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Hoping for your safe return Brother .....


I was reading your posts Wheeler and thinking how the scribes , Pharriesses were under the natural law and Judged according to the flesh Jesus come to Judge the world in righteouness causing the blind to see Him the body of Christ / church


as living works of the law of Love and Gods mercy and grace and those who say they see make blind Saul / Paul was one whom the prophecy was being fulfilled in


on the road to Damascus in Acts 9 Saul /Paul was blinded by TRUTH / Jesus Christ

Light in the world and we can see how these writtings / body of works by Paul further revealed Christ Light / knowledge of Him in the world spreading the goodnews of the gospel of Jesus Christ fulfilling even more in the Spriit of prophecy which is the testimony of Jesus Christ


looking as to the enemies mouths being stopped/ silenced ,still and all become guilty before God




16 And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say?

And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?


Psa 8:2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.


this judging the hearts and hate towards anything they do not understand are still in darkness , being a Light to the gentiles is revealing the living Body of Christ and to be apart of this new and living body by the regenerating of the Holy Spirit dwelling in us


teaching us HIS TRUTH in righteousness of God


YES THE CARNAL MIND CANNOT DISCERN THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT SPIRITUAL THINGS WITH SPIRITUAL YOU GOT TO HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST TO BE ABLE , THIS GIFT OF GOD by the Holy Spirit dwelling within you this is on earth as it is in heaven having this peace , joy and Holy Spirit you now becoming the temple of the Living God


right here and right now as God draws us near Him though His Son / living Body of believers and doers so ''church is everywhere the Spirit teaches as Jesus/ the love of God is in our midst ''


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Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.



1Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches;


comparing spiritual things with spiritual

.But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:



neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned

But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. .

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him?

But we have the mind of Christ.

Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:


Col 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard [it], do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that you might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;



Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

peace C
 
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Hi Chickapee,



Thank you for your kind words. I had guests here...which left me no time for study or typing.


The Son of Man shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. The “holy angels” are the words of the Scriptures as interpreted by the Spirit of Truth….they are the words of Moses (Moses is an “angel”…a messenger of the Truth in the correct understanding) as interpreted by the Lord (WHO IS THE TRUTH) ….they are the words of all the Prophets as interpreted by the Lord. The “holy angels” are the saints whose words will be saved from the mouth of the enemy….the roaring lion. The “lion” has taken the Scriptures and misinterpreted them for his own gain. The “lion” has devoured many Christians with his deceptions about what the Bible is truly saying. The “lion” has led many astray….into ruin and chasing after worldly things…..riches, denominations, hateful thoughts and practices, etc, etc. As Paul tells us, the Lord will stand with him and strengthen him. The Lord will come and properly interpret Paul’s words…..epistles… for us. Paul will become a “holy angel” with all the rest of the saints of the Bible….a messenger of the Truth of God who will make fully known to the Gentiles the eternal gospel of the Truth….. “that all the Gentiles might hear”…..to fully understand Paul’s letters in their heavenly meanings. He will be delivered out of the “mouth of the lion”….out of the understanding of ungodly men who seek to deceive…to devour the sheep with their teachings. When the Lord stands and strengthens the Scriptures with the Truth….then we may FULLY KNOW them and their messages that point us into the Truth, the Way of righteousness and the Life.

(2 Tim 4:17 KJV) Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

The Lord shall deliver Paul’s words and all of the words of the Scriptures out of every evil work. The lion has devoured many in the church with works based on the earthly understanding of the Bible. Their works are evil works….based on man’s leaning upon his own wisdom. The Scriptures have been misused by ungodly men who have completely “missed the mark” of the Truth.

18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Satan, as a roaring lion, walks about seeking those he may devour.

(1 Pet 5:8 KJV) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

His “angels” are the messengers of error…..the literal, surface, earthly understanding of the Bible that man uses to deceive. They lean upon their own wisdom. The “messengers” devour those who fall for their deceptions. His ministers preach in pulpits….leading those who hear them down the wrong path. They lead them away from love for each other…they lead them away from the Truth…they divide people into denominations…they make war with those who don’t agree with their particular interpretations. Satan is transformed into an “angel of light”….a messenger of earthly wisdom of the Bible. His power of darkness is based on the literal letter of the Scriptures which man has fallen for. Man has taken the surface understanding of the Bible as the true Light and produced works that they consider righteousness.

(2 Cor 11:14 KJV) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

His ministers are the words of the Bible which are interpreted in error. His ministers are men who are preachers who adhere to error in order to gather unjust gain. They corrupt the Word of God.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

The “lion” are the many who corrupt the Word of God for earthly things….they do not preach it with sincerity.

(2 Cor 2:17 KJV) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

They are the “strong bulls” of Bashan (meaning the “light soil”) who have beset around the Scriptures and have misinterpreted it with their erroneous teachings….they have “gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.” They have devoured the words of Moses, the Prophets and the apostles with error and have led many astray by their wrongful teachings.

(Psa 22:12 KJV) Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

They have been wicked rulers over the poor people….over those who do not know any better…who rely upon their pastors’ teachings as Truth.

(Prov 28:15 KJV) As a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; so is a wicked ruler over the poor people.

The preachers of error are princes over the poor sheep who lack true understanding of the Bible….they rely upon their own wisdom…they are “great oppressors” who corrupt the Word of God for their own covetousness.

16 The prince that wanteth understanding is also a great oppressor: but he that hateth covetousness shall prolong his days.

But the Lord comes to strengthen the words of the saints….He comes to rescue the words of the Bible out of the roaring, erroneous teachings of the “lion.” Like Samson’s strength, so will the Word of God become strong….powerful…quick….against those who will resist the Truth when it is revealed. As we see in Judges, “Samson” went down to the vineyards of “Timnath” where the young lion roared against him. All a prophecy for today….. “Samson” means “sun”….the sun of righteousness….the knowledge and wisdom of God descends out of heaven and comes to “Timnath” which means “allotted portion.” The words of the saints of the Bible will receive their allotted portion by the revealing of the Truth of God through them…..which makes the Word of God powerful and quick against those who will roar against their testimony. No longer will the lion have power to devour the poor.

(Judg 14:5 KJV) Then went Samson down, and his father and his mother, to Timnath, and came to the vineyards of Timnath: and, behold, a young lion roared against him.

The Spirit of the Lord will come mightily upon the Scriptures. The Spirit of Truth will guide us into all understanding. He will unbraid the teachings of the goats.... “rent a young goat.”

6 And the spirit of the LORD came mightily upon him, and he rent him as he would have rent a kid, and he had nothing in his hand: but he told not his father or his mother what he had done.

Out of the body of the Scriptures will be seen the revealed Truth….as Samson saw a “swarm of bees and honey” in the body of the lion. The Scriptures, which were distorted and twisted by unlearned and unstable men for their own covetousness (the lion,) will instead show forth the True sayings of God….the “honey.” Their words will be assembled in the Truth….the “swarm of bees”…the words will be arranged with the wisdom of God.

(Judg 14:8 KJV) And after a time he returned to take her, and he turned aside to see the carcase of the lion: and, behold, there was a swarm of bees and honey in the carcase of the lion.
9 And he took thereof in his hands, and went on eating, and came to his father and mother, and he gave them, and they did eat: but he told not them that he had taken the honey out of the carcase of the lion.

The shepherds will have their pasture spoiled….by the revealing of the Truth. Their erroneous teachings of the Bible will be destroyed by the Truth. No longer will the poor of the flock of God be deceived…but they will be delivered from ungodly men in the pulpits of the church.

(Jer 25:36 KJV) A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard: for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.
37 And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD.
38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger.

The Son of Man comes with his “holy angels.” The “holy angels” are all of the people of the Scriptures and their spiritual testimony. They will speak the wisdom and knowledge of God in the kingdom of heaven…..they will be rescued from the mouth of the lion who has devoured them with his own understanding. The mouth of the lion has taught lies with the misinterpretation of the Bible. As we see in Mark, those who would see the kingdom of God come with power were Peter, James, and John. They saw a literal event that has a greater spiritual meaning. They saw the interpretation of the Scriptures….the transformation of them to the shining Truth in God’s wisdom and knowledge. The Word of God will come speak to us in a new song today…..and we are not to be ashamed of that Word. Jesus is the TRUTH…the TRUTH of the Bible.

(Mark 8:38 KJV) Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

The Son of Man comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. The “holy angels” were on that mountain in the presence of James, Peter and John….they were Elijah and Moses….the Writings of Moses with the Prophets will shine with new meaning with the interpretation of the Lord…..in the glory of the Father. they will "talk" with Jesus who will properly interpret them in righteousness and the wisdom of God. Jesus is the Truth.

4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

The Son of Man shall come in the glory of his Father with the “angels”…the messengers of the Truth and shall reward every man according to his works concerning how they will receive the Truth....either in love for the Truth or in resistance to it.

(Mat 16:27 KJV) For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

To those who believe the Word of God in the shining Truth when we hear it, we share in the inheritance in the saints.

(Eph 1:17 KJV) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

We become like the “angels of God in heaven.” We will understand the Scriptures with the understanding of Christ….in the power of God. We will preach them in understanding…..we become the messengers of God in the Truth with the saints.

