Raid on Polygamest Compound, How Do You View It?

[SharonL]

Did you all see the pictures on TV today of Warren Jeffs, the leader of this sick mess, kissing a 12 year old on their "anniversary" - they are married.

I get very upset also - these people lie - they give wrong names - teach their children to lie - many have the same last names, some don't even know their last name - they can live with a mother and dozens of children - then they give the mother to another man and they take on that name.

They have birth certificates to collect the welfare - but when they try to prove who they belong to - there doesn't seem to be any birth certificates.

This is a sick society and my heart breaks for those children who will have no choice but to continue in this life. - They make them start having babies around 12 - 13 and by the time they are 21 they have 4 or 5 kids - where do they go - what do they do - the wife of the man in charge now escaped with 8 children and the horror stories she tells would break your heart - they all look like zombies - can't even carry on a conversation for fear of saying something they will get beaten for.

And by the way - where are all the old people - you don't see any. Where are the handicapped children - you don't see any - one woman escaped with her handicapped child - the leader told her to just let him starve and die. There is more going on there than we know about and to think our tax money is paying for it makes me furious.

 

[T3h0bb3s]

Where Is Your God Now?

 

[Rochir]

My viewpoint is that they trampled the rights of a lot of people and removed forcibly over 400 children and caused untild suffering. ....

I believe they did the right and only GOOD thing to do!

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

I believe they did the right and only GOOD thing to do!

Probably so. But they were on shaky legal ground.

 

[KarrieTex]

They ARE on shaky legal ground and constitutional ground

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

They ARE on shaky legal ground and constitutional ground

I can't disagree with that. But I can't disagree with Rochir either. That makes it a very tough decision.

 

[KarrieTex]

My whole thing is they could have done this correctly and not stepped on the constitution or broke state law.

They did not.

They also could have handled this better but when they are illegally taking children that are barely a week old away from mothers who are legal adults in CPS custody then I have a big issue with that.

 

[enzane1]

Who would want to have more than one wife, one is as much trouble as one could handle. If these people looked and acted like everyone else, the whole country would be behind them. People fear what they don't understand. Don't worry, the government will protect you from yourself. I love this country and the freedoms we used to have.

 

[Simon_Templar]

Why was it the only good thing they could do?

 

[Nadiine]

They also could have handled this better but when they are illegally taking children that are barely a week old away from mothers who are legal adults in CPS custody then I have a big issue with that.

That was what I took issue with - the infants. I stated up front that I think they could have been left until it was sorted out.

 

[KarrieTex]

I would have no issue with any of it if they had conducted themselves legally and correctly.

Now we have a major issue with rights being stomped on.

 

[JDIBe]

As much as I dislike the teachings of this polygamist sect, if they found no evidence of physical abuse, I don't think wholescale removal of ALL the children seems fair if the 2nd article below is accurate. I hear now the judge is trying to impose conditions on the ordered release of the children as well.

Something that really bothered me last night. (I guess it kind of ties all of what we were discussing in this thread together...) Read both of the articles below. Does anyone see a possible connection? I'm not sure if anything like this could happen in our lifetime but not so sure about my daughter's.

I know a lot of people who would be willing to die before they renounce Christianity, but what if they offer to take your children instead and raise them in a "proper manner"?
Kind of a scary thought, isn't it?


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26745
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080522/...gamist_retreat

 

[RedTulipMom]

I briefly heard on the news the other day that hundreds of the children were being sent back to their moms. Does anyone have any links or articles on the updated info? Did all the children go back or just some of them? Are there any pending charges? Have they proven any abuse? Anyone know anything further?

 

[JPPT1974]

It is sad those children are
Being sent back to the home
Knowing that a lot of abuse has
Been going on and that these children
Sadly are being brain-washed!