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The Sovereignty God and Human Freewill
"We like God reigning in a universal way, as in keeping hurricanes out to sea, or keeping the planets in their fixed orbits. We especially like God keeping traffic moving smoothly as we go to work. In these situations, we endure God on His throne, and if He obediently sits on this throne, built by our egocentric imaginations, we will lift holy hands singing, "Our God Reigns!""




*how many Christians are hypocritical regarding The Sovereignty of God .......:doh:
 

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cygnusx1 said:
... In these situations, we endure God on His throne, and if He obediently sits on this throne, built by our egocentric imaginations, we will lift holy hands singing, "Our God Reigns!"" ...
I like this one by Dorothy Sayers (written during the Hitler era):

“‘Why doesn’t God smite this dictator dead?’ is a question a little remote from us. Why, madam, did He not strike you dumb and imbecile before you uttered that baseless and unkind slander the day before yesterday? Or me, before I behaved with such a cruel lack of consideration to that well-meaning friend? And why, sir, did He not cause your hand to rot off at the wrist before you signed your name to that dirty little bit of financial trickery? You did not quite mean that? But why not? Your misdeeds and mine are nonetheless repellant because our opportunities for doing damage are less spectacular than those of some other people.”
-- Radagast
 
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT:

INDIFFERENCE
Indifference is the most horrible, inexcusable evil to be found in a believer. If there is one thing that might pierce the heart of our beloved Redeemer with unutterable grief it is not the iniquity of the world or even the heresies of false religion but the base indifference of His church, the bride He has chosen, redeemed and saved by His own blood and free grace. Indifference to Christ is the first step of apostasy from Christ. God, save me from indifference.


DON FORTNER​
 
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De Servo Arbitrio

(On the Bondage of the Will)

Abridged

1525 A.D.

Martin Luther

The comfort of knowing that salvation does not depend on "free-will"

I frankly confess that, for myself, even if it could be, I should not want "free-will" to be given to me, nor anything to be justify in my own hands to enable me to endeavor after salvation; not merely because in face of so many dangers, and adversities, and assaults of devils, I could not stand my ground and hold fast my "free-will" (for one devil is stronger than all men, and on these terms no man could be saved); but because, even were there no dangers, adversities, or devils, I should still be forced to labor with no guarantee of success, and to beat my fists at the air. If I lived and worked to all eternity, my conscience would never reach comfortable certainty as to how much it must do to satisfy God. Whatever work I had done, there would still be a nagging doubt as to whether it pleases God, or whether He required something more. The experience of all who seek righteousness by works proves that; and I learned it well enough myself over a period of many years, to my own great hurt. But now that God has taken my salvation out the control of my own will , and put it under the control of His, and promised to save me, not according to my working or running, but according to His own grace and mercy, I have the comfortable certainty that He is faithful and will not lie to me, and that He is also great and powerful, so that no devils or opposition can break Him or pluck me from Him. "No one," He says, "shall pluck them out of my hand, because my father which gave them me is greater than all" [John 10:28-29]. Thus it is that, if not all, yet some, indeed many, are saved; whereas, by the power of "free-will" none at all could be saved, but every one of us would perish. Furthermore, I have the comfortable certainty that I please God, not by reason of the merit of my works, but by reason of His merciful favor promised to me; so that, if I work too little, or badly, He does not impute it to me, but with fatherly compassion pardons me and makes me better. This is the glorying of all the saints in their God.
 
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THE DANGER OF SLEEP:
There are certain conditions of the human frame in which sleep becomes absolutely deadly: the poor patient must be kept in motion, must be wounded with needles, roughly treated lest he should sleep; and there are times when, if we are permitted to sleep spiritually, it must end in our eternal ruin. At such times, when we feel the slumbering tendency coming over us, we ought to be alarmed lest we should turn out to be as others who sleep themselves into hell. May God awaken us, though it may be by thunderbolts; may he shake us, even though it be with his roughest hand, and break us with his fiercest tempest, sooner than suffer us quietly and calmly to glide down the stream of indifference until we are dashed over the precipice of apostasy and are lost.

C.H. SPURGEON​
 
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Defection from Doctrine


by J. C. Ryle




"Crowds, and crying, and hot rooms, and high-flown singing, and an incessant rousing of the emotions, are the only things which many care for. Inability to distinguish differences in doctrine is spreading far and wide, and so long as the preacher is ‘clever’ and ‘earnest,’ hundreds seem to think it must be all right, and call you dreadfully ‘narrow and uncharitable’ if you hint that he is unsound."
 
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C.H. Spurgeon

"Then I must ask one more question: if all that were needed was to make a man willing, do you not at once degrade the Holy Spirit? Are we not in the habit of giving all the glory of salvation wrought in us to God the Spirit? But now, if all that God the Spirit does for me is make me willing to do these things for myself, am I not in a great measure a sharer with the Holy Spirit in the glory? and may I not boldly stand up and say, 'It is true the Spirit gave me the will to do it, but still I did it myself, and therein I will glory; for I did these things myself without assistance from on high, I will not cast my crown at his feet; it is my crown, I earned it, and I will keep it.'"​
 
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This is part of Calvin's 'Reply to Cardinal Sadolet':



"We are assailed by two sects which seem to differ most widely from each other. For what similitude is there in appearance between the Pope and the Anabaptist? And yet, that you may see that Satan never transforms himself so cunningly as not to in some measure to betray himself, the principle weapon with which they both assail us is the same. For when they boast extravagantly of the "Spirit", the tendency certainly is to sink and bury the Word of God, that they may make room for there own falsehoods."