(Mat 22:29 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

As the knowledge of God is increased for us, we will shine as the stars….turning many to righteousness through the preaching of the Scriptures in sincerity…. in the revealed Truth…..Christ Jesus.

(Dan 12:3 KJV) And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

We become the living epistle to be known and read of all men. We have our inheritance in the saints….we will preach their message in Truth….we will live their message in the Truth of our Lord Jesus Christ….who is the Truth.

(2 Cor 3:2 KJV) Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

To be continued….
 
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Great to see you back Wheeler :)
Just stopped in and surprise !

I Am reading your latest post ... Its sounds wonderful becoming a living epistle ! in the Living Body of Christ Alive and the Spirit of God moving us out of sleep


Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law.
Rom 13:11And that, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep: for now [is] our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Let us walk honestly,

as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.


But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to [fulfil] the lusts [thereof].

peace in the Lord Jesus ... C
 
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Our Father makes us to be competent in the appointed time to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in Light. He gives us the ability to understand and teach the Word of God in the Light of Christ Jesus….in the wisdom and knowledge of God. The “saints” are all of the witnesses of the Bible that are written. The saints are also those who will believe in the revelation of the Truth that will come from the words of the saints of the Bible that will speak through Christ Jesus at the appointed time. They will shine with meaning….in the Light of Christ Jesus.

(Col1:12 KJV) Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

He will deliver us from the power of darkness….from men who have kept us in their prisons of darkness (denominations) by their unlearned and unstable teachings by the distorting and twisting of the Scriptures. The Scriptures also will be delivered from the power of darkness (from those that distort them) and will be “translated” into the kingdom of His Son.

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

We have forgiveness of sins….from “missing the mark” of the Truth.

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

The Lord comes with “ten thousands”…or myriads….of His saints. His saints are all of the testimonies of the saints of the Bible. Abel is a saint….Abraham is a saint….David is a saint….Jacob is a saint…..Paul is a saint, etc. Their words and deeds as written in the Bible will be “translated” into a spiritual message in Christ Jesus. They are to be transformed from literal, historical written words to a spiritual message for today that directs us into the Truth, Way and Life. The “saints” are the “holy angels” who will speak God’s message in the appointed time.

(Jude 1:14 KJV) And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Their message will execute judgment upon all. The Word of God will become quick and powerful against those who will oppose and contradict. By our words will we be judged. How will we handle the Truth when the Lord comes with His myriads of saints?

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

The Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his “mighty angels”…..the saints’ words of the Bible that will be transformed into a spiritual gospel for us today. The Scriptures will be opened up for our understanding….and we are to obey the Truth when we hear it.

(2 Th 1:7 KJV) And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

There will be some who will not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. It is his revelation of the Truth of the Bible that we are to hear and obey.

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

He comes to be glorified in his saints…..all of the saints of the Bible will have their testimonies transformed into showing Christ through every jot and tittle that is recorded.

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

In Psalms 68:17, we find the “chariots of God” are “twenty thousand”….or myriads. “Thousands of angels:”

(Psa 68:17 KJV) The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

The word for “angels” here is “shin'an” which means “to alter, change, repetition.” Every word of the Bible will be “changed” into the Truth of our Lord Jesus Christ…who is the Truth. Their message…the gospel of the Lord…..is repeated. There will be myriads of changes….repetitions of the eternal gospel throughout all of the Scriptures. The message has always been there…it is the mind of man that will finally have understanding in the mind of Christ. Our Lord gives us the gift of understanding. He has given the people of the Bible gifts. Their lives will preach the eternal gospel in a new meaning…in Christ Jesus. Even the recorded rebellious of the Scriptures have their testimonies recorded for our benefit. The rebellious are given gifts too…. they too give a message of God…..they are “angels” also.

18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.

They serve as examples of the judgment of those who should live continue to live ungodly after receiving of the full knowledge of the Truth. The people of Sodom and Gomorrah are “angels” who sinned in times past but also speak God’s message of judgment for us today.

(2 Pet 2:4 KJV) For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


Those of the “old world” are also “angels” even though they were not spared…..telling us today to listen to the Preacher of the Truth….Christ Jesus who reveals God’s knowledge in righteousness. They serve God by being the example for today of those who will oppose and contradict the revealed Truth when it comes.

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

Those people who came out of the land of Egypt and did not believe and were destroyed are also “angels”….they speak a message for us today through Christ Jesus. We are to believe in the revelation of Christ Jesus….who opens the Scriptures to our understanding…with his “holy and mighty angels.”

(Jude 1:5 KJV) I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

Cain is also an “angel”….so is Balaam…so is Korah. Their testimony of their rebellion is for us today….they are messengers of the judgment of God against those who will not believe….who will resist and oppose the Truth. God’s Truth even dwells among the written records of the rebellious of the Bible. They are all “angels” or messengers of Truth….eyewitnesses of the judgment of God.

(Jude 1:11 KJV) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Today, our Lord is revealing the Truth of the Scriptures….we are to receive the love of the Truth. We are to receive the full “knowledge of the Truth.” How will religious man handle the Truth? Will we continue in our transgressions of missing the mark?

(Heb 10:26 KJV) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:


How much more worse will our punishment be today if we disregard and oppose that revealed Truth when it comes through all of His saints….His mighty and holy “angels” who will speak the words of Christ. The punishment will be much worse than Sodom and Gomorrah’s……much worse than Cain’s….much worse than all of the “angels” who sinned in times past and serve as examples for us today…..much worse than the Jewish leaders who despised Moses’ Law and rejected the testimony of God and His Son. We have been given His Spirit.

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Our Lord comes in the Scriptures through the revelation of the Truth…to do the will of God.

(Heb 10:7 KJV) Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

He comes to do the will of God in earth….He comes with all of His holy angels…He comes in the revelation of the spiritual meaning of thewords of the saints of the Bible….in the volume of the book that is written of him.

(Mat 6:10 KJV) Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

The “angels” are the prophets of the Bible as it shows in Hebrews. God spoke through them to the fathers at “sundry times and in divers manners”….in other words, He spoke through them in parts and in many ways. They are the “messengers” of God…the “angels.”

(Heb 1:1 KJV) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

But in these “last days,” He speaks to us by His Son….who is the spiritual Truth of the words of the prophets. Christ unites all of the words of the Scriptures in one mind (understanding) and one Spirit….the Spirit of Truth.

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

He is made much better than the “angels” or prophets of the Bible. He unites the entire Word of God….He is the Word of God spoken in Truth.

4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

All of the “angels of God” worship Him. All of the people of the Bible….their recorded messages and deeds….will show a greater meaning in the revelation of Christ Jesus. They will be used to show the eternal gospel and plan of God….they will show that God exists and that all things have been done according to His foreknowledge. All of the Scriptures will reflect this….all has been a prophecy….shown in times past as historical events but in a greater depth of understanding show us a special relevance of salvation for today.

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Moses, Abraham, Abel, etc….everyone recorded in the Bible….are the “angels” who are made spirits. Their message is taken from the literal, historical, earthly, plain meaning and changed into the spiritual message of Christ Jesus. They worship God in speaking forth this message.

7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

They are “ministering spirits” sent forth to minister to us….the heirs of salvation. We become partakers with them by preaching their message in Christ Jesus.

(Heb 1:14 KJV) Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

The Son of Man shall send forth his messengers…..

(Mat 13:41 KJV) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

Hebrews makes it clear that the prophets of the Bible that God spoke through are the “angels.”

(Heb 2:1 KJV) Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

The word spoken by the “angels” or prophets were steadfast. When Israel did not listen, every transgression and disobedience received a just “recompense of reward.” When they did not listen to the “angels” of God, they were punished. Think Babylon…think Assyria, etc. Their words, actions and judgments were recorded for our benefit….they will show us the Truth, Way and Life. They will instruct us into His righteousness.

2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward;

Christ Jesus comes to reveal His words through those very words of the prophets…the “angels.” He will speak GREATER things than they. Their words will be “transfigured” into His words in a much deeper spiritual meaning. We are not to neglect so great a salvation. Remember the past examples.

3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
 
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Hi Wheeler after reading your last 2 posts , the first one being men who devour as satan is also a roaring lion in nature

1Pe 5:8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:


I have considered the lions in Ezek 19


may have some bearing also
as those ''princes'' being judged and also
significant as the beastly natures of men with carnal minds ,bulls of bashan .

what do you think ?Ezekiel 19


1Moreover take thou up a lamentation for the princes of Israel,
2And say, What is thy mother? A lioness: she lay down among lions, she nourished her whelps among young lions.
3And she brought up one of her whelps: it became a young lion, and it learned to catch the prey; it devoured men.
4The nations also heard of him; he was taken in their pit, and they brought him with chains unto the land of Egypt.
5Now when she saw that she had waited, and her hope was lost, then she took another of her whelps, and made him a young lion.
6And he went up and down among the lions, he became a young lion, and learned to catch the prey, and devoured men.
7And he knew their desolate palaces, and he laid waste their cities; and the land was desolate, and the fulness thereof, by the noise of his roaring.
8Then the nations set against him on every side from the provinces, and spread their net over him: he was taken in their pit. 9And they put him in ward in chains, and brought him to the king of Babylon: they brought him into holds, that his voice should no more be heard upon the mountains of Israel.

