Race relations

[theFijian]

BBC News - Eric Garner death: Fresh protests across US cities

With the unrest across the US my first reaction was one of "I'm glad it's not like that here".

But then, do we as Brits have cause to believe relations between ethnic groups in our own country are much better? Sure there's not the same gun violence but is there any less animosity?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Sure there's not the same gun violence but is there any less animosity?

No. It's just that the British don't like to make a fuss in public

 

[Genersis]

I'd like to think it's better here, but I doubt it's much better, if at all.
The quality of our race/ethnic relations probably just doesn't present itself so overtly.

 

[Gadarene]

Well, the Garner case reminds me somewhat of the Mubenga case here:

Jimmy Mubenga 'suffocated to death after G4S guards pinned him down' | Daily Mail Online

I don't think it's that much of an improvement that it was G4S who was responsible rather than one of our police forces.

Then again, I don't buy the racism angle quite so much on these individual cases. You cannot really extrapolate and conclude systemic abuse and discrimination from these single cases, and very often the racial difference results in greater coverage by default.

There's a rather good series on a blog by writer Will Shetterly called "Excluded by Intersectionality" that shows how very often similar acts of police brutality/overzealousness do affect white people as well, but they rarely get as much coverage.

Social Justice Warriors: Do Not Engage: excluded by intersectionality

This one I found particularly notable.

http://sjwar.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/excluded-by-intersectionality-two-white.html

I haven't seen "Christopher Roupe" or "Nick King" become rallying calls, unlike "Tamir Rice". Then again, maybe the cops involved did get hauled over the coals for their mistakes in those cases, rather than being let off by grand juries or whatever.

 

[Dragons87]

I think there is a lot of simmering racism underneath the surface, not just in the shires but even in the supposedly multicultural towns and cities.

 

[Paradoxum]

*pokes head out of bubble* Is there any animosity?

 

[All Englands Skies]

I think there is a lot of simmering racism underneath the surface, not just in the shires but even in the supposedly multicultural towns and cities.

The Rosy "Political" Multiculturalism foisted by the media is a comfortable middle class invention, largely carried by those who don't have a clue, their "multiculturalism" being the Uni's of the land, where there are many different people, but most being tunnel-vision'd alike.

 

[lismore]

*pokes head out of bubble* Is there any animosity?

A fair question. I haven't seen any.

 

[Miser]

Funny fact, when the Americans were stationed in the UK in WW2 they brought segregation with them, demanding separate seating areas in cinemas etc. Most Britons were very shocked by this behavior

BLACKS IN BRITAIN, 1942 - NYTimes.com

 

[Dragons87]

The Rosy "Political" Multiculturalism foisted by the media is a comfortable middle class invention, largely carried by those who don't have a clue, their "multiculturalism" being the Uni's of the land, where there are many different people, but most being tunnel-vision'd alike.

In theory I'm quite for multiculturalism and the mixing of cultures - I'm one of those idealistic types - but on a realistic level I understand why there is so much concern about immigration, as it is perceived to be too big in volume and too fast in speed. It is unfortunate that people seem to be unable to untangle the topic of immigration from the topic of racism.

 

[Paradoxum]

A fair question. I haven't seen any.

 

[lismore]

Sure there's not the same gun violence but is there any less animosity?

I think most people here would perhaps agree with me. But I think that a person who showed animosity towards another person, a stranger or acquaintance, solely or mainly on the basis of their skin colour or ethnicity, the person showing the animosity is completely unhinged.

God Bless

 

[theFijian]

I think most people here would perhaps agree with me. But I think that a person who showed animosity towards another person, a stranger or acquaintance, solely or mainly on the basis of their skin colour or ethnicity, the person showing the animosity is completely unhinged.

God Bless

Whilst that is something we would all agree with consciously (hopefully), subconsciously we all make subtle pre-judgements based on appearance, including skin colour or ethnicity, I think it's unavoidable.

 

[savedbygrace05]

Whilst that is something we would all agree with consciously (hopefully), subconsciously we all make subtle pre-judgements based on appearance, including skin colour or ethnicity, I think it's unavoidable.

You missed a category - ordained ministers

 

[Bungle_Bear]

You missed a category - ordained ministers

Do you understand that the word "including" indicates that the list that follows is not complete or comprehensive?

 

[savedbygrace05]

Do you understand that the word "including" indicates that the list that follows is not complete or comprehensive?

Got me again! Happy CHRISTmas

 

[theFijian]

Do you understand that the word "including" indicates that the list that follows is not complete or comprehensive?

Good luck getting a straight answer