Quick Question for IDers

[quatona]

In your terminology, are "creating" and "designing" synonyms?

 

[Radrook]

In your terminology, are "creating" and "designing" synonyms?

Definition of design

transitive verb
1 : to create, fashion, execute, or construct according to plan :

Definition of CREATE

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Definition of Create

transitive verb

1 : to bring into existence <God created the heaven and the earth — Genesis 1:1(Authorized Version)>

2 a : to invest with a new form, office, or rank <was created a lieutenant>b : to produce or bring about by a course of action or behavior <her arrival created a terrible fuss> <create new jobs>

Definition of DESIGN

 

[quatona]

So "creating" isn´t the same as "designing" but is a subset of it?
And "designing" is a subset of "creating"?
Something like that?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

In your terminology, are "creating" and "designing" synonyms?

Depends if you just want random creations or creations according to a plan.

Isn't that what evolutionists believe, that a random creation made everything that works according to non random processes so well we can make laws that describe them consistently day after day.

So which is more believable, randomness or design?

Since after all nothing works on randomness.

 

[Radrook]

So "creating" isn´t the same as "designing" but is a subset of it?
And "designing" is a subset of "creating"?
Something like that?

Well, one can design as one is in the process of creating. As a poet I do it all the time.

 

[quatona]

Depends if you just want random creations or creations according to a plan.

I am asking you what you want.

 

[quatona]

Well, one can design as one is in the process of creating. As a poet I do it all the time.

And according to your definitions you can design something that you haven´t created, and you can create something that is yet to be designed.

 

[Radrook]

And according to your definitions you can design something that you haven´t created, and you can create something that is yet to be designed.

If I accept the dictionary definition that they can be considered the same then I can't design without creating and can't create without automatically designing. In short, under that definition the act of designing itself is an act of creation and an act of creation constitutes an act of designing.

BTW
I depend on the dictionary for my definitions just like everyone else.

 

[quatona]

If I accept the dictionary definition that they can be considered the same then I can't design without creating and can't create without automatically designing. In short, under that definition the act of designing itself is an act of creation and an act of creation constitutes an act of designing.

Except there are more than one definitions given for each word. That´s why I am asking you IDers what exactly you mean.

 

[Radrook]

Except there are more than one definitions given for each word. That´s why I am asking you IDers what exactly you mean.

What I mean is determined on what you are planning to say when I respond with any particular choice and since I don't know I won't commit myself to any specific one. So what are you planning to say?

 

[quatona]

What I mean is determined on what you are planning to say when I respond with any particular choice and since I don't know I won't commit myself to any specific one. So what are you planning to say?

Paranoia? Projection?
I´m not planning to say anything. I am asking a question.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm not an IDer, but I'll make a contribution here:

In your terminology, are "creating" and "designing" synonyms?

No.

Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Matthew 13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Notice the three steps here?

1. Earth starts out as "without form and void."

2. The Holy Spirit moves upon it, shaping it into a ...

3. ... pearl (oblate spheroid) of great price.

 

[quatona]

I'm not an IDer, but I'll make a contribution here:No.

Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Matthew 13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Notice the three steps here?

1. Earth starts out as "without form and void."

2. The Holy Spirit moves upon it, shaping it into a ...

3. ... pearl (oblate spheroid) of great price.

I´m sorry, but I see no mentioning of the terms "designing" or "creating" here.

 

[AV1611VET]

I´m sorry, but I see no mentioning of the terms "designing" or "creating" here.

Neither one of those terms are in the Bible.

 

[quatona]

Neither one of those terms are in the Bible.

Yes, that´s why I fail to see how your response was an answer.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, that´s why I fail to see how your response was an answer.

You fail to see NO as an answer?

 

[durangodawood]

Yes, that´s why I fail to see how your response was an answer.

You should have phrased your OP as a "challenge".

 

[AV1611VET]

You should have phrased your OP as a "challenge".

I was thinking the same thing!

 

[quatona]

You fail to see NO as an answer?

Ah, sorry, I missed that. My apologies.

 

[quatona]

You should have phrased your OP as a "challenge".

In order to make respondents even more defensive than they are anyway?