Rammifications of the Darwin Delusion

[peace4ever]

In order to dupe the world that animals can turn into people, Darwin has tried to make humans animals so people will believe that one can breed the other. And since most people can't think for themselves but instead, have blind faith in scientists, they're not hard to dupe as the world has shown...especially if they can see pictures of skull fragments and random bones.

What separates humans from animals is the human capacity for reason and understanding higher values than bodily gatification. But since scientists have encouraged society to lose their reason and unquestioningly follow them (which is why no other accounts of creation are allowed in the schools except evolution so children can be brainwashed from an early age) then the following is how the Darwin Delusion has changed society:

1) Confusion over when life begins
2) Confusion over what marriage is
3) Confusion over what each animals and human can breed
4) Confusion over what a human being is
5) Confusion over morality
6) Confusion over what right and wrong is or whether or not right and wrong even eixt!
7) Gender identity confusion to the point that people are having operations to change their sex
8) Confusion over which sex they were disigned to be attracted to
9) Confusion over whether pedophilia is right or wrong
10) Confusion over whether promiscuity is right or wrong
11) Confusion over what a mother is killing when she aborts her baby

And on and on and on. That's what happens when people lose their reason and blindly believe scientists. It's called brainwashing to the point that our government leaders are spending countless hours and dollars discussing matters related to bodily gratification!

Well I got news for you folks, there are still members of the human race who co-exist with you evolutionist animals who can understand values higher than bodily gratification. So if you want to believe you're animals, then you'll act no better than animals as society has shown; you'll lose your ability to reason and focus only on bodily gratification. That's what Ecclesiastes 3:18-19 and Jude 10 are talking about. Without God, man becomes no better than an animal. With God, man is able to understand values and principles higher than bodily gratification unlike any animal.

So it's up to each of you to decide what you want to be; a human or lose your reason and so you can be brainwashed by any prevailing theory and become an animal.

 

[Mallon]

1) People were guilty of all the sins you listed long before Darwin developed his theory of evolution. So I would argue that Darwin's theory really didn't change anything.
2) Evolutionists aren't strictly interested in "bodily gratification". Particularly your fellow Christian evolutionists who are no less dedicated to the cause of Christ than yourself!

 

[peace4ever]

1) People were guilty of all the sins you listed long before Darwin developed his theory of evolution. So I would argue that Darwin's theory really didn't change anything.
2) Evolutionists aren't strictly interested in "bodily gratification". Particularly your fellow Christian evolutionists who are no less dedicated to the cause of Christ than yourself!

Sorry, but before Darwin, most humans knew:

1) Why animals can't breed human descendants
2) The difference between humans and animals
3) What a pregnant woman is carrying inside of her
4) When life begins
5) Why marriage is between a man and a woman
6) That the anus wasn't designed for sexual intercourse
7) Why promiscuity is destructive
8) That God created the human being

For starters. Today, most humans don't know the above! So sorry, but once Darwin claimed we were animals, than we can act no better than animals. That's logic 101. But people who've been brainwashed don't use reason because they're told that those who are brainwashing them know better than they do.

 

[herev]

p4e, you're confused.
let's play 20 questions.
Animal, vegetable, mineral. Choose one.
Collections of plants and animals - Classification of humans - Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand

 

[herev]

and the comments about us only being interested in bodily gratification--trollish behavior.

 

[metherion]

So sorry, but once Darwin claimed we were animals, than we can act no better than animals.

Quote, book, and page please?

Sounds suspiciously like a strawman to me, especially since people DON"T claim that. Evolution is a scientific theory, not a worldview.

1) Confusion over when life begins
2) Confusion over what marriage is
3) Confusion over what each animals and human can breed
4) Confusion over what a human being is
5) Confusion over morality
6) Confusion over what right and wrong is or whether or not right and wrong even eixt!
7) Gender identity confusion to the point that people are having operations to change their sex
8) Confusion over which sex they were disigned to be attracted to
9) Confusion over whether pedophilia is right or wrong
10) Confusion over whether promiscuity is right or wrong
11) Confusion over what a mother is killing when she aborts her baby

1. Christians' idea of when life begins isn't the only view out there. What you're referring to is more an effect of the incredibly high cultural mixing found all across the globe today with modern technology than anything else.

2. This is a civil rights issue. Over the past century a lot of new civil rights movements have happened. Or do you also intend to blame women's suffrage in America (don't remember offhand when it came about in other countries, sorry), the American Civil Rights movement for blacks, the push for women's equality in the workplace, and so on on evolution as well? Of course not, this would shatter your stereotype of it being HOLY COW TEH EBIL!!!!1!

