Rant!!

[Jon_]

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[Antman_05]

I feel my Passion come back i feel the Power coming back, Wow Glory to God, i was brought up in the old school, when you called a Demon out it had to come out !!

The times coming for the Neo Christians to walk in God's power over sin and death, no more shall we to call Demons to come out, rather they see us coming and will flee. Time for Christians to stop sinning let the Love of God controll them, and let the Lord show his power once more.

 

[constance]

Sigh. There aren't any Cotton Mather preachers now, Why?

Constance

 

[cygnusx1]

Sigh. There aren't any Cotton Mather preachers now, Why?

Constance

was he the guy who got charged with Antinomianism ........ I know it was a Cotton .

 

[cygnusx1]

ahhhhhh , just found this , they were closely related

They believed they had direct communion with God, that He spoke to their hearts. With this direct knowledge of God and his laws, they did not need any written laws. Specifically, they did not need written rules about sacraments or the means of grace. The word antinomian means "against law" from "anti" and from the Greek "nomos", which is usually "law" but also has other meanings.

Needless to say, antinomians could come across as pretty self-righteous. They were especially hard for Puritans to deal with because many parts of Puritan doctrine seemed to support the antinomian arguments. For example, Anne Hutchinson was an antinomian and used sermons by John Cotton (Cotton Mather's maternal g'father) to justify her actions. Cotton disavowed her shortly before she was banished. I actually kind of sympathize with the Puritans here -- our present world doesn't make me very comfortable with people claiming a hotline to God.

http://www.atpobtvs.com/existentialscoobies/archives/mar02_p16.html

 

[JJB]

There is one thing that I appreciate about the Catholic church: It has retained a biblical stance on social issues.

So many of the reformed churches cave-in and crumble to the whinings and calls for modernization presented by the Spirit of the Age -- that's why I don't attend a reformed church at present. I have to take my Calvinist leanings elsewhere.

 

[Bulldog]

So many of the reformed churches cave-in and crumble to the whinings and calls for modernization presented by the Spirit of the Age -- that's why I don't attend a reformed church at present. I have to take my Calvinist leanings elsewhere.

I think that the number of truly Reformed churches who do take a Biblical stance on moral issues, far outways the truly Reformed ones that don't. I don't believe that the Roman Catholic church has a completly Biblical stance on morals, for example I don't believe that contraception is a sin.

 

[JJB]

I think that the number of truly Reformed churches who do take a Biblical stance on moral issues, far outways the truly Reformed ones that don't. I don't believe that the Roman Catholic church has a completly Biblical stance on morals, for example I don't believe that contraception is a sin.

Well, I find that news about the truly Reformed churches to be good. However, the town I live in has none, zip, zilch, nada!

I did not say that I agree with everything the RC teaches, but they have held steady ground publically regarding issues of life: abortion, euthenasia and the likes.

Our household has a rule: if you say something bad about someone (gossip or badmouthing), we need to ask for forgiveness and then say something we like about them. Perhaps I was bringing our rule into this thread......

 

[Jon_]

Antinomianism: http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=15540681&postcount=9

Soli Deo Gloria

Jon

 

[HiredGoon]

I understand that back in the Olden Days of CF that there used to be one PRE (Protestant/Reformed/Evangelical?) forum for all non-Catholics... is there any hope that a similar forum might be available for theological/historical/ecumenical discussion?

If one more person calls me a heretic or apostate, I'm gonna flip.

Ahhh, the olden days....that was less than a year ago IIRC.

We've got all these denominational threads now because people kept complaining that they couldn't discuss specific issues without being called a heretic or apostate.

Oh well.

 

[Bulldog]

Ahhh, the olden days....that was less than a year ago IIRC.

We've got all these denominational threads now because people kept complaining that they couldn't discuss specific issues without being called a heretic or apostate.

Oh well.

Yeah. First the Lutherans wanted a forum because they felt they were diferent enough from most mainstream Protestants, and then everyone wanted a new forum (inclduding many Reformed people, like me, I think).

According to the forum, the first post here was on May 3, so it's now been a a little over a year.

 

[JJB]

Antinomianism: http://www.christianforums.com/show...681&postcount=9

 

[thereselittleflower]

Generally when a protestant starts to prove a point...or just bring up a valid argument, the thread does get shut down. Which stinks because usually that is just the point the truth was about to come out and questions wouild have been answered.

I have genuine questions becuase there are somethings about the Catholic faith I find right on target scripturally and they have a very beautiful way of looking at some things. HOWEVER in my quest for answers I usually have an "issue " I would like explained. (You know some of the things that were found to be a corruption by certain fathers of the protestant movement.) Several of them (not all members of OBOB by any means) take this as a debate and shut the thread down.

I would just like to be educated before I say I do or don't want to attend a catholic church. But it is impossible to hear both sides ther as they shut it down if both sides are revealed.

I'd like to know exactly what Luther changed and why. I would like to know why protestants think these ideas should have been removed while catholics think they should have remained. But you simply cannot find out there without ticking somone off.

May I suggest starting a thread in the Denominational Debate area for just Reformed and Catholics to have these discussions. It seems a much more appropriate place to have them than in OBOB if what you want is the ability to challange so you can better understand . . I believe this was why that forum was given, but I don't think it is used much.




Peace

 

[Rolf Ernst]

The really sad thing about such doctrinal conflict is that there are too many who will never regard the truth plainly stated. Truth is not their aim, and they will pursue their aims in spite of the truth clearly set before them. Correct their errors, and they will quickly repeat them, as if error destroys truth.

 

[cygnusx1]

The really sad thing about such doctrinal conflict is that there are too many who will never regard the truth plainly stated. Truth is not their aim, and they will pursue their aims in spite of the truth clearly set before them. Correct their errors, and they will quickly repeat them, as if error destroys truth.

how right you are Rolf , it took me a while before I realised prejudice has more to do with many arguements than genuinely looking for answers..... that is why I seldom go into General Apologetics now ..... most there have an aggenda , to argue that there is no God and to sit smuggly on a lie.