RACISM? No, it is not.

[sethad]

And it is true. There's been a real movement afoot to erase anything perceived as "white" etc. etc. One Liberal MP commented that Halifax was "too white" and suggest the government should look into ways to flood the area with immigrants to "change it". An insulting and racist remark and assault on several levels. It's as if I went to 'Harlem' N.Y.C. and said it was "too Black" and that the place should be erased. Bigotted nonsense.

what nonsense are you talking about?

and are you ever going to answer my posts?

 

[rowena]

msgstephen, get over yourself. Like someone said, cultures change. Thats just what they do.

Until October 18, 1929 women in Canada were not considered persons due to the interpertation of the BNA Act of 1867. Women not being considered as persons is a part of Canadian culture* that has since changed and evolved.

America used to have slavery. That regretable insitution was once apart of Amercian culture*. It has since changed.

England used to be a Catholic country and durning the reign of Henry the 8th became a Protestant country. The state religion influenced the culture* of England and as we can hopefully see, it changed.

*I'm useing the term culture as a very general term, and I would like to state that each of these general cultures have smaller cultures that make them up.

If you or anyone else wants to call it a Christmas tree, so right ahead. I do and I can assure you that I haven't been attacked, yelled at, or even corrected in my nameing it as such. You want to say to people "Merry Christmas", go right ahead. Most people will actually be okay with it, even if they don't celebrate Christmas. Some of them will even wish that you have a Merry Christmas or whatever their December holiday is back. But please knock off this stuff about people wanting to take away your culture. It just makes you look silly and ignorent.

And for the record, I'm about as WASPish as they come. But let me save you the time and effort by admitting that I hate white people, Chrisitanity, and any and everything else that you can come up with. [/sarcasm]

 

[arunma]

I realize the Church is multi-cultural, in that people from all manner of cultures are Christian and participate in the Life of Christ. But I don't think the Church expects all nations and peoples to be one bland mono-culture. I don't think it expects Canadians to erase all the things that make Canadian culture unique. I don't think the Church expects all mention of Christianity and Judeo-Christian ethics to be completley erased from all apsects of public life in the name of 'not offending' anyone who objects to the presence of Christianity in a particular country's culture.

I don't think you fully understand what I'm trying to communicate. I'll try to articulate myself better this time.

I am uninterested in how the church relates to the world. If Canada has references to Christianity, then I fully approve. If the public mention of Christianity is removed from Canada, then let God's will be done. What is important is that different races and cultures within the church embrace each others' differences. There were times in which both racism and so-called "culturalism" were acceptable practices. In those days the Holy Spirit departed from the church, thus allowing professed brothers in Christ to hate one another on the basis of either skin color or cultural distiction.

Due to the work of many godly men, this behavior is being purged from the church. When Christians say things which threaten racial and cultural harmony within the church, they threaten to undo this work. My deep concern is that you speak about white culture (or rather, the sum of all European cultures) and Christianity as if they were the same thing. I am aware that you dislike Muslim and atheist culture, and I don't dispute your right to do so. The important question is this: do you embrace the cultural diversity which exists within the Christian church? The institution to which you claim membership is drawn from all racial and cultural groups. And since we are commanded to have fellowship with one another, it is essential that you feel a passion for fellowship with all of the brothers. Anyone who wishes to separate Christians on the basis of culture opposes the unifying power of the cross. I still haven't heard enough of your comments to understand your position, so I hope you will tell me that you are not such a person who opposes the cultural harmony of the church.

I also hope you will differentiate between the issue of Islamic culture, and the many cultures which exist in the church. Islam requires all humans to submit themselves to one culture, and to one style of living. Christians, on the other hand, have always retained our distinctive cultural practices. More importantly, Christians have shared our cultures with one another, and we have all become more unified from the experience. Unity is the power of the Gospel of Christ Jesus, and it is something that the false prophet Mohammad can never offer us. It is my sincere hope that you are not one of the "culturalists" who seek to empty the cross of its power.

 

[rosenherman]

So then why didn't the Europeans leave their culture behind and adopt the native american culture when they first came to this continent?

There were too few Indians to allow them to learn the Indian culture. Not enough exposure. Had they adopted the Indian culture when they got here, more of them would have lived. This country was vast and the east was sparsely populated they didn't speak the language of the Indians and as the Indians were mighty ****ed at the invaders, they probably weren't in any mood to help.

 

[belladonic-haze]

RACISM? No, it is not. That the Islamic juggernaught has hit a wall in Australia is NOT racism. Most, not all yet, but most "Westerners" do not care about the colour of a person's skin.

Here in Canada, people of every race aspire and attain every career available. Race is not an issue, really.

But, forces that hate traditionally European-based culture and religion will scream "Racism!" should anything get in their way of dismantling everything they perceive as European based.

They want to dismantle democracy, Christianity, self-esteem among whites, Judeo-Christian based ethics and so on.

Get in their way and suddenly they scream "RACIST!".

Now here's an interesting story. The Governor General of Canada, a black woman if that means anything anymore, had a tree put up this year outside her residence in celibration of the Season. Her office, dutifully obedient to the forces that want to destroy all things European based, quickly announced the presence of the tree calling it a HOLIDAY TREE.

The Governor General was shocked. And came out with a statment saying that the tree was definitely NOT a Holiday Tree .. Her Excellency Michaelle Jean made sure everyone in the country knew very well it was a CHRISTMAS TREE.

Since then, several municipalities in Canada have officially returned to calling a kettle a kettle and a Christmas Tree a Christmas Tree.

It's not racism, it's claiming one's rightful culture.

Why should traditionally Judeo-Christian and European culture countries submit every time? Why should it be their culture that is endlessly diminished? People are beginning to stand up against the onslaught against them.