3. We know what animals can breed. We know what humans can breed. Humans are not animals in the fact that we have a soul, a spirit, that God has blessed us with. But as far as our DNA goes, as far as how our bodies form and work, we are animals, in particular a type of primate. I'll have to see if I can dig up a video I saw that explains exactly how we fit that characteristic.

4. I don't really get what you mean here. Human beings are human beings. Just because the entire world doesn't believe they were made in the image of the Judeo-Christian God doesn't mean evolution has confused humanity over what we are, it means humanity has hundreds of thousands of different cultures each influencing humankind's thoughts and not all of them believe in the Judeo-Christian God.

5. Again, different cultures = different accepted behaviors = different morals.

6. This is a philosophical question. Evolution is a scientific theory dealing with, surprise, science. Here's a challenge: Find at least 3 philosophers before 1800 who pondered whether or not morality exist. Bet you do it easy as pie with a simple google or wiki search.

7. Because we had the medical know-how and technology and social acceptance people who felt they needed to be the opposite sex well before evolutionary theory came along. Oh wait. No we didn't. Correlation =/= causation. Unless you want to start blaming Christianity for everything good or bad ever to happen since Jesus walked the earth.

8. Because, again, goodness knows people were never attracted to, or had relations with the same sex before the 1850s. Oh wait.

9. Ever heard of paederasty? Also spelled pederasty? Look it up. Long before 1850s. Next.

10. Again, different cultures, different morals. Also, people have been promiscuous since long before evolution was around. How does the saying go, the two oldest professions are soldier and harlot?

11. I really don't even get what this has to do with evolution at all. Ever hear of hellebore? It's a plant that's a proven abortion-inducer known from antiquity. There are records from old Chinese dynasties of which Emperor's concubines had abortions. No, it's nothing new.

As for all the rhetoric about 'evolutionists wanting humanity to be animals so they can be immoral', it's sheer hogwash. There are no 'evolutionists' with agendas to take away societal morality. Evolution is a science theory, dealing with science, that leaves morality and the supernatural alone. Anything tacked on to that is put there dishonestly by propaganda groups who are more often than not Christian and give us fellow Christians who are intellectually honest a bad name.

Metherion

 

[Mallon]

Sorry, but before Darwin, most humans knew:

1) Why animals can't breed human descendants

Not true. The idea that humans descended from animals existed long before Darwin developed his theory. See:
Evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Common descent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Darwin simply provided a mechanism -- an explanation for how evolution happened. But the idea existed long beforehand.

2) The difference between humans and animals

Not true. People were drawing comparisons between humans and other animals long before Darwin did. Sir Richard Owen, a renowned anti-Darwinist and the founder of comparative anatomy, constantly noted similarities between humans and other animals in order to develop his model of the vertebrate archetype. Even the Bible draws parallels between humans and animals, particularly with regards to our origins from the Earth in Genesis 1.

3) What a pregnant woman is carrying inside of her

Not true. The modern cell theory of human development didn't exist until the late 19th century. Before then, people subscribed to the idea of preformatism, including the authors of the Bible, who compared a man's sperm to seed and a woman's womb to a fertile (or sometimes barren) field.

4) When life begins

Not true. There were many creation myths around long before Darwin was ever born, almost all of which differ in the details of who, what, when, where, and why:
Creation myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5) Why marriage is between a man and a woman

Not true. Same-sex marriage existed long before Darwin:
History of same-sex unions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

6) That the anus wasn't designed for sexual intercourse

Not true. People practiced anal sex as early as early as the Greeks:
Anal sex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

7) Why promiscuity is destructive

Not true. Promiscuity existed long before Darwin. It's even mentioned in the Bible. Promiscuity was rampant with the Greeks.

8) That God created the human being

Not true. Again, there are many creation myths in the world that existed loooong before Darwin's birth. And again, they differed in the details of who, what, when, where, and why:
Creation myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With respect, your blaming the ails of the world on Darwin doesn't make sense in light of history.

EDIT: It looks as though you've changed your list since I hit the reply button. No matter. My points still stand.

 

[praying]

Sorry, but before Darwin, most humans knew:

1) Why animals can't breed human descendants
2) The difference between humans and animals
3) What a pregnant woman is carrying inside of her
4) When life begins
5) Why marriage is between a man and a woman
6) That the anus wasn't designed for sexual intercourse
7) Why promiscuity is destructive
8) That God created the human being

For starters. Today, most humans don't know the above! So sorry, but once Darwin claimed we were animals, than we can act no better than animals. That's logic 101. But people who've been brainwashed don't use reason because they're told that those who are brainwashing them know better than they do.

LOL..that is funniest thing I have read in a while. Before Darwin people also knew:

Slavery was good and acceptable
That witches should be burned at the stake
The earth was flat
Medieval theology held that infidels and barbarians are not entitled to humanistic considerations.
Women should have no rights

The list goes on with crazy beliefs. Human progress; intellectual evolution is a good thing.