I was also thinking of what tribes were lions Gen 49:9Judah [is] a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

Deu 33:20And of Gad he said, Blessed [be] he that enlargeth Gad: he dwelleth as a lion, and teareth the arm with the crown of the head.
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Deu 33:22And of Dan he said, Dan [is] a lion's whelp: he shall leap from Bashan.


Jesus come out of the Lion Tribe of Judah



Rev 5:5And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

now you got looking into lions in the Bible ! its a very interesing study

thanks and Peace C
 
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The rulers in high places (in our churches) are pictured as "roaring lions." They seek whom they may devour with their mouths….with their deceitful words….preaching falsehoods from the Bible which come from leaning upon their own wisdom. There are many pastors today who are skilled in doing this…they catch their “prey” with their words. The devil uses his ministers to devour souls….to lead them through the wide gate and down the broad road to ruin. They keep the people of God from the True Life…..they lead those who listen to them away from love for one another to hateful ways and thoughts. There is forgiveness for such things….for we know not what we do.

(1 Pet 5:8 KJV) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

The “roaring lion” represents the wicked rulers (pastors, priests, false prophets, etc) who show no mercy to the oppressed poor people under them. The Hebrew words for “ranging bear” in Proverbs 28:15, also show us that they preach false doctrines out of covetousness….with feigned words…seeking to make merchandise of us.

(Prov 28:15 KJV) As a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; so is a wicked ruler over the poor people.

And again….the false “prophets” are like a roaring lion….ravening the prey (the flock of God.) They devour souls….they have taken the treasure and precious things (the things of the Scriptures) and have deceived many with their falsehoods….false doctrines.

(Ezek 22:25 KJV) There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.
26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

They are like wolves also….ravening the prey…destroying souls. And for what? To get dishonest gain. They corrupt the Word of God for their own covetousness.

27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.
28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.

They vex the spiritual poor and needy by misinterpreting the Word of God. They say “thus saith the Lord God, when the Lord hath not spoken.” They claim to be speaking the Truth of the Bible but the Truth had not been revealed by the Lord ….yet. They ran ahead of Christ…..not staying in the doctrine: to love one another.

29 The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.

Again…false prophets = ravening wolves = a roaring lion. There are many today preaching in the pulpits of our churches. They seek those whom they may devour with their feigned words. Many have fallen victim to their teachings….they are their prey.

(Mat 7:15 KJV) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Again….Paul warned us that grievous wolves would enter in among us and not spare the flock. Many of the flock would become prey to them.

(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

And the focus for the wolves/ lion? Man’s silver, gold or apparel. They covet after things…they misuse the Scriptures for a tool to earthly things from others.

33 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.

The “roaring lion” does not properly remember the words of the Lord Jesus….it is more blessed to give than receive.

35 I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

The wolf is a thief who enters in among us to steal, kill and destroy. Our Lord….the Truth…comes so that we might have Life…and to have it more abundantly.

(John 10:10 KJV) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


The wolf has come and caught many in the church….he has divided them up in denominations….scattering the sheep.

12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

The wolf or “roaring lion” handles the Word of God deceitfully…for dishonest gain…..the hidden things of dishonesty.

(2 Cor 4:2 KJV) But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

The “roaring lion” corrupts the Word of God for his own covetousness. The Greek word for “corrupt” here is “kapeleuo” which means “to retail, huckster.” There are MANY who do this in our churches:

(2 Cor 2:17 KJV) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

The “roaring lion” relies on his own understanding of the Bible to prove his point to those who know no better (taking advantage of the poor in spirit)…he seeks to make believers of them of his doctrines…..he seeks to make many of the flock his prisoners…he seeks to devour the souls who fall prey to him….he seeks to make merchandise of them. The “lion” is a beast of great strength.

(Prov 30:30 KJV) A lion which is strongest among beasts, and turneth not away for any;

The “lion” secretly lies in wait for the unaware among the flock. They pose as preachers of the Word….and their erroneous Bible teachings are the “net” by which they catch the spiritually poor….those who know no better....who put their trust in man for the correct Bible interpretation and blindly accept it.

(Psa 10:9 KJV) He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net.

The “poor” fall under the lions’ strength:

10 He croucheth, and humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones.

The many priests, pastors, reverends, preachers of error are like lions….greedy of their prey…lurking in “secret places.” They are the “wicked” as mentioned throughout the Bible. They are not the atheists of the world….the sinners of the outside world. They are those in front of us in the pulpits professing to be preachers of righteousness. Their real nature of who they are is unknown to the flock under their care. They lie in wait for their prey.

(Psa 17:12 KJV) Like as a lion that is greedy of his prey, and as it were a young lion lurking in secret places.

But the Lord will arise and cast him down…the Bible and the people of God will be delivered from their influences.

13 Arise, O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword:

They are “men of the world”….they mind the earthly things. They have had their portion in this life…..their reward in this life.

14 From men which are thy hand, O LORD, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.
15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.

They have their reward in this life…..those that do things for the glory of men. They seek glory from one another and not God. They glory in their ministries….they glory in their church plantings….they glory in their church buildings….they glory in their religious schools and institutions…they glory in their religious learning….they glory in their riches…they glory in their books…they glory in their music….they glory in the power they have over the flock….they glory in their good deeds which are done for the glory of men. They glory in all those things which will pass away. They have their reward is in this life. They will have no reward from the Father.

(Mat 6:2 KJV) Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

(Mat 6:5 KJV) And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

(Mat 6:16 KJV) Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Those who do all of their religious works for the glory of men….for the recognition and pride of men, have no reward of the Father which is in heaven.

(Mat 6:1 KJV) Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Our Lord comes to reveal the Truth….His words will properly interpret the Bible for us so that we may know our sins….and to be cleansed of our sins. Let us not be ashamed of the Truth and His words in this adulterous and sinful generation.

38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

We must forsake our “houses”….our churches and doctrines which are in error. We must cease from our own wisdom and receive the love for the Truth….Jesus is the Truth.

(Mat 19:29 KJV) And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

A body was prepared….not only the physical body of Jesus, but also all of those people of the Scriptures…they are a part of his body. In the “volume of the book it is written of me.” The Scriptures themselves are a part of the sacrifice for our sins. All of our missing of the mark of the Truth has been in ignorance of the Scripture of Truth.

(Heb 10:5 KJV) Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

Turning to Psalms 22…we see the theme of the “lion.” The ravening and “roaring lion” has “ gaped” upon the Scriptures (the body that was prepared as a sacrifice for sin) with their mouths…they have distorted and twisted them with their earthly-based teachings. They only understand the “letter” of the Scriptures.

(Psa 22:13 KJV) They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

They are poured out like water….all the bones are out of joint. Men have corrupted the Word of God with their teachings (the “water)….the unlearned and unstable wrest all of the Scriptures….everything is out of joint.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

Because of the lack of Truth being taught by the ravening, roaring lion…the strength of the Scriptures is “dried”….the Hebrew word means “to be ashamed, confused.” They preach confusion…..earthly things based on earthly understanding….the “dust of death.”

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

They are the “dogs” who have compassed the Scriptures with their erroneous teachings….they have made the Bible say what they want it to say….not what it really is saying. They “pierced” his hands and his feet. The Hebrew word for “pierced” is the word for “lion”….. “'ariy”….. like a lion, they devour the Scriptures with their mouths. The “hands and feet” are the Scriptures themselves….they violently pierce them….in keeping with the “lion” theme.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. “Pierced” = “lion”
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

But God will deliver, strengthen and help the Scriptures….with the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Truth of the Scriptures

19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.

The Scriptures will be saved from the lion’s mouth.

21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
 
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Hi Wheeler ,
you have put together alot about the Lions
and for most part they are devouring prey as a lion, these , pasters and shepherds
devouring the trusting sheep
the poor and needy folk that are seeking God
so they go to church to find Him
and they are ''attacked over and over again'' and beaten down till they cannot lift up their heads Psa 72:4He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.
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Psa 72:12For he shall deliver the needy when he crieth; the poor also, and [him] that hath no helper.
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Psa 72:13He shall spare the poor and needy, and shall save the souls of the needy.
Jer 23:1Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD. And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase. And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this [is] his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS

Thankful For Jesus ! heavenly Father

Isa 56:11Yea, [they are] greedy dogs [which] can never have enough, and they [are] shepherds [that] cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

the greedy dogs that fight over the ''bones of contention ''Hab 1:3Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause [me] to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence [are] before me: and there are [that] raise up strife and contention.Pro 22:10Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease.

where is the love ? the brotherly love and genuine concern for others well being ?

Oh that Faith in God was abundant






And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
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Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive [them], and ye shall have [them].
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Mar 11:25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. Peace in Jesus C ..
 
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wow So many angels ! been reading more on your other posts Wheeler
I wonder if the White Throne Judment is all them saints with Jesus
being in white and all ? the throne after looking at the meaning it makes me wonder ?? it is not described as a chair
necessarily but can be , its all greek to me :(
thronos

I was just thinking how they are white and come with Jesus to judge the world , Jesus speaks of those who sit with Him in His throne when you overcome in Rev 3
Rev 3:21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

white means leukos G3022
1) light, bright, brilliant
a) brilliant from whiteness, (dazzling) white
1) of the garments of angels, and of those exalted to the splendour of the heavenly state
2) shining or white garments worn on festive or state occasions
3) of white garments as the sign of innocence and purity of the soul
b) dead white
1) of the whitening colour of ripening grain

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Cr&c=6&t=KJV#2


Zec 14:5And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, [and] all the saints with thee.
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

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2Th 1:10When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.




