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Rainbow, God made this after Noah's Flood.
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I talk about this to mathematicians all of the time. It is well known that mathematics is axiomatic at the foundation. This is something you learn in a first year algebra course when you are pounded with definitions, lemmas, corollaries, and theorems. Most people take this for granted, because they use base 10 and 12 mathematics every day, and figure that it must be based on concreteness - since it physically applies to our life, and we can "see" the math working and making sense.
Those sets - or mathematical objects - are by definition abstract objects. So, a set theorist should understand what I am saying from their own intellectual foundation.
All math comes from axiomatic assertions that create a foundation for us to apply meaning to abstract and arbitrary objects we choose to represent something. This goes for all disciplines; it is all arbitrary and abstract.
The number "1" is an element that comes from a set of objects - that are arbitrary. There is no such thing as a ring; we define what a ring is, and appropriate it to the mathematics. There is no such thing as "1," we appropriate that symbol as an element of the real integers, for example: "1" is not a fundamental object of nature; you won't find it in nature. What you perceive in nature is its quantatative representation in nature based on the axiomatic definition we have made of the symbol to explain facets of nature.
Sets are abstract and arbitrary; there is no such thing as a set, as it were mathematically, in nature. We have defined the axiomatic foundations of a set such that we can it in "concrete" life.
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God wiping out nearly all life on earth is symbolic of what? Isn't it just a flood legend being retold from earlier sources?
Also one such flood legend, so I have heard, is from a religion with an archer deity who then sets down his bow (the rainbow) as a gesture of peace. The Bible ripped that story off and here we are.
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From a Christian viewpoint the real account of the Flood event was passed on via the line of true worshipers through Shem to Abraham, to Moses while the twisted accounts you mention arose among those who chose false worship as is evident in the Babylonian pantheon of gods.
PART THREE: THE LINEAGE OF SHEM
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Because people often misinterpret ‘Him’ – that’s how we’ve ended up with so many different religions, all espousing the same basic message (love one another). Of course, many Christians (and members of other religions) believe these different faiths to be works of the Devil.
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In that case you would be contradicting the scripture that tells us that such things were written for our instruction and are not flawed.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the LORD are pure words; As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times.
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I don't believe that all scripture is unflawed. People are always prone to make mistakes. And different people will interpret writings differently.
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Isn't it wonderful how easily atheists can swallow a play on words, which only works in English, as being a scholarly accepted matter of fact.
Regular English gentlemen, them ancients were.
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I don't entirely disagree with your point, but I would think the story he's referring to is more to do with the shape of the rainbow resembling an archery bow rather than word play.
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