 
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Compromise

by Charles H. Spurgeon




"Believers in Christ’s atonement are now in declared union with those who make light of it; believers in Holy Scripture are in confederacy with those who deny plenary inspiration; those who hold Evangelical doctrine are in open alliance with those who call the Fall a fable, who deny the personality of the Holy Ghost, who call justification by faith, immoral, and hold that there is another probation after death.... Yes, we have before us the wretched spectacle of professedly orthodox Christians publicly avowing their union with those who deny the faith, and scarcely concealing their contempt for those who cannot be guilty of such gross disloyalty to Christ. To be plain, we are unable to call these things Christian unions, they begin to look like confederacies in evil.... It is our solemn conviction that where there can be no real spiritual communion there should be no pretense of fellowship. Fellowship with known and vital error is participation in sin."
 
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Particular redemption is the only triune, monotheistic, substitutionary, personal, effectual, and biblical (hence, orthodox) doctrine of Christ's atonement; all else (including fundamentalism's redemption for every individual) are doctrines pleasing to men but unsatisfactory in their Theology, anthropology, and soteriology. Sola Scriptura!

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He writes:


"Next to the study of the Scriptures which I earnestly inculcate, I exhort my pupils to peruse Calvin's Commentaries, which I extol in loftier terms than Helmich himself; for I affirm that Calvin excels beyond comparison in the interpretation of Scripture, and that his commentaries ought to be more highly valued than all that is handed down to us by the library of the “Fathers”; so that I acknowledge him to have possessed above all other men, what may be called an eminent spirit of prophecy." (Jacabus Arminius)
 
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Greetings: I originally assembled this as a reading for Sunday worship, but I had it out again today to share with someone here at CF and, though fairly long, thought it was a worthwhile enough read to post in this thread too.

by John Calvin – Excerpts from "Institutes"



1. THE VANITY OF THIS LIFE



“Whatever kind of tribulation presses upon us, we must ever look to this end: to accustom ourselves to contempt for the present life and to be aroused thereby to meditate upon the future life. For since God knows best how much we are inclined by nature to a brutish love of this world, He uses the fittest means to draw us back and to shake off our sluggishness, lest we cleave too tenaciously to that love…For this we must believe: that the mind is never seriously aroused to desire and ponder the life to come unless it be previously imbued with contempt for the present life.” (Institutes 3:9:1)



2. OUR TENDENCY TO LEAVE UNNOTICED THE VANITY OF THIS LIFE



"Indeed, there is no middle ground between these two: either the world must become worthless to us or hold us bound by intemperate love of it(but) ... forgetful not only of death but also of mortality itself, as if no inkling of it had ever reached us, we return to our thoughtless assurance of earthly immortality. Who, then, can deny that it is very much worthwhile for all of us … to be convinced of the miserable condition of earthly life." (Institutes 3:9:2)

(A right estimate of the present life, which is transient and unsatisfying, leads us to meditate on the life to come)



3. GRATITUDE FOR EARTHLY LIFE!



"But let believers accustom themselves to a contempt of the present life that engenders no hatred of it or ingratitude against God. Indeed, this life, however crammed with infinite miseries it may be, is still rightly to be counted among those blessings of God which are not to be spurned …We must, then, become so disposed and minded that we count it among those gifts of divine generosity which are not at all to be rejected." (Institutes 3:9:3)



4. THE RIGHT LONGING FOR ETERNAL LIFE



"Now whatever is taken away from the perverse love of this life ought to be added to the desire for a better one. I confess that those showed a verysound judgment who thought it the best thing not to be born, and the nextbest thing to die as quickly as possible [cf. Ecclesiastes 4:2-3]. Since they were deprived of the light of God and true religion, what could they see in it that was not unhappy and repulsive? And they did not actwithout reason who celebrated the birthdays of their kindred with sorrow and tears, but their funeral rites with solemn joy. But they did this without profit because, bereft of the right teaching of faith, they did not see how something that is neither blessed nor desirable of itself can turn into something good for the devout.

Let the aim of believers in judging mortal life, then, be that while they understand it to be of itself nothing but misery, they may with greater eagerness and dispatch betake themselves wholly to meditate upon that eternal life to come. When it comes to a comparison with the life to come, the present life can not only be safely neglected but, compared to the former, must be utterly despised and loathed. For, if heaven is our homeland, what else is the earth but our place of exile? If departure from the world is entry into life, what else is the world but a sepulcher? And what else is it for us to remain in life but to be immersed in death? If to be freed from the body is to be released into perfect freedom, what else is the body but a prison? If to enjoy the presence of God is the summit of happiness, is not to be without this, misery? But until we leave the world “we are away from the Lord” [2 Corinthians 5:6]. Therefore, if the earthly life be compared with the heavenly, it is doubtless to be at once despised and trampled under foot. Of course it is never to be hated except in so far as it holds us subject to sin; although not even hatred of that condition may ever properly be turned against life itself." (Institutes 3:9:4)
 
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cygnusx1 said:
Particular redemption is the only triune, monotheistic, substitutionary, personal, effectual, and biblical (hence, orthodox) doctrine of Christ's atonement; all else (including fundamentalism's redemption for every individual) are doctrines pleasing to men but unsatisfactory in their Theology, anthropology, and soteriology. Sola Scriptura!

Greg Bhansen

I like this one.

Soli Deo Gloria

Jon
 
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