If it is not racism it is stupidity!

 

[rosenherman]

So lets see, you're saying that pluralism is an example of why American culture is superior (ignoring the fact that pluralism is not a uniquely American political phenomenom for now), which is why people should leave their cultures behind when they come to America?

*pulls fragments of irony meter out of backside*

No, I'm saying that freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion are examples of why American culture is superior. People do leave their cultures behind when they emigrate. It's not a question of whether they should. The fact is that they do. Part of why you're leaving your own country is because for one reason or another, you are unhappy there, very unhappy, if you weren't you wouldn't go to the trouble and upheaval of immigrating. If you bring your culture with you, you are bringing part of what made you so unhappy in the land of your birth with you. If you're smart enough to immigrate, you're smart enough not to bring everything with you from "the old country".

*here's some iodine and bandaids for your butt, and toothpaste to get the taste of your foot out of your mouth

 

[belladonic-haze]

No, I'm saying that freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion are examples of why American culture is superior.

The USA is sooo intolerant!!! This is soooo not true!

Discrimination of gays who are not allowed to marry, women who get payed less then men, poor people who are deprived of the same medical care as rich people because they can not afford to pay medical insurrance. Discrmination of colored people (look what happened in New Orleans after the hurricane and what B Bush said)

Don't get me wrong. I love Americans. I respect them and I felt so welcome in the USA when I visited there. I am surely return again to taste the kindness of the USA people. The people are great and I have USA friends whom I love dearly! But the USA isn't far from perfect my dear. And they are NOT surprior.....that is such a scary saying....bbbbrrrrr

 

[sethad]

No, I'm saying that freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion are examples of why American culture is superior. People do leave their cultures behind when they emigrate. It's not a question of whether they should. The fact is that they do. Part of why you're leaving your own country is because for one reason or another, you are unhappy there, very unhappy, if you weren't you wouldn't go to the trouble and upheaval of immigrating. If you bring your culture with you, you are bringing part of what made you so unhappy in the land of your birth with you. If you're smart enough to immigrate, you're smart enough not to bring everything with you from "the old country".

*here's some iodine and bandaids for your butt, and toothpaste to get the taste of your foot out of your mouth

once again...people do NOT leave their cultures behind. they take it with them. most immigrants (there are probably a few who dont) keep their culture when they move to America.

and America is NOT superior. no culture is superior. same as no race is superior.

 

[belladonic-haze]

once again...people do NOT leave their cultures behind. they take it with them. most immigrants (there are probably a few who dont) keep their culture when they move to America.

and America is NOT superior. no culture is superior. same as no race is superior.

We do not always agree, but hear hear!!! We surely agree on this!!!!

 

[rosenherman]

once again...people do NOT leave their cultures behind. they take it with them. most immigrants (there are probably a few who dont) keep their culture when they move to America. .

Repeating an erroneous statement won't make it right.

and America is NOT superior. no culture is superior. same as no race is superior.

There is only one race, the human race. If American culture is not superior, why is every country on earth copying it and why are people so enamored of it that they break laws and risk death to be here?

 

[belladonic-haze]

Repeating an erroneous statement won't make it right.


There is only one race, the human race. If American culture is not superior, why is every country on earth copying it and why are people so enamored of it that they break laws and risk death to be here?

Because humans THINK that it is surperior, but it just has a BIG MOUTH and meddles in everything that happens......

I agree with you that there is only one race, the human race...... but people split us up in different races.

And my culture is great!!! No need to embrace the american culture.....

 

[belladonic-haze]

Repeating an erroneous statement won't make it right.

Why then do you have china town, Italian ghetto's and so on and so on????? Because they embrace the American culture?

By the way, the original American culture is found in the Indian culture...

 

[sethad]

Repeating an erroneous statement won't make it right.

then stop repeating erroneous statements

There is only one race, the human race.

there is only one race, I agree. but people divide it up into races and so on and not one is better then the next.

If American culture is not superior, why is every country on earth copying it and why are people so enamored of it that they break laws and risk death to be here?

I guess I have to repeat myself since you didnt answer me last time

Name 10 things that are a part of American culture.

 

[rosenherman]

Because humans THINK that it is surperior, but it just has a BIG MOUTH and meddles in everything that happens......

I agree with you that there is only one race, the human race...... but people split us up in different races.

And my culture is great!!! No need to embrace the american culture.....

Great then stay where you are.

 

[sethad]

I guess rosenherman cant answer?

 

[rosenherman]

I guess rosenherman cant answer?

If you won't believe me, why should I waste my breath, when I can just ignore you and your ignorant ranting?

 

[belladonic-haze]

Great then stay where you are.

OUCH....why so aggressive?

Why are they so cranky?​

​

Who is cranky? Me? You can disagree with my government as well. I know I do... ​

 

[sethad]

If you won't believe me, why should I waste my breath, when I can just ignore you and your ignorant ranting?

I'm not ignorant and I'm not ranting. I asked you to show me 10 things that are a part of American culture and American culture alone.

gee. do I sense some hatred?

You say that people come to America and leave their culture behind. I'm speaking from experience, they dont. and until you show me otherwise and prove it to me, I dont believe you or a word that you say about it.

 

[msgstephen]

It's not nonsense - it's fact. What is nonsense is that you post replies when you don't know the issues here in Canada.

 

[sethad]

It's not nonsense - it's fact. What is nonsense is that you post replies when you don't know the issues here in Canada.

And you dont know the issue in America. But you still assume that most non-whites and some whites are anti "white culture" and anti christian. You already accused me of being racist and anti-white at least three times.

You havent proved to me yet that your rights to worship how you please and believe what you want and your freedom of speech has been taken away. and you havent proved that it is the non whites that have caused it.