1 Corn 6 :2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?






I just do not know if this can be ?

peace C ...
 
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Everything centers around Jesus opening up the Scriptures for our understanding. The Scriptures themselves will shine with His meaning…it is the “throne”. The “white” throne is a throne of “light”…understanding…the knowledge of God that the Scriptures will shine forth at the appointed time. When he opens up the Bible for understanding, there is no place left for the current, religious interpretation of man…there is no place for man’s glory…there is no place for the pride of religious men….there is no place left for men’s way of doing “church.” Those of the current ways of church must deny themselves for this Truth in order to be saved. They must cease from their own wisdom and accept the wisdom of God….His knowledge.

(Mat 16:24 KJV) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

When the Scriptures are opened up and presented for all to see, then we are at the judgment seat. We are judged by how we accept or reject this Truth that is presented….at the judgment seat…the throne of Light. Will we humbly accept the love of the Truth and do the Truth or will we exalt ourselves against Him in our current religious pride, thoughts and ways? Will we stubbornly continue to cling onto our own interpretations of the Bible that is widely now accepted in our particular denominations or will we reject them for the Scripture of Truth? The Truth will reveal what is in the heart of man…by how he reacts to it. When the Scriptures are opened up, it becomes a dangerous time for men to exalt themselves.

(Mat 12:35 KJV) A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Every idle word that men shall speak, he shall give an account for it at the day of judgment. For by the way we respond to it…our works….our words…which come out of our hearts, we are either justified or condemned.

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

By confessing and doing the Truth, we find ourselves written in the book of Life and not blotted out. But those who exalt themselves in this current church “world” of thought and ways against the Truth, are the man of sin to be revealed. The man of sin is revealed by what comes out of his heart in response to the revealing of the Scripture of Truth. It exposes their pride and hatred toward Him and His knowledge.

(2 Th 2:3 KJV) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

In response to the revealed Truth, there will be men in the church who will exalt themselves against the Scripture of Truth. They will oppose and exalt themselves against the knowledge of God who will reveal His Truth in the Scriptures. The Scriptures are His throne…His temple (as we who believe are too.) The man of sin will sit in that temple of God and show himself that he is God….in other words, there will be church people who will oppose the Scripture of Truth by saying their “truth” of the Bible is the real “truth.” Their word takes precedence over His Word. They will be saying that their interpretation of the Bible is the real, godly interpretation and the only way of salvation….in direct defiance to God’s revelation of the Truth. The “white” throne of Light is the Scriptures that are perfected and explained in the knowledge of God.

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

But there is a severe judgment waiting for those who do this at the judgment seat….at the open revelation of the Truth of the Scriptures. Not only will they not accept the love of the Truth, but will not repent of their church ways….their covetousness, their thefts, their murders….hating each other, their sorceries….using the Bible to delude people with their fleshly understanding. They will speak “great swelling words of vanity”…..sorcery.

(2 Pet 2:18 KJV) For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

They will have their names blotted out of the book of Life and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. They shall perish in their own corruption…in their own wickedness. They shall have no peace but only war among themselves.

(Rev 14:10 KJV) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

They will be “outside” in the darkness because they will have rejected the Truth for their falsehoods and church works…works of darkness. They will not believe and do the Truth which prevents them from entering in and seeing the revealed Scripture of Truth in its entirety and experiencing the peace and Life of God.

(Rev 22:14 KJV) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

For outside are those who will not believe the revealed Truth when they hear it…they will not be able to understand the rest of the Scriptures….they will not be able to enter in.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Those that will not cleanse themselves in the Truth will not come into the holy city…New Jerusalem….Zion. They will not be able to know the mysteries of the kingdom….for their own unbelief will keep them from it.

(Isa 52:1 KJV) Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

Jesus is the Truth….he is the root and the offspring of David. He is the “branch”….the sprout of the Truth that we are to believe in so that we may enter into that beautiful city of Light…..Zion…the city of David….New Jerusalem…..Bethlehem….the house of bread…..the Truth. If we overcome our error-filled church “world” and accept the Truth as revealed by the Lord, we will be granted the right to sit with Him in his throne. We can then understand all of the Truth and be able to judge with the Lord what is right and wrong…what is Truth and what is error…what is clean and what is unclean….what is just and what is wicked.

(Rev 3:20 KJV) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

The “holy angels” are all of the messengers of the Scriptures. Every jot and tittle of the Scriptures will shine with meaning….they will be “changed” in the “twinkling of an eye” into their spiritual Truth. The “angels”….the shining messages of the Truth of the Scriptures (from all the Saints eyewitness accounts)…..shall come forth and sever the wicked from among the just.

(Mat 13:49 KJV) So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

And again, every man shall be rewarded according to his works….according to how he responds to that shining Truth. The Son of Man comes in the glory of his Father and with his angels. We, who hear the Truth, are His messengers also.

(Mat 16:27 KJV) For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

The angels shall “sing”…they shall praise the Lord….by showing forth the heavenly, spiritual knowledge of God. The Scriptures will sing the praises of God through a new understanding of His majestic wisdom and ways contained behind the earthly stories we so often have read. Moses’ words, as an “angel,” shall sing something we have never heard before…..the knowledge of God in complete understanding.

(Psa 148:1 KJV) Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.

When Moses is understood with the heavenly wisdom….he will no longer be a “stranger”….he will be at home with the Lord..in the promised land.. He will speak heavenly Truth….he will no longer be a stranger in “Madian” which means “contention, brawling.” People will no longer argue over what Moses words mean.

(Acts 7:29 KJV) Then fled Moses at this saying, and was a stranger in the land of Madian, where he begat two sons.

Abraham will no longer be a stranger with the son of “Heth”….the sons of terror.

(Gen 23:3 KJV) And Abraham stood up from before his dead, and spake unto the sons of Heth, saying,
4 I am a stranger and a sojourner with you: give me a possession of a buryingplace with you, that I may bury my dead out of my sight.

When one finds the Truth wrapped up in the earthly stories of the Bible, then suddenly (in the twinkling of an eye) there will be the multitude of the heavenly host praising God. Then you will see many, many Truths everywhere throughout the Scriptures ….all praising God.

(Luke 2:13 KJV) And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,


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There are many wolves today and yet there are also shepherds today who are keeping proper watch over the flock in this time of “night”…in this time of the power of darkness…as we see in Luke 2….a prophecy of the coming revelation of the Truth. Not only did this happen 2000 years ago, but will spiritually happen today….or in the near future.

(Luke 2:8 KJV) And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

They are abiding in the “field”…..they study the Scriptures…watching for the Lord’s interpretation (studying to show oneself approved)…and keeping watch over the people of God. They continue in his doctrine….to love one another…the doctrine of Christ. The angel of the Lord will come upon those who watch. We will see the glory of the Lord shine in the Scripture of Truth.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

We are to see (understand) that we are compassed with a great cloud of witnesses….they are His Saints…His holy angels. The Scriptures will shine with the Lord’s glory….with spiritual understanding…coming forth from all of the witness’ accounts in the Bible.

(Heb 12:1 KJV) Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

The Lord comes in the voice of the archangel….the chief messenger of the Scripture of Truth. The Spirit of Truth comes to show us all things.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

Christ the Lord is the Truth….the Truth starts as a sprout growing out of the drought that the Scriptures has endured. We have been living in a time of spiritual drought…a famine.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

The “city of David” speaks of spiritual Zion. The Lord takes the strong hold of Zion just as David did in 2nd Samuel….which is all a prophecy of the Lord coming to deliver the Scriptures and His people from ungodly men who have taken us as captives. He is the King as David who will unite all of the Scriptures and his people (Israel) into one….He will take Zion…the city of David.

(2 Sam 5:7 KJV) Nevertheless David took the strong hold of Zion: the same is the city of David.

We are to receive the love of the Truth….to take freely of the living Water. The word “Jebusites” means “trodden down, trample”…..and is a veiled reference to the unbelieving wicked who will be trampled under foot. They ( the spiritual Jebusites) will refuse the Truth when they hear it….they will reject the government of God…they refuse to have Him as their King. The “lame and the blind” are those who will not hear and do the Truth…they will turn their ears from the Truth. The Lord’s (David’s) soul abhors the “blind and the lame.”

8 And David said on that day, Whosoever getteth up to the gutter, and smiteth the Jebusites, and the lame and the blind, that are hated of David's soul, he shall be chief and captain. Wherefore they said, The blind and the lame shall not come into the house.

Indeed, the “blind and the lame” shall not come into the “house.”

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Jesus is the Truth….and a “sprout” or branch of the Truth comes from the dry Scriptures….Zion.

(Jer 23:5 KJV) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

(Isa 11:1 KJV) And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

As they did to Jesus 2000 years ago, so have they done to the Scriptures in the “dry”….the drought of hearing the Truth.

(Luke 23:31 KJV) For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?

But Truth shall spring…or “sprout” out of the dry earth (the Scriptures)….

(Psa 85:11 KJV) Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.

And the Lord invites those who are thirsty to drink of that Living Water.

