and said to me, "Go to the pool of[4] Siloam and wash.' So I went and washed, and I received sight."
12Then they said to him, "Where is He?"
He said, "I do not know."
The Pharisees Excommunicate the Healed Man
13 They brought him who formerly was blind to the Pharisees. 14Now it was a Sabbath when Jesus made the clay and opened his eyes. 15Then the Pharisees also asked him again how he had received his sight. He said to them, "He put clay on my eyes, and I washed, and I see."
16Therefore some of the Pharisees said, "This Man is not from God, because He does not keep the Sabbath."
Others said, "How can a man who is a sinner do such signs?" And there was a division among them.
17They said to the blind man again, "What do you say about Him because He opened your eyes?"
He said, "He is a prophet."
18But the Jews did not believe concerning him, that he had been blind and received his sight, until they called the parents of him who had received his sight. 19And they asked them, saying, "Is this your son, who you say was born blind? How then does he now see?"
20His parents answered them and said, "We know that this is our son, and that he was born blind; 21but by what means he now sees we do not know, or who opened his eyes we do not know. He is of age; ask him. He will speak for himself." 22His parents said these things because they feared the Jews, for the Jews had agreed already that if anyone confessed that He was Christ, he would be put out of the synagogue. 23Therefore his parents said, "He is of age; ask him."
24So they again called the man who was blind, and said to him, "Give God the glory! We know that this Man is a sinner."
25He answered and said, "Whether He is a sinner or not I do not know. One thing I know: that though I was blind, now I see."
26Then they said to him again, "What did He do to you? How did He open your eyes?"
27He answered them, "I told you already, and you did not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become His disciples?"
28Then they reviled him and said, "You are His disciple, but we are Moses' disciples. 29We know that God spoke to Moses; as for this fellow, we do not know where He is from."
30The man answered and said to them, "Why, this is a marvelous thing, that you do not know where He is from; yet He has opened my eyes! 31Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him. 32Since the world began it has been unheard of that anyone opened the eyes of one who was born blind. 33If this Man were not from God, He could do nothing."
34They answered and said to him, "You were completely born in sins, and are you teaching us?" And they cast him out.
True Vision and True Blindness
35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when He had found him, He said to him, "Do you believe in the Son of God?"[5]
36He answered and said, "Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?"
37And Jesus said to him, "You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you."
38Then he said, "Lord, I believe!" And he worshiped Him.
39And Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind."
40Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, "Are we blind also?"
41Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, "We see.' Therefore your sin remains.
So true. So clear. So concise. I like it!Buttermilk said:Science is the how
Creation Myth is the why
Then explain to me the genetic similarities of populations today? Explain to me the trend we witness in the fossil record? Explain to me how light from supernovas are visible to us? Explain to me how we don't see any isotopes with a halflife of over a million years? Or even 20,000?Crusadar said:Bushido216 said: So... if evolution is a big made-up lie... then God's creation should reflect that, right?
It does.
Then why does God's creation reflect an evolutionary world?
And it doesn't. God's creation points to God as its creator not the made up lie of evolution that man has given a place to in his heart - where the truth of the word of God should be instead.
Let me be sure I understand you correctly. You actually spoke to God and this is what God said. Can you document that in any way? Can you explain why God says something completely different in His Creation?Crusadar said:Been there done that, and God said that evolution is a myth
Crusadar, can you point to the data that shows evolution is wrong? Scientists have been looking for such data since 1848.Crusadar said:Bushido216 said: So... if evolution is a big made-up lie... then God's creation should reflect that, right?
It does.
Two different concepts here:Then why does God's creation reflect an evolutionary world?
And it doesn't. God's creation points to God as its creator not the made up lie of evolution that man has given a place to in his heart - where the truth of the word of God should be instead.
God already showed us the truth in His Creation. Jon, if you look thru statements made by creationists here, it is plain that they don't listen to God there.Jon said:1:
I understand the this the Christian Only Forum.
Christians all belive that there is one God, and that God created the universe. However all Christians don't agree on how God created the universe. That is the reason why I posted this thread. If we all ask God to show us the truth then we will not longer dissagree on these types of things.
None of these verses shows that prayer tells us how the universe was created or backs the position you want. They do assert that some prayers are answered in a physical manner, but not that knowledge is granted that way or that knowledge granted would counter the knowledge gained thru study of God's Creation.2:
Can you back this up?
why don't you goto the link at the bottom of the post and take a look at some verses that have the word pray in them.
http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?