 

[peace4ever]

LOL..that is funniest thing I have read in a while. Before Darwin people also knew:

Slavery was good and acceptable
That witches should be burned at the stake
The earth was flat
Medieval theology held that infidels and barbarians are not entitled to humanistic considerations.
Women should have no rights

The list goes on with crazy beliefs. Human progress; intellectual evolution is a good thing.

When scientists agree with God, they are always right. When they disagree with God they are always wrong.

And considering that the bible says that the earth was a circle, then even the first people on earth knew that the earth was round. It's only the secular world who is confused about what's true and false.

And witches do exist. Today their groups call themselves "Wicca."

And the depravity of the people on earth prove we deserve nothing more than to be burned up, which will definitely happen as the secular world will find out on judgment day.

So you don't understand history any more than you understand biology or what the guilty deserve.

 

[pgp_protector]

When scientists agree with God, they are always right. When they disagree with God they are always wrong.

And considering that the bible says that the earth was a circle, then even the first people on earth knew that the earth was round. It's only the secular world who is confused about what's true and false.

And witches do exist. Today their groups call themselves "Wicca."

And the depravity of the people on earth prove we deserve nothing more than to be burned up, which will definitely happen as the secular world will find out on judgment day.

So you don't understand history any more than you understand biology or what the guilty deserve.

So are you going to obey God or disobey God ?

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

 

[Mallon]

When scientists agree with God, they are always right. When they disagree with God they are always wrong.

And considering that the bible says that the earth was a circle, then even the first people on earth knew that the earth was round. It's only the secular world who is confused about what's true and false.

A circle is still a flat object. A sphere is a three-dimensional object. And the Hebrews had a word for sphere: "duwr" (literally, "ball"). Interestingly, they never use that word in reference to the earth. Instead, they speak of the earth having edges, like "clay under a seal" (Job 38:13-14).
praying is right. The first Hebrews really believed the earth was flat. The Bible tells us so. All the more reason not to read the Bible as a science textbook. It is a spiritual book, "expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words" (1 Cor 2:13).

 

[PaladinValer]

In order to dupe the world that animals can turn into people, Darwin has tried to make humans animals so people will believe that one can breed the other.

Humans are mammals.
All mammals are animals.
Therefore, humans are animals.

P -> Q
Q -> R
Therefore P -> R (Dynamic Syllogism)

If the above is your entire premise, I needn't go further.

And since most people can't think for themselves but instead, have blind faith in scientists, they're not hard to dupe as the world has shown...especially if they can see pictures of skull fragments and random bones.

You've contradicted yourself entirely.

Blind faith means simply trusting without any evidence, yet you admit there is evidence.

What separates humans from animals is the human capacity for reason and understanding higher values than bodily gatification.

You don't know much about zoology do you? Do you have any clue how learned some other species are? Particularly apes and monkeys, but also such species as octupi and whales.

But since scientists have encouraged society to lose their reason and unquestioningly follow them (which is why no other accounts of creation are allowed in the schools except evolution so children can be brainwashed from an early age)

EARLY AGE?!

Biology isn't taught in most schools until at least middle school; they are TEENAGERS by then.

Furthermore, the reason why Creation isn't allowed in science classrooms is because IT ISN'T SCIENCE.

then the following is how the Darwin Delusion has changed society:

1) Confusion over when life begins

I seriously hope you aren't serious. Study past civilizations; people have had different ideas of when life beings since the advent of civilization.

2) Confusion over what marriage is

See my above.

3) Confusion over what each animals and human can breed

You've lost me here.

4) Confusion over what a human being is

The problem was solved with the advent of modern biology. Case closed.

5) Confusion over morality

See my reply to your 1st point.

6) Confusion over what right and wrong is or whether or not right and wrong even eixt!

This deals with philosophy, not science.

7) Gender identity confusion to the point that people are having operations to change their sex

This deals with psychology.

8) Confusion over which sex they were disigned to be attracted to

Evolution has nothing to do with sex but speciation, so I have no clue how you can pull a rabbit out of that hat.

9) Confusion over whether pedophilia is right or wrong
10) Confusion over whether promiscuity is right or wrong

11) Confusion over what a mother is killing when she aborts her baby[/quote]

Ditto my above.

By the way, hello from a fellow animal

 

[Mallon]

You don't know much about zoology do you? Do you have any clue how learned some other species are? Particularly apes and monkeys, but also such species as octupi and whales.

Don't forget elephants! This is amazing:
YouTube - ORIGINAL Elephant Painting
God has truly blessed more than just humans with intelligence.