(Rev 21:6 KJV) And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

If we can overcome all that we have been religiously been taught and have wholly accepted as truth in our churches…and our ways that are result of them, then we can inherit all things. The TRUTH WILL SET US FREE.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

But those who are fearful of what other men will think if they do accept the Truth…or do not believe the revealed Truth or do not cease from their erroneous church ways….shall not enter into that city. They will be outside in the darkness….perishing in their own wickedness.

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

They will be “ever learning” and never being able to come to the knowledge of the Truth…they shall not enter into that heavenly city of God’s wisdom and knowledge.

(2 Tim 3:7 KJV) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Instead, they will resist the Truth….men of corrupt minds. They will resist Moses and all of the Prophets….they will resist the Scripture of Truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

They will be standing in front of the white throne….as they resist. Judgment will come upon them as fire….and their folly shall be manifest unto all men as they perish in their corruption.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

The time is coming for religious man to cease from his church works or error. Let us cease from them to enter into His rest.

(Heb 4:10 KJV) For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Instead let us labor for the Truth….let us not fall into the examples of unbelief that are written about for our salvation.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

For the Word of God is quick and powerful. The Lord comes with His mighty and holy angels to sever the wicked from among the just.

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

For the Lord will come near to us to judgment….and He will be a swift witness against all those continue on in their erroneous church ways….after receiving the full knowledge of the Truth.

(Mal 3:5 KJV) And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
 
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Thanks for clearing that up Wheeler ,sorry if what I asked sounded prideful :(

So the Scriptures are His Throne
the Light /Knowledge of Him would that be sit with Christ in heavenly places than that Paul describes in Eph ?


Eph 1:3Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:


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Eph 1:20Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead,

and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly [places],



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Eph 2:6And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:




here is he who judges your brother that causes judgement on one it seems
Rom 14:10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
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2Cr 5:10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done, whether [it be] good or bad.

children of the Day have His light in them the Knowledge of God , Spirit of Truth the casting off the works of darkness is of ignorance and blindness to the Will of God
Rom 13:12The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
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1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.



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1Th 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as [do] others; but let us watch and be sober.



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1Th 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.



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1Th 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.



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1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Th&c=5&t=KJV#comm/10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

that wrath is a work of darkness
and sleep would mean here , as others do , they are also in the darkness / night
no Light of Jesus

Blessings C ..
 
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Hi Chickapee, your posts never sound prideful! I am very thankful for your posts….and am glad and humbled that you take the time to read my rather long-winded ramblings. One should always be like the Bereans and search the Scriptures daily to see whether anything they have heard or read is so.

(Acts 17:11 KJV) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Please do not take anything I write as something directed to you. I am putting down the thoughts that float through my head as I type….and never intend to scold or chastise anybody here. I hope it doesn’t come across that way. I find that I learn more from the Lord as I do this. I now understand what is meant by the measure you mete, it shall be measured to you….more shall be given. I feel I learn more Truth from Him when I just put it out there.

(Mark 4:24 KJV) And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.

(1 Tim 4:13 KJV) Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.

Jesus opens up the Scriptures to our understanding in this last day…..for the obedience of faith…to obey the Truth. We are to cast away the works of darkness that we have all participated in ….inside the church. We have done those things in ignorance of the Scripture of Truth. We are to put on the “armor of Light”….the knowledge of God that shines through the Scriptures….in Christ Jesus.

(Rom 13:12 KJV) The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

Jesus preaches to us today….the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret. He opens the Bible up ….the book is opened up….for understanding.

(Rom 16:25 KJV) Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

It is being now made “manifest” through the Scriptures of the Prophets.

26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Indeed, He raises us up with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ. We, who believe and do the Truth, are made to sit on His throne….in the knowledge and wisdom of God. We shall understand the Scriptures with the mind of Christ and be able to discern the errors of man.

(Eph 1:3 KJV) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

He forgives us of our sins…..from our past missing-the-mark of the Truth. Most of us have relied upon our own private interpretation of the Bible…or have accepted doctrines of men as Truth. All churches have missed the mark…they have fallen short of the glory of God. They have never been able to correctly interpret the Scriptures in heavenly wisdom.

(Eph 1:7 KJV) In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

He abounds toward us ALL wisdom and prudence…..His wisdom and not ours.

8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;

He makes us sit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

(Eph 2:6 KJV) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

The Father of glory will give those who believe in the revealed Truth the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him. We shall know all things in the Scripture of Truth….in His temple…in His sanctuary.

(Eph 1:17 KJV) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

The eyes of our understanding are to be enlightened…..we are to know what the Scriptures (those eyewitness saints) are saying in the spiritual knowledge of God. Our inheritance is with those biblical Saints…..we are His saints…who believe the Word of God as Jesus Christ preaches it…..as opposed to what man teaches in his denominations.

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Truth of the Scriptures. His preaching of them in God’s heavenly wisdom is what we are to hear….to hear His voice today. We are to open the door. Christ is the anointing of the Truth. How will man receive the Truth? The Truth comes to us in meekness when we joyfully receive Him…..just as Jesus literally showed us 2000 years ago.

(Mat 21:5 KJV) Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.

And the multitudes spread their garments in the Way…and others cut down branches from the trees and strowed them in the Way. People who will humbly accept the Truth will repent of their errors and ways. They will remove their doctrines. They will acknowledge and know the Way of righteousness that is in Christ Jesus…the Truth.

8 And a very great multitude spread their garments in the way; others cut down branches from the trees, and strowed them in the way.
9 And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.
10 And when he was come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, Who is this?
11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

And Jesus who is the Truth will go into the temple of God…the sanctuary….which is the Scriptures. He will overthrow the tables of the moneychangers….he will overthrow man’s doctrines and those who use them to enrich themselves. He will cast out all those who buy and sell in the temple….those who corrupt the Word of God for unjust gain. They represent those who do not receive the love of the Truth…who do not humble themselves….who do not acknowledge the Lord who bought them. They will willfully continue in their ways. They will continue to make merchandise of the Scriptures and take advantage of those who listen to them….the poor in spirit…until Jesus comes to cast them out. He will overthrow their authority….their seats…of those who sell “doves”….in other words, those who shall say “peace and safety.” They will willfully think they will still have peace to continue in their erroneous ways. They are the man of sin sitting in the temple (proclaiming their “truth” is the real truth) whose seat will be overthrown.

12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

They have made the Scriptures a den of thieves by their erroneous teachings of it. They have deceived people with their teachings.

13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

As it says in Psalms 79…..The heathen have come into His inheritance…..the holy temple….have they defiled. It is the Word of God (the holy temple) they have corrupted. All of the saints of the Bible are His inheritance….they will be used to show forth His glory and power through a new understanding of their words. We also share in the inheritance of the saints….we will be able to properly teach what their words mean with the mind of Christ.

(Psa 79:1 KJV) A Psalm of Asaph. O God, the heathen are come into thine inheritance; thy holy temple have they defiled; they have laid Jerusalem on heaps.

The enemy has taken the Scriptures and twisted and distorted them. They have taken the “dead bodies” of His servants and given their flesh to the “beasts of the earth”….to earthly-minded men who use the Bible to deceive, destroy, kill. They roar as a lion….seeking whom they may devour.

2 The dead bodies of thy servants have they given to be meat unto the fowls of the heaven, the flesh of thy saints unto the beasts of the earth.

The Word of God…the Scriptures….is the “sanctuary.” The enemies have defiled it with their covetous teachings ….they have cast down the dwelling place of His name to the “ground”…the earthly, fleshly wisdom of man.

(Psa 74:7 KJV) They have cast fire into thy sanctuary, they have defiled by casting down the dwelling place of thy name to the ground.

They have done “wickedly” in the sanctuary…..they wickedly misuse the Scriptures for earthly gain and deception.

(Psa 74:3 KJV) Lift up thy feet unto the perpetual desolations; even all that the enemy hath done wickedly in the sanctuary.

Satan and his ministers have taken away the daily sacrifice….which is to love one another (the doctrine of Christ)…..and also cast down the Scriptures….the “place of His sanctuary.”

(Dan 8:11 KJV) Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

And because of the increase in sin, the love of most has grown cold…..the daily sacrifice has been removed. The daily debt to one another is to love one another. Truth was cast to the ground.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered.
13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

But as we see, the sanctuary shall be cleansed. The Scriptures shall be delivered from the mouth of the lion…..from the beasts of the earth. There will be a revelation of the Scripture of Truth….and Christ Jesus is that revealed Truth. He comes to drive out those who corrupt the Word of God…..he will drive out those who buy and sell in the “temple”….the Scriptures. And we will be built into the temple by the revealed Truth…..a building of God and not man’s.

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Our Lord is the Minister of the “sanctuary”…..of the True Temple….which He is to pitch and not man. Our Lord will be the true Preacher of the Scripture of Truth as opposed to man who has done wickedly in His “sanctuary.” Man has taught error….misunderstanding the Bible and using the Scriptures in outright fraud to deceive people.

(Heb 8:2 KJV) A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

The Word of God has been in the “drought”…..as Jesus said….if they do these things in a green tree, what will they do in the DRY? If we look in Psalms, we see David speaking of this. His soul was thirsty for God and that his flesh longed for God in a “dry and thirsty land where there is no water.” The Word of God has been in that dry and thirsty land….where there is no water. There is a longing for God’s Truth to shine forth from the Bible…..the Living Water.

