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Maybe I've missed something, but I haven't seen anyone say that it's automatically a precursor to sexual assault.
Maybe I've missed something, but I haven't seen anyone say that it's automatically a precursor to sexual assault. But what I have seen here and elsewhere is that it tends to make women feel:
- Uncomfortable
- Unsafe
- Degraded
- Guarded
- Powerless
- Intimidated
I could probably go on, but you get the idea. None of these are criminal; none of these are automatically even physical. But they're all bad.
You (or men in general) don't get to decide the totality of this situation.
No, we're not saying it's automatically wrong.
We're saying it's not automatically right, that it often isn't right, and that men ought to be aware of that and judge the person and the context before engaging in behaviour which is - as noted - threatening, intimidating, etc.
Or, we do what we actually did, raise awareness about drunk driving, promote use of cabs and designated drivers, tell people that we need to stop that guy that is obviously drunk from getting behind the wheel. Alcohol isn't the culprit, it's how alcohol is used that is the culprit. You can drink until you pass out, just don't get behind the wheel.
Likewise, there is no issue with a man approaching a woman to ask her out on a date; however, soliciting a woman on the street, is not the most appropriate time.
Go to a bar, nightclub or some other social activity, not on the street.
Yeah?
Kaepernick denies giving Travis Scott blessing to perform at Super Bowl - sports - att.net
Now, I don't really know who Travis Scott is...country singer is my guess...but I think we can all agree, he doesn't really need Kaepernick's approval to perform at the Super Bowl does he?
Yet, look at what Colin's wife says...
"If you’re with them, then you are definitely not with us. "
So without any real discussion...Travis Scott is now "part of the problem". No....they didn't ask him his position on police brutality. No....they didn't ask his position on anything. That's the core of virtue signaling....its just to create a "us vs them" mentality so that you can promote yourself while bashing others.
Nobody needs Kaepernick's "blessing" to work with the NFL.
No, we're not saying it's automatically wrong.
We're saying it's not automatically right, that it often isn't right, and that men ought to be aware of that and judge the person and the context before engaging in behaviour which is - as noted - threatening, intimidating, etc.
No, we're not saying it's automatically wrong.
...before engaging in behaviour which is - as noted - threatening, intimidating, etc.
And which of those instances were a positive use of force? Can’t we all agree that in a civil society not at war, most use of violence or force by civilians is wrong? Why would you have a problem with an ad discouraging aggression?
This is you drawing a direct comparison to catcalling and drunk driving. The problem isn't that drunk driving is inappropriate....it's dangerous....always.
To compare it to catcalling....which is "inappropriate" in your opinion....is nonsense. It's not dangerous...and it's certainly not illegal.
Travis Scott is an up-and-coming rap (is that the right genre?) artist. All 17 tracks of the album he released last year hit the Billboard Hot 100, with the song "Sicko Mode" hitting #1 for a single week.
I ended up highlighting him in one of my "year in review" columns as a highlight of the year since I can't recall anyone pulling off another chart feat like what he did.
Or perhaps a different way of putting it...
There are ways of hitting on women in public or even "catcalling" that don't end in any form of assault, any form of harassment, or any form of them being uncomfortable.
However, there is no way to get drunk and drive a car, without the end result being drunk driving.
...and thus, I think that puts the "this is just like taking your drunk friends keys away" argument to bed. They'll have to come up with something else.
PS: I think this is the first time you and I have been on the same side of a debate on CF in almost 8 months lol
It's hard to imagine another motivation. Can you imagine any possible way that kneeling for the anthem during a football game would ever affect "police brutality"?
...actually, I'm sure you've noticed that I'm very pro-choice. It's not an abortion thing. It was a meme someone made directly to respond to ads like the Gillette one.
Just to make sure we have things in proper context. I didn't say assaults are rare (in fact, DOJ data would imply they're far too common).
It was a protest . Isn't this country founded upon protest against oppessive power ?
And as I noted, protest did appear to make a difference in the cause he championed.
Well, for one, they would recognize that women are not the only party to an abortion ... there are also "fathers" and doctors ...
There's plenty of ways that he could really have made a difference....from volunteering his time with inner city youths, to fundraising, etc. Instead, he chooses to do what will garner him the most attention and praise.
(because Colin can't possibly affect police brutality by kneeling during the anthem anymore than Gillette can affect sexual assault with a commercial lol)
You agree that people can dislike or disagree with the commercial and it has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not they are a moral person, right?
I mean, if I went and urinated on MLK's grave....and live streamed it to the public....and told people that it was a protest of Venezuela's government....you'd be right to question my motives.
I must've missed that....which post?
Really ???
Is it your contention that Kaepernick's chosen course had NOTHING to o with registering a protest against unnecessary police killing of blacks ?
You think that his motivation was to get attention and praise ?
Wasn't being a quarterback in the NFL a better shot at that ?
Kaepernicks's chosen course of action got him booted from the NFL, something I'd assume he enjoyed being a part of. But protestors will do that.
Martin Luther did it ... as did Martin Luther King Jr.
This is an opinion ... and not a particularly good one ...
I like this commercial because it mostly agrees with my feelings on the subject.
Consequently, ... I can really ONLY IMAGINE why someone wouldn't like it.
I have experienced that people can have very strong feelings that don't agree with my feelings. Fortunately, we live in a society where we can advocate for our views.
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