Racist LDS Prophets

[happyinhisgrace]

That I am aware of, these people, the blacks, were just denied from holding the Priesthood. THat doesn't mean that they were denied access to the temples, or the ability to sustain something at General Conference.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon

What? are you serious? For a man to enter the lds temple, he has to first be given the lds priesthood. What makes you think they were allowed to enter the temples and do the endowments without having the priesthood? IF that were the case, any man could enter the lds temple.

Grace

 

[Wrigley]

Actually, the reason the Lord discontinued the prctice of polygamy at that time was for two reasons. One, the practice was no longer required by the Lord at that time, and two, He did not want man (the government, specifically) to gain control of His temples.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon

The main reason was the mormons wanted statehood. The only way to gain that status was to end polygamy.

 

[Wrigley]

My posts are made to the best of my knowledge, and may be wrong. They are my understanding, though I would love to know the Churches official standing on this.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon

Will that be a standard disclaimer for all you posts?

 

[Wrigley]

It is called "revelation of convenience." When the social pressure of the country made it evident that the LDS were not going to be accepted as another Christian faith, it was convenient to have a "revelation." When it was obvious that the Utah Territory was not going to admited into the United States, polygamy was banned. When schools who had black American athletes started resisting playing LDS schools because of the LDS theology, there was another revelation of convenience.

Sven

That's how I see it too. Convenience. That they have a open revelation just makes it so much more conveniant.

 

[emerald Dragon]

So its possible the LDS church could re-instate polygamy again?

Yes. It is my understanding that the practice will be continued after the Second Comming.

God Bless,
Emerlad Dragon

 

[emerald Dragon]

The main reason was the mormons wanted statehood. The only way to gain that status was to end polygamy.

Wrong. It may appear that way, but the President of the Church, Pres. Woodruff, stated that he would have been content with allowing anything to happen, as long as the practice was allowed. In other words, he would have kept it going, even if it meant that the territory of Deseret wasn't allowed statehood. He issued the Manifesto though, after the Lord instructed him to do so.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon

 

[Tawhano]

emerald Dragon said:
Yes. It is my understanding that the practice will be continued after the Second Comming.

How do you reconcile these verses then?

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

(Book of Mormon | Jacob 2:24)
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.

(Book of Mormon | Jacob 2:26 - 27)
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;

 

[emerald Dragon]

I will answer truthfully and say that I will have to llik taht onw up.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon

 

[94SupraTT]

Did you look it up yet?

 

[oldrooster]

The practice is continued in the next life as well, a man can be sealed to many women in the temple. He is supposed to have those wives in the next life......

 

[Swart]

The practice is continued in the next life as well, a man can be sealed to many women in the temple. He is supposed to have those wives in the next life......

You are reading many things into this. While you could assume this from the facts in evidence, I don't think you will find a doctrinal position on this. Consider:

* In 1890, Plural Marriage was banned in the US, but permitted outside the US. Those already in plural marriages continued in the married state.
* In 1905, the ban was extended to the entire world by Joseph F. Smith.
* Whilst no ban was placed on sealings, several restrictions were introduced to reduce this practice. A divorced man must have a Temple divorce before being sealed to another wife.
* In proxy cases, if a wife has more than one husband she is sealed to both. The reason given is that the wife can then chose to whom she remains sealed.
* It is reasonable to assume that the same may be the case for a man that is proxy sealed to more than one woman. He may choose which wife he remains sealed to.
* It is also reasonable to assume that the man may remain sealed to more than one wife.

All comments must be considered that the 19C church had a very much "in-your-face" policy towards plural marriage with its critics.

I tend to think that the purpose of plural marriage was to raise a righteous generation in the shortest time possible, rather than being an eternal principle - which I think is secondary to its introduction.

 

[oldrooster]

You are reading many things into this. While you could assume this from the facts in evidence, I don't think you will find a doctrinal position on this. Consider:

* In 1890, Plural Marriage was banned in the US, but permitted outside the US. Those already in plural marriages continued in the married state.
* In 1905, the ban was extended to the entire world by Joseph F. Smith.
* Whilst no ban was placed on sealings, several restrictions were introduced to reduce this practice. A divorced man must have a Temple divorce before being sealed to another wife.
* In proxy cases, if a wife has more than one husband she is sealed to both. The reason given is that the wife can then chose to whom she remains sealed.
* It is reasonable to assume that the same may be the case for a man that is proxy sealed to more than one woman. He may choose which wife he remains sealed to.
* It is also reasonable to assume that the man may remain sealed to more than one wife.

All comments must be considered that the 19C church had a very much "in-your-face" policy towards plural marriage with its critics.

I tend to think that the purpose of plural marriage was to raise a righteous generation in the shortest time possible, rather than being an eternal principle - which I think is secondary to its introduction.

I was more referring to, if your wife croaks, then you may marry again. I have a friend who has outlasted 3 wives. I believe that was the original intention as well.