(Psa 63:1 KJV) A Psalm of David, when he was in the wilderness of Judah. O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;

We shall see His power and glory…..in the “sanctuary.” We shall see the Son of Man coming on the “cloud of witnesses” in great glory and power. The Word of God will shine with His knowledge.

2 To see thy power and thy glory, so as I have seen thee in the sanctuary.

When we receive the love of the Scripture of Truth, we enter into His sanctuary….we enter into His city of heavenly wisdom. Then we shall understand the end of those who corrupt the Word of God for dishonest gain. They shall be driven from the temple….the Word of God.

(Psa 73:17 KJV) Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

They are the “ungodly”….they have prospered in the world…..they have increased in riches. They have built religious empires by twisting and distorting the Scriptures. They have led many astray by their errors. But once we understand the Scriptures, we will realize a big change is coming for them.

(Psa 73:12 KJV) Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

His strength and beauty are in His sanctuary. The Truth that is revealed in the Scriptures shows forth his honor and majesty.

(Psa 96:6 KJV) Honour and majesty are before him: strength and beauty are in his sanctuary.
 
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Hi Wheeler ,
They are not long winded I love them ,

and Thank you for saying that , I felt my thoughts on the saints making up the White throne may have seemed prideful :blush: but the LIGHT OF GOD and Christ is very much more likely and TRUE , and Amen!!!

I do learn much more sharing these scriptures of Truth also ! God is so faithful and Just that way the more you desire Him the more He gives of Himself to us ,

I thank God for His gift of faith to help us and Grace too Jesus Christ ,
Like Peter confessing that Jesus was the Son of God and Jesus telling Him the Father gave him that foundational truth / revelation to build upon , that flesh and blood did not reveal that to Peter .

Isa 42:16And I will bring the blind by a way [that] they knew not; I will lead them in paths [that] they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
Mat 4:16The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

Mat 10:27What I tell you in darkness, [that] speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, [that] preach ye upon the housetops.


Luk 11:34The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when [thine eye] is evil, thy body also [is] full of darkness.


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Luk 11:35Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.

Jhn 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. The Light / knowledge of God the truth and way and the Life

that knowledge can be corrupted and become darkness Jesus warns , the blindness and ignorance of the will of God

they said they see, their knowledge /and perception was corrupted and Jesus said their sin remained



And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. And [some] of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?


Jhn 9:41Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.


that is what happed to Saul / Paul on the road to Damascus and Paul understood this later on that his pride had him blind ,

but when Jesus come to judge him , he blinded Saul with the Truth and he could not see
for 3 days without sight , saul fell to the earth to a low place from a high place of pride ,
acts 9 ;4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

Act 9:18And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

the same scales of levi-athan pride , in Job 41
the monster of the seas/ many peoples
Job 41:15[His] scales [are his] pride, shut up together [as with] a close seal.

Job 41:34 He beholdeth all high [things]: he [is] a king over all the children of pride.
Gen 49:5Simeon and Levi [are] brethren; instruments of cruelty [are in] their habitations.


Paul was, by ancestry, of the tribe of Benjamin. He was religiously a Jew (and a Pharisee - see Pharisees), of Judah. Judah had two meanings. It meant ancestry, people descended from Judah, but it also meant those of the Kingdom of Judah, which was composed of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin (and part of Levi). The religion of the Kingdom of Judah was "Jewish."

He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud.





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Job 26:13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.

and Paul was sent by the Lord to the place called strait
Act 9:11And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for [one] called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,


the Lord helped Saul / paul to see and be made straight
and Paul saw how blind/ ignorant and prideful he was and repented and the Lord made Him a vessel of mercy from wrath and from darkness into Jesus glorious Light / Knowledge of Gods will


2Cr 4:4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Will read more of your post tonight Wheeler thanks for caring and sharing i enjoy the studying in Gods Word too ...peace in Jesus .... C
 
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The Scriptures have been like a dry, thirsty land where there is no water without the heavenly anointing of the Truth...the Water of Life. “Jacob” signifies collectively all of the people of the Bible whose witness’ has been silent…or “asleep.” In the meantime, earthly-minded men have misinterpreted the Scriptures….and have misused them for earthly things. As we see in Genesis 28, Jacob “went out” from “Beersheba” which means “well of an oath” or the “well of the seven”….the well of the Seven Spirits of God……and went toward “Haran” which means “parched, dry, glow, burn.” As Jesus said, if they do these things in a green tree, what would they do in the “dry.” Jesus is the Truth of the Scriptures…who has the Seven Spirits of God…who departed and went away into heaven….leaving the Word that became flesh.

(Gen 28:10 KJV) And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran.

Jacob took the stones of that place…..the “stones” of the Scriptures….and put them for his pillows and lay down in that place to “sleep.” The witnesses of the Scriptures have been “asleep”….silent to the understanding of man….only Christ Jesus….the anointed…the Spirit of Truth….can “wake” them up for us after this “night.” The “night” is the power of darkness that has taken the Scriptures and twisted and distorted them in their earthly-minded understanding. Without the proper understanding of the Scriptures, man suffers from violence, famine, envy, strife when he relies upon his own knowledge of the Bible. We have denominations and war with each other….we have wolves in sheep clothing leading us……we have darkness…..night.

11 And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep.

And Jacob had a dream. What he dreamed was the Scriptures being opened up for our understanding. The “ladder was set up on the earth”…..the Scriptures will be established in the Truth of God. The “top of it reached heaven”…..the word “top” means “head”….the Scriptures will be established in God’s heavenly understanding. Heaven and earth meet….attached with the mind of Christ….the Seven Spirits of God. The Scripture of Truth will have it messengers enlightening our understanding….they will speak the wisdom and knowledge of God….in His understanding.

12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

Then later we see Jacob awakening out of his sleep…..the Scriptures will be “awakened” in the resurrection of the Truth. Then we will understand that the Lord is in “this place”…..the Scripture of Truth. Jacob “knew it not.” Neither have we known it….but we will soon know when we “awaken” to the Scripture of Truth.

(Gen 28:16 KJV) And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not.

The “awakened” Scripture of Truth is the “house of God”…..the “gate of heaven”….where the Truth , the Way and the Life is….Christ Jesus. Where we are to be built into a house by God’s building and not man’s.

17 And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.

Once again, we see Jacob “rose up early in the morning”…..the resurrection of the spiritual Truth of the Scriptures in the mind of Christ (who is the bright, morning star.) Jacob took the stone and “set it up for a pillar” and poured oil upon the top of it. The Scriptures will be establish and anointed with the Spirit of Christ who will show us the Truth and Way in them.

18 And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.
19 And he called the name of that place Bethel: but the name of that city was called Luz at the first.

The Spirit of Christ will keep us in the Way of righteousness to go in with the enlightened Scripture of Truth. The Lord will give us “bread to eat”…..the knowledge of the Truth. He will give us “raiment to put on”…..works of true righteousness done in the Lord and not man’s understanding (the works of darkness.)

20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,

We shall know the peace of God…..We shall be at “home” with the Lord. His tabernacle will be among men.

21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:

The counsel of the Lord is to buy of Him “gold tried in the fire”….the knowledge of God of the Scripture of Truth that is pure. We are to buy of Him “white raiment”… “light raiment”…..true works of righteousness as opposed to our works of darkness currently being worked in the denominations. We are to anoint our “eyes” with eye salve so that we may see. We are to hear the Spirit of Truth that will guide us into all wisdom and knowledge of God. We will understand the Scriptures with His understanding. Our eyes will be enlightened with the Word of God.

(Rev 3:18 KJV) I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

The Father of glory will give us who believe the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation in the knowledge of Him.

(Eph 1:17 KJV) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

The Spirit of Wisdom and revelation enlightens our eyes….our understanding of the Scriptures. We have an inheritance in the saints of the Bible….we will understand their words in heavenly wisdom (the top reached into heaven)…..we will preach those enlightened words.

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

Our “eyes” will be enlightened as Jonathan’s were…..we also shall taste a “little of this honey”……the enlightened Word of God.

(1 Sam 14:29 KJV) Then said Jonathan, My father hath troubled the land: see, I pray you, how mine eyes have been enlightened, because I tasted a little of this honey.

Jonathan’s father, Saul, represents those pastors, priests, reverends, etc who will seek to prevent people from eating of the Truth (the honey.) They seek to keep the people in their current famine and thirst condition.

(1 Sam 14:24 KJV) And the men of Israel were distressed that day: for Saul had adjured the people, saying, Cursed be the man that eateth any food until evening, that I may be avenged on mine enemies. So none of the people tasted any food.

They came to a “wood”….which represents the Scriptures….and they found honey upon the ground. There is knowledge upon the surface stories of the Scriptures….the “ground.”

25 And all they of the land came to a wood; and there was honey upon the ground.

We are to “come into the wood”….the Scripture of Truth ….where the “honey drops”….it “flows, walks, journeys.”

26 And when the people were come into the wood, behold, the honey dropped; but no man put his hand to his mouth: for the people feared the oath.

“Saul” comes from the word “sheol”…the “grave.” The earthly-minded leaders of the churches have the power of the “grave” in their words and influence. They will seek to keep us from receiving the Truth (the honey) with thanksgiving. The “honey” is the enlightened Word of God….the knowledge of God’s Truth and wisdom. It is sweet to our taste.

