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First the Schism Between East and West, Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic. Then the Schism between Catholic and Protestant. And now Protestants heading back to the roots of the Church before the Splits?
(Note: I dont know much of the Eastern Orthodox, but i believe they are not too much in contrast with Protestants... being that the common cause of both splits is the papacy)
There seems to be this invisible movement going around. I don't want to emphasize too much on it, or else it becomes just another Established religion. In other words it is a good thing. I just want to make sure i am seeing the right thing.
I have noticed a Calvinist who calls himself a Reformed calvinist. I have seen a Baptist who calls himself a Reformed Baptist, and i myself am a Pentacostal but a Reformed pentacostal. I have also noticed Christians who are Non-denominational. What does this mean?
First there was the Christians, Then there was a Split, which became Catholic and Orthodox. First Reformed Christian group. Because the Christians were doing this "Pope" doctrine, and the Orthodox did not follow Exactly a "pope" doctrine. They had Fathers or Elders but not with so much power as a Pope. Then Martin Luther also felt that this "pope" doctrine was not heading in the right direction. But Instead he created a whole Reformation movement, which then Made his followers Protestants. a Second Reformed Christian group. Then we have Protestants who are re-reforming? is this the Third Reformed group?
Actually Christianity is a REFORMATION of Judaism. a Christian is simply a reformed Jew. this then helps me understand why Jesus never uses the Word Christian, and the Word Christian is never used in Revelation.
Christianity then strayed so far from its roots that it totally seperated from Judaism.
until now.
Could the Third Reformed Christian Group be what i think it is? is it The Church that existed in the First Century? Could we be heading back to our roots? Is the Coming of the Lord sooner than we think?
First i need to understand.
What exactly do Non-denominational Christians believe in?
do Reformed Catholics Still believe that only the Pope has all Authority and makes the final decision of our own souls?
the following is what i feel the Reformed christians believe in (atleast the basic):
I nam not trying to establish this movement, only that As sincere Christians, There must be something that links us all together.
(1) Christ Jesus is our only Lord and savior.
(2) Baptism and Last Supper are unchanging.
(I think we should go over the meanings of the Baptism and Last Supper. The Spiritual and Physical meaning of these two are the precise point of conflict)
(3) Father Son and Holy Spirit, The Son is the Word.
(4) The Church is a Spiritual Body- not a Physical Building- with Jesus as the head.
(5) The Gospel should be simple enough for a 5 year old to understand
(who knows, a simple doctrine of what it is to be a Christian can come in handy. With our children becoming extremely uneducated. The meaning of Christianity will diminish with our diminishing intellect. I feel that Christianity is not ONLY for the "Scolars", therefore the uneducated should not be excluded. Actually Jesus himself was not a Pharisee or Saduccee. He gave simple lessons with sound parables, and did not confuse his listeners with Huge vocabulary and complex sentences. But it turns out that the Intelligent Wise Lawyers [Pharisees and sadducees] Did not understand the parables, yet the lesson was understood by a child. I believe we should have better schools, at the same time i believe being a christian shouldnt be confusing.)
(6) The Bible is the Basis for distinguishing the Voice of the Holy Spirit.
(There is a reason why God sent the Holy Spirit. I am not saying that the bible should be abolished. Instead it is further understood once we learn to distinguish the voice of the Holy Spirit. Much confusion has been caused because we have not learned the significance of the Spirit. Many christians have not understood the difference between the Word of God and the words of Man. and At the Same time the Spirit has been opening our eyes, creating all these reformed Christians, until there is one unified body of christians. Therefore, In order to know if it is the Spirit speaking or not, we must test our doctrines against the Bible. Which is why the Bible is the basis for understanding. The Bible is the first Witness of Truth, the Second Witness of Truth is in our hearts. But first we must understand the bible before we start listening to our hearts. the Holy Spirit will Guide us to all truth. The Holy Spirit is our Final Authority.)
(7) the New Covenant has already began. refer to Jeremiah 30 and on.
As for bible translation i would like a Bible that goes directly to the Hebrew Aramaic and Greek translations.
Because there are Hebrew Aramaic and Greek words that have many meanings when translated into English. Words such as Fear and Fear have two meaning, one of terror the other of respect. Its not exactly the meaning of the word but the common usage of the word that confuses us.
