Rachel weeping

[Kristos]

You are jumping to conclusions again - I did not say anything about praying to them.

So, the dead are aware of all that the Lord reveals to them and the Lord is omniscient and omnipresent, so according to the will of the Lord, He can reveal anything and everything to them, yes?

 

[MamaZ]

Not always is it the person themselves such as Rachael weeping for her children. Read Galatians..

 

[Kristos]

I read it often. Interesting how it related to Habakkuk.

 

[MamaZ]

Also interesting is that the two women in Galatians are spoken of as Covenants.. Not the person themselves.

 

[HandmaidenOfGod]

Yes, even Moses and Elijah were manifested as spirits and spoke before the eyes of Peter, James, and John on the Mount with Jesus. God allows spirits and even angels to manifest themselves in some recognizable form to be seen or to be heard. This happens throughout scripture. But this still does not say anything about praying to them. Anyway, yes I told you in post 5 that I beleive scripture proves their is no such thing as 'soul sleep' as some suggest. Spirits are alive and aware of all that the Lord reveals to them, for they are neither omniscient nor omnipresent. These are attributes only held by God Himself.

If they are aware and are closer to God, why shouldn't we ask for their intercessions? I mean, if there is nothing offensive or ungodly about asking a friend who is on earth for their intercessions, why not ask those who have finished the race before us for their prayers for us?

Remember, we do not worship the saints -- we ask for their intercessions.

 

[DArceri]

Originally Posted by HandmaidenofGod

If they are aware and are closer to God, why shouldn't we ask for their intercessions? I mean, if there is nothing offensive or ungodly about asking a friend who is on earth for their intercessions, why not ask those who have finished the race before us for their prayers for us?

Maybe because there is no precedent in all of scripture of saints ever being prayed to. Maybe because they can't hear our prayers since they are not omniscient and omnipresent. Maybe because Jesus is our High Priest and Mediator. Maybe because we are told not to call out to spirits in Heaven or Hell. Anyone want to add to this list????

 

[namericanboy]

Do you hear the story that just recently happened in Gaza during the battle..A few soldiers were going into a house at night that has hamas at the back and the door was booby trapped..A woman appeared and said she was Rachel from the bible and told them to stop and saved their lives..