(Prov 24:13 KJV) My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste:
14 So shall the knowledge of wisdom be unto thy soul: when thou hast found it, then there shall be a reward, and thy expectation shall not be cut off.

But the “wicked man” will seek to “spoil” our resting place…..they will seek to keep us from the “honey” that flows in the “wood”….the Scripture of Truth.

15 Lay not wait, O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous; spoil not his resting place:

(Prov 16:24 KJV) Pleasant words are as an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones.

The words of Jesus are that “honeycomb” that sweetens the Scriptures to us with the knowledge of the Truth. It is the “meat” of the Word that he will give us...His words will open up the Scriptures for us.

(Luke 24:41 KJV) And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

And here is THE whole point summed up for us .....He will open up our understanding so that we might understand the Scriptures.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

We are to taste of that heavenly “honey.” We are to taste of that “heavenly gift” and be partakers of the Spirit of Truth.

(Heb 6:4 KJV) For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

We are to “taste the good Word of God”....the “honey” that flows in the Scripture of Truth.

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Let us not listen to those who will seek to keep us from it....who will seek to keep us faint from not eating of the Truth. Let us not fall away back to the old thoughts...the erroneous knowledge of man...who crucifies the Scriptures with his unlearned and unstable distortions.

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have showed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

We have been warned about those who would seek to forbid us from receiving the revealed Truth....the “meat” of the Word. They will forbid us to “marry” the Truth.....they will seek to command us from “abstaining from meats.” Let us not listen to those men who are the “seducing spirits” who preach “doctrines of devils” in our pulpits. We have already been deceived by them too long as it is.

(1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

We are to believe and know the Truth....the unconcealed Truth of the Word.

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.


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We are to be nourished in the words of belief and good doctrine which we will have attained....so that we may be good ministers of Jesus Christ. Christ comes to the city called “Nain”....which means “a home, pleasant place.” He comes to interpret the Scriptures with God’s understanding....so that we may all have a true “home.”

(Luke 7:11 KJV) And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his disciples went with him, and much people.

He comes near to the “gate of the city”....the “gates of heaven”.....the city of heavenly wisdom. The “mother” is that heavenly Wisdom...the mother of us all. She, like Rachel, has wept for her “children”....for they are naught.

12 Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.

The Lord told the woman to “weep not.”

13 And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not.

“Rachel” is symbolic for the Wisdom of God......the mother of us all. She weeps....yet the Lord tells her to “refrain her voice from weeping.”

(Jer 31:15 KJV) Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.
16 Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.

She is “Jerusalem” which is above. The “mother of us all.”

(Gal 4:26 KJV) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

We must be “born again”......the word “again” is “anothen” which means “from above.” We must be born FROM ABOVE.....in the heavenly wisdom of God....who is the mother of us all. We cannot “see” the kingdom of God without this heavenly wisdom .....we cannot understand the Scriptures without His Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation.

(John 3:3 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Being “born again” of incorruptible seed.....by the Word of God preached in the mind of Christ. We have all been born of “corruptible seed”....the religious teachings (distortions) of the Bible by man’s own understanding.

(1 Pet 1:23 KJV) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Man teaches the Bible with the fleshly mind....he literalizes the Bible with his surface understanding. His glory is based on his fleshly understanding.....his religious works are nothing but the “flower of grass” that will fall away. The current religious system of man will be destroyed.

24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

The preaching of the Word of the Lord by Jesus Christ endures forever. The gospel is only truly understood with the mind of Christ.

25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

We are to be born “from above”....as newborn babes, we are to desire the SINCERE milk of the Word so that we may truly grow. Man has not been teaching the sincere milk of the Word. Man preaches for his own glory.

2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

And getting back to Luke 7....we see the Lord will come to “touch the bier”....He will attach Himself to the Scriptures....He is that the anointing of the oil upon Jacob’s pillar....He is the TRUTH of the Word of God....He is the Word of God. They that “bare him” are all of the “cloud of witnesses” of the Bible. They will “stand still”....or be established in the Truth. They shall “arise” from their “sleep.” Their witness is not “dead” but just “asleep.”

14 And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise.

The “dead” shall sit up and speak....the Scripture of Truth will speak the knowledge of God.....the wisdom of God. The Lord delivered the young man to his mother.....the “mother” is Jerusalem from above....that heavenly wisdom. We also shall speak the mysteries of the kingdom of God....we also shall be delivered to our heavenly mother....the Wisdom of God.

15 And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.
16 And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.

The Word of him (rumor of him) will go forth throughout all of the Scriptures and to His people...and the entire earth shall be full of the knowledge of God.

17 And this rumour of him went forth throughout all Judaea, and throughout all the region round about.
 
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Jacob saw the angels of God ascending and descending on the ladder. The ladder is the Scripture of Truth that is established with the mind of Christ (the “top” that reaches to heaven.) Heaven and earth meet.....the Lord Jesus Christ opens the Scriptures for our understanding.

(Gen 28:12 KJV) And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

The angels of God ascending are the messengers of the Truth. The Truth shall spring from the earth....the dry Scriptures....and the angels that descend speak of His righteousness, mercy, peace and redemption. All of the messages in the Scriptures speak of His Truth.....His mercy....His righteousness....His faithfulness.

(Psa 85:11 KJV) Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.

His mercy is great above the heavens.....and His Truth springs from the earth and reaches unto the “clouds.”

(Psa 108:4 KJV) For thy mercy is great above the heavens: and thy truth reacheth unto the clouds.

The “clouds” are the “cloud of witnesses” that surround us.....all of the saints of the Bible whose witness becomes enlivened by the living words of Jesus who will properly interpret them. They are the “clouds of heaven.” His mercy is in the heavens. They will speak in the spiritual mind of Christ (the head of the “ladder” reaches to heaven) about His mercy and faithfulness and His Truth. Our redemption comes from above.

(Luke 21:27 KJV) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

He forgives us for our sins...our missing the mark of the Truth. His mercy is in the heavens......the “heavens” shall speak of His mercy ....His forgiveness....to those who receive the love of the Truth that springs out of the earth. The “heavens” are the “cloud of witnesses” of the Bible.

(Psa 36:5 KJV) Thy mercy, O LORD, is in the heavens; and thy faithfulness reacheth unto the clouds.

God shall send forth His mercy and Truth to save us from ungodly men who have the power of the grave in their words and teachings...who twist and distort the Scriptures for covetousness....for unjust gain.

(Psa 57:3 KJV) He shall send from heaven, and save me from the reproach of him that would swallow me up. Selah. God shall send forth his mercy and his truth.

We will hear what the Lord is saying when He opens up the Scriptures for understanding. He will speak peace.....but let us not RETURN AGAIN to folly. All of the churches’ thoughts and ways are in folly.....missing the mark of the Truth. We have all completely misinterpreted the Bible and our works are a result of the misunderstanding. Our divisions, our hatred toward each other, our strife and envy are all a result of not knowing the revealed Truth....that Tree of Life. We do these things out of ignorance of the Truth.

(Psa 85:8 KJV) I will hear what God the LORD will speak: for he will speak peace unto his people, and to his saints: but let them not turn again to folly.
9 Surely his salvation is nigh them that fear him; that glory may dwell in our land.

Where mercy and truth are together.....there is His righteousness and peace. The angels of God ascend and descend on the ladder....the opened Scripture of Truth...Christ Jesus.

10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.
11 Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
12 Yea, the LORD shall give that which is good; and our land shall yield her increase.
13 Righteousness shall go before him; and shall set us in the way of his steps.

By His mercy and Truth, sin is purged. By the fear of the Lord which is the beginning of wisdom, men depart from evil.

(Prov 16:6 KJV) By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.
 
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wow , Love the connections Wheeler and how we cannot mix the Truth of God with mans ways , it brings corruption
the pillows of stone where Jacob laid his head , the scriptures
and how many use the scriptures wrongly to ''stone '' people with them , judging according to the flesh and natural , and not the Spiritual truth as the pharrisses have been an example when Jesus showed them this error , they were angry with Him over this .

the two names Luz and Bethel being the same place where God is with men


the Place called Luz ''a nut-bearing tree, the almond. ''
(luz):The Hebrew word means "almond tree" or "almond wood"

separation; departure; an almond

I thought of the Rod of Aaron the almond


And Moses laid up the rods before the LORD in the tabernacle of witness.
Num 17:8And it came to pass, that on the morrow Moses went into the tabernacle of witness; and, behold, the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi was budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds.

there is more but its over my head to figure out on my own


but love the Jacobs Ladder dream it does bear witness with the testimony of John here as Jesus testimony / witness ''the Spirit of prophecy ' speaks

Gen 28:12And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.


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Jhn 1:51And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.


the Lord Jesus Christ being that ladder between God and man

this reminds me of this verse
1Jo 2:1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world

the angels / messengers
that rise and fall ascend and descend on the WORD OF GOD / Son of Man and Son of God

its only one way of seeing it , I am not certain of any other ways to see it
but after reading your last 2 posts
I am seeing how man corrupts the Truth with his mixture and confusion
and thought of the Tower of Babel in Gen 11
Luk 2:34And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this [child] is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;


Jud 1:15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
the judgements come ON OUR OWN HEADS when you speak against the TRUTH

thanks for the edifications Wheeler Peace as always C ...
 