What do you guys think?
(Note: I dont know much of the Eastern Orthodox, but i believe they are not too much in contrast with Protestants... being that the common cause of both splits is the papacy)
There seems to be this invisible movement going around. I don't want to emphasize too much on it, or else it becomes just another Established religion. In other words it is a good thing. I just want to make sure i am seeing the right thing.
I have noticed a Calvinist who calls himself a Reformed calvinist. I have seen a Baptist who calls himself a Reformed Baptist, and i myself am a Pentacostal but a Reformed pentacostal. I have also noticed Christians who are Non-denominational. What does this mean?
First there was the Christians, Then there was a Split, which became Catholic and Orthodox. First Reformed Christian group. Because the Christians were doing this "Pope" doctrine, and the Orthodox did not follow Exactly a "pope" doctrine. They had Fathers or Elders but not with so much power as a Pope. Then Martin Luther also felt that this "pope" doctrine was not heading in the right direction. But Instead he created a whole Reformation movement, which then Made his followers Protestants. a Second Reformed Christian group. Then we have Protestants who are re-reforming? is this the Third Reformed group?
Actually Christianity is a REFORMATION of Judaism. a Christian is simply a reformed Jew. this then helps me understand why Jesus never uses the Word Christian, and the Word Christian is never used in Revelation.
Christianity then strayed so far from its roots that it totally seperated from Judaism.
until now.
Could the Third Reformed Christian Group be what i think it is? is it The Church that existed in the First Century? Could we be heading back to our roots? Is the Coming of the Lord sooner than we think?
First i need to understand.
What exactly do Non-denominational Christians believe in?
do Reformed Catholics Still believe that only the Pope has all Authority and makes the final decision of our own souls?
the following is what i feel the Reformed christians believe in (atleast the basic):
I nam not trying to establish this movement, only that As sincere Christians, There must be something that links us all together.
(1) Christ Jesus is our only Lord and savior.
(2) Baptism and Last Supper are unchanging.
(I think we should go over the meanings of the Baptism and Last Supper. The Spiritual and Physical meaning of these two are the precise point of conflict)
(3) Father Son and Holy Spirit, The Son is the Word.
(4) The Church is a Spiritual Body- not a Physical Building- with Jesus as the head.
(5) The Gospel should be simple enough for a 5 year old to understand
(who knows, a simple doctrine of what it is to be a Christian can come in handy. With our children becoming extremely uneducated. The meaning of Christianity will diminish with our diminishing intellect. I feel that Christianity is not ONLY for the "Scolars", therefore the uneducated should not be excluded. Actually Jesus himself was not a Pharisee or Saduccee. He gave simple lessons with sound parables, and did not confuse his listeners with Huge vocabulary and complex sentences. But it turns out that the Intelligent Wise Lawyers [Pharisees and sadducees] Did not understand the parables, yet the lesson was understood by a child. I believe we should have better schools, at the same time i believe being a christian shouldnt be confusing.)
(6) The Bible is the Basis for distinguishing the Voice of the Holy Spirit.
(There is a reason why God sent the Holy Spirit. I am not saying that the bible should be abolished. Instead it is further understood once we learn to distinguish the voice of the Holy Spirit. Much confusion has been caused because we have not learned the significance of the Spirit. Many christians have not understood the difference between the Word of God and the words of Man. and At the Same time the Spirit has been opening our eyes, creating all these reformed Christians, until there is one unified body of christians. Therefore, In order to know if it is the Spirit speaking or not, we must test our doctrines against the Bible. Which is why the Bible is the basis for understanding. The Bible is the first Witness of Truth, the Second Witness of Truth is in our hearts. But first we must understand the bible before we start listening to our hearts. the Holy Spirit will Guide us to all truth. The Holy Spirit is our Final Authority.)
(7) the New Covenant has already began. refer to Jeremiah 30 and on.
As for bible translation i would like a Bible that goes directly to the Hebrew Aramaic and Greek translations.
Because there are Hebrew Aramaic and Greek words that have many meanings when translated into English. Words such as Fear and Fear have two meaning, one of terror the other of respect. Its not exactly the meaning of the word but the common usage of the word that confuses us.
What do you guys think?