 

[peace4ever]

Don't forget elephants! This is amazing:
YouTube - ORIGINAL Elephant Painting
God has truly blessed more than just humans with intelligence.

I look forward to the first dissertation by an elephant. In the minds of evolutionists, that's very possible since the imagination is considered evidence in science.

 

[Mallon]

I look forward to the first dissertation by an elephant. In the minds of evolutionists, that's very possible since the imagination is considered evidence in science.

I never claimed elephants had human-level intelligence. But they are clearly intelligent nonetheless. Why are you so resistant to marvel at the blessings God has given His creation?
(Incidentally, I find it ironic that you make such a fuss over human intelligence, while at the same time disparaging every advancement in knowledge we have ever made.)

 

[peace4ever]

A circle is still a flat object. A sphere is a three-dimensional object. And the Hebrews had a word for sphere: "duwr" (literally, "ball"). Interestingly, they never use that word in reference to the earth. Instead, they speak of the earth having edges, like "clay under a seal" (Job 38:13-14).
praying is right. The first Hebrews really believed the earth was flat. The Bible tells us so. All the more reason not to read the Bible as a science textbook. It is a spiritual book, "expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words" (1 Cor 2:13).

For someone who claims to believe the bible, you're sure doing your best to refute it. But that's a divided house since you undermine the very source for your beliefs. Your house, will unfortunately, thus, crumble underneath your feet. So until you understand that the words in the bible can't be refuted, you will always look for contradictions tat aren't there.

The bible never says that the earth isn't a sphere. God knew full well that the earth wasn't a drawing of a circle. Otherwise He couldn't have created gravity and water to stay on the surface of the earth. So your arguments aren't even good because they're contradictory.

 

[Mallon]

For someone who claims to believe the bible, you're sure doing your best to refute it. But that's a divided house since you undermine the very source for your beliefs. Your house, will unfortunately, thus, crumble underneath your feet. So until you understand that the words in the bible can't be refuted, you will always look for contradictions tat aren't there.

I'm not looking to refute the Bible. I'm looking to understand what it means. And when the Bible presents an outdated description of the shape of the universe, then clearly God did not intend that we understand such things literally. The science of the Bible is incidental, used to convey God's intended message concerning our relationship with Him. "Sprititual truths in spiritual words", Paul called it (1 Cor 2:13).

The bible never says that the earth isn't a sphere.

Right. It states that the earth is a circle, and flat like clay stamped under a seal. Again, see the passages I cited earlier. I can cite more, too, if you like.

 

[peace4ever]

I'm not looking to refute the Bible. I'm looking to understand what it means. And when the Bible presents an outdated description of the shape of the universe, then clearly God did not intend that we understand such things literally. The science of the Bible is incidental, used to convey God's intended message concerning our relationship with Him. "Sprititual truths in spiritual words", Paul called it (1 Cor 2:13).


Right. It states that the earth is a circle, and flat like clay stamped under a seal. Again, see the passages I cited earlier. I can cite more, too, if you like.

The bible will always be outdated by the world because the truth never changes and worldly beliefs (lies) always change. That's because Satan is the father of lies and he rules the world. That's why Jesus tells us that the world will reject him and that what is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

So you will never be in the majority if you follow Jesus which is why He, the prophets and apostles were killed. So you need to decide who you want to follow; Jesus, or the world because Jesus tells us they are in conflict with each other and always will be because the world is ruled by Satan and Christ's followers are ruled by the Spirit of God. That's why Jesus tells us in John 15:19-20 that his followers do not belong to the world.

 

[herev]

For someone who claims to believe the bible, you're sure doing your best to refute it. But that's a divided house since you undermine the very source for your beliefs. Your house, will unfortunately, thus, crumble underneath your feet. So until you understand that the words in the bible can't be refuted, you will always look for contradictions tat aren't there.

The bible never says that the earth isn't a sphere. God knew full well that the earth wasn't a drawing of a circle. Otherwise He couldn't have created gravity and water to stay on the surface of the earth. So your arguments aren't even good because they're contradictory.

if you studied up on both Hebrew and Hebrew culture, you'd know he is right about the circle vs the sphere.

 

[herev]

The bible will always be outdated by the world because the truth never changes and worldly beliefs (lies) always change. That's because Satan is the father of lies and he rules the world. That's why Jesus tells us that the world will reject him and that what is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.

So you will never be in the majority if you follow Jesus which is why He, the prophets and apostles were killed. So you need to decide who you want to follow; Jesus, or the world because Jesus tells us they are in conflict with each other and always will be because the world is ruled by Satan and Christ's followers are ruled by the Spirit of God. That's why Jesus tells us in John 15:19-20 that his followers do not belong to the world.

so, you would be part of the world, right?