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Indeed, the “testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” It is his words that enliven the Scriptures to our understanding. He takes them out of the stone, cold literal meanings that are established in man’s mind and transforms them into God’s spiritual message for us today....into a living message. We are to believe in his testimony to be spoken at the appointed time so that we may cleanse ourselves from our sins...our missing the mark of the Truth.

(Rev 19:10 KJV) And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

The coming active, living testimony of Jesus will take the Scriptures out of the darkness of man’s fleshly, literal understanding and transform them into God’s spiritual knowledge which is Truth. Earthly, historical stories of the Bible will speak spiritual messages for today....prophecy for today. We are to hear His voice when He speaks. By His knowledge, we will have full understanding of our sins....we have all missed the mark of the Truth. By His knowledge we wash our robes in the blood of the Lamb. Let’s examine Revelation 22:14 a little closer:

(Rev 22:14 KJV) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

In the Greek, the word “blessed” is “makarios” which means “spiritually prosperous

The words “they that do his commandments” are really saying “those who wash their robes.” Check other translations....I don’t know why the KJV doesn’t translate it properly.

The words “that they may have the right to the tree of life” is really saying “they shall have mastery/authority UPON the Tree of Life.” In other words, those that wash their robes shall be spiritually prosperous in preaching the spiritually discerned Word of God....the LIVING Word of God...they shall have the mastery of the Bible with God’s Spirit of Truth. We are to hear what the Spirit says and those who hear the Spirit are to repeat what they hear....they also prophesy in Christ Jesus. To prophesy means to speak the Word of God with His knowledge and wisdom...in His spiritual understanding....as opposed to man’s preaching (false prophesying) of the last 2000 years. The Lord shows us what is going to happen ahead of time by the spiritual understanding of seemingly historical, earthly stories of the Bible. When we show the meaning of these living parables, we “prophesy”....showing God’s plan for man ahead of time.

(1 Cor 14:3 KJV) But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

When we prophesy in the Spirit of Christ, we help build the church in spirit and Truth. We “edify” the church by knowing His will as revealed by the spiritual Scripture of Truth.

4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

We are to be filled with the complete knowledge (epignosis) of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.

(Col 1:9 KJV) For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

For the hour is coming and NOW is that the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth. Religious man in general has not been worshipping in spirit and Truth....for he has missed the mark of the Truth over and over again....falling short of speaking the Truth of the Scriptures. Only a few have truly entered into Life...through the narrow gate.....they love God and each other and haven’t succumbed to false prophets who seek to scatter the sheep into denominations whose foundations are built upon the sand....man’s religious thoughts and ways.

(John 4:23 KJV) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

When we go to “church,” what we hear mostly being preached is man’s own wisdom. Most of the religious teachings of men are “natural” things that are readily understood by the literalness of the letter of the Scriptures. Only the testimony of Jesus can transform those literal things into the proper spiritual understanding of God.

(1 Cor 2:13 KJV) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

For example, it is “natural” thinking that Jesus will come back in a literal cloud in the literal sky. This is natural man’s teachings that keep us “asleep.”

(Mark 14:62 KJV) And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

He comes in the “cloud of witnesses”....through their words that will speak greater things (greater than their plain, surface meaning) in the testimony of Jesus....which is the spirit of prophecy. Jesus comes to open up the Scriptures in His heavenly spiritual understanding....he comes to preach the Living Word.....he is the living Word of God.

(Heb 12:1 KJV) Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

The “corruptible,” mortal meaning of the literal cloud must put on the “incorruptible,” immortal spiritual meaning of the cloud in Truth and spirit .....being the cloud of witnesses that he comes in.

(1 Cor 15:53 KJV) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

When the Scriptures are spiritualized (made incorruptible/transfigured/changed) by the testimony of Jesus, then “death” will have been swallowed up in victory.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

“Death” is not literalized....except in man’s earthly, readily-apparent understanding. “Death” pertains to ungodly men who compass the Scriptures with their literal teachings based on the natural mind. Those who mind the earthly things cannot discern the spiritual things. They are the “grave.” They keep those who listen to their biblical interpretations in a state of war with each other....in strife and envy....in “death” and “hades.”

(Psa 18:3 KJV) I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
4 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.
5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.

The “sting of death” is sin. The “poison” of “death” is the missing-of the mark of the Truth...sin. When man preaches ( literalizes) the Scriptures based on his own natural mind, he misses the mark of the spiritual meaning of the Scriptures. Through these literalized misinterpretations of the Bible come divisions, hatred, strife, envy among the people of God.....SIN. With man’s doctrines comes the great sword that takes peace from the people of God....divisions, strife, hatred. With man’s doctrines comes the famine of truly hearing the Word of God. With man’s doctrines comes “death” and “hades.” The strength of sin is the LAW. The summary of the Law is to love God and love your neighbor as yourself. When we fight and hate each other over who is correct in their erroneous, literal interpretation, then we sin.....thou shalt not “kill.” When we corrupt the Word of God for unjust gain, we covet earthly things...... “thou shalt not covet.”

(Rom 13:9 KJV) For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

When man preaches the Bible with his natural understanding for earthly things, their throat “is an open sepulchre”.....their tongues are used for deceit....the poison of asps is under their lips. They corrupt the Word of God for unjust gain and they deceive those who listen to them....those poor in spirit.

(Rom 3:13 KJV) Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:

When one listens to the false prophets’ words, he enters through that wide gate that leads to ruin. They enter into strife, envy, famine,“death” and “hades.”

(Mat 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

The false prophets have taken many as their prisoners. Many Christians are captives to their will.....to their doctrines....to their traditions....to their sinful desires.....and they are not even aware of it. It is with the testimony of Jesus that we are to finally understand our situation. It is at the revealing of the Scripture of Truth that we can recover ourselves from the “trap” of the devil and his ministers.


(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Jesus has the keys to let loose those prisoners.

(Rev 1:18 KJV) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Jesus Christ is that Light of God who will open the “blind eyes”....to bring the prisoners from the prison. Christ is the anointing Spirit of Truth upon the Scripture of Truth...who enlivens the Scriptures in our minds....in the mind of Christ. He opens the Scriptures up for our understanding...by which we can escape those who have made us all live in error.

(Isa 42:6 KJV) I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

The “graven images” are man’s doctrines and teachings based on erroneous interpretations of the Bible. Man has made his religious teachings into idols.

8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.

All of those witnesses in the Bible will lift up their voice in His Spirit and Truth. The Scriptures have been in the “wilderness”...the dry, parched desert of man’s understanding. The Scriptures have been in “Kedar”...which means “darkness, sackcloth, mourning”....man’s knowledge has kept it so. The “inhabitants of the rock” shall sing a new song. The saints of the Bible are a part of Christ’s body....the Rock. They shall shout from the top of the mountains.....and that “top” is Christ Jesus....the TRUTH, the Way and the Life.

11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains.

The Scripture of Truth will give glory to the Lord....the witnesses of the Bible will praise Him with the revealing of the correct interpretation of the Lord Jesus Christ.

12 Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.
13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.

The Lord has been still and has refrained Himself while man has taken His Word and twisted and distorted it for the last 2000 years....but it will soon change as He begins His cry of the Truth.

14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once.
 
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Thank you Wheeler and Thanking God though Jesus Christ who strengthens us all
who seek Him whole heartedly ..
praying for many the Spirit of discernment to be able to rightly divide the Word of Truth , it is much needed ...

and was blessed by this here
I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. Phl 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.


there is serveral things you brought out , that made me look deeper
Grateful you also see the ''clouds '' as witnesses , when I see clouds in the Word is do see more spiritually , and there is so many folks who argue this , it is one of the reasons I withdrew from CF a year or so ago ..
to have another or a few see this to , its such a blessing from the Lord
as you brought out here
The words “that they may have the right to the tree of life” is really saying “they shall have mastery/authority UPON the Tree of Life.” In other words, those that wash their robes shall be spiritually prosperous in preaching the spiritually discerned Word of God....the LIVING Word of God...they shall have the mastery of the Bible with God’s Spirit of Truth. We are to hear what the Spirit says and those who hear the Spirit are to repeat what they hear....they also prophesy in Christ Jesus. To prophesy means to speak the Word of God with His knowledge and wisdom...in His spiritual understanding....as opposed to man’s preaching (false prophesying) of the last 2000 years. The Lord shows us what is going to happen ahead of time by the spiritual understanding of seemingly historical, earthly stories of the Bible. When we show the meaning of these living parables, we “prophesy”....showing God’s plan for man ahead of time.
I do have a living translation Bible and sure enough it is washed their robes ! , I love my KJV , but also can now read other translations and can get some more meaning without stumbling over the Word / Christ

Glad you pointed that out I nevr saw it that way before ...
washed in the Blood of Jesus
I see the Promise of Jesus Christ in the new testament back here in Isaiah as prophecy by the HOLY SPIRIT speaking in Isaiah
Bring in the sheep into the fold ....
Isa 1:18Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
this made me read all of 1 Corinthians 14 , and it was even more clear than ever !

we speak to the Lord in Spirit but not to the Church
and the Spirit of prophecy through Jesus Christ testimony is the Chruch able to hear by Faith what the Spirit is saying ..



Gods blessings ..C
 
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