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I’m writing a paper for school, but I still haven’t decided what position I should take on the issue. I wanted to get other people’s opinions first.
Do you think homosexuality is a mental illness? Should it be treated- is it even ethical to treat homosexuality?
The thing is, it seems to me if you are going to say homosexuality is an illness, you could just as easily argue that heterosexuality is an illness, too.
Why doesn’t god like homosexuality? I thought about it, and it seemed like it kinda of makes sense- why wouldn’t you like someone who is more like yourself?
And another thing I’m confused about- can you be sexually active with the same sex and still be heterosexual? I mean, sex is sex, you don’t have to love someone to do that with them. Are you only homosexual for loving someone of the same sex, or for having sex with them...?
 

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Wow you have some really loaded questions in there. I can't remember exactly where it says, but in Romans, I believe it says something along the lines of homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. So right there it tells that it is wrong. The reason? I would say because while on earth God joys in us bring life into the world. You cannot bring life into this world with two men or two women. You need a man and a woman in order to create life. That all began with Adam and Eve. Not Adam and another man or even Eve with another woman. It started with Adam and Eve. Additionally, sex is supposed to be something shared between a man and a women who are married. It states this in the bible. Man and woman being the key. So anyone having sex with someone of the same sex is probably doing it for lustful reason, not for marriage and to procreate. I'm not sure if I really answered your question, but this is my stance on the issue. Oh and also I don't consider it an illness. It is a choice in my opinion. If someone is having feelings about someone of the same sex, they should be praying that these feelings go away instead of pursuing them. Hope this helps.
 
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Tobias66 said:
I’m writing a paper for school, but I still haven’t decided what position I should take on the issue. I wanted to get other people’s opinions first.
Do you think homosexuality is a mental illness? Should it be treated- is it even ethical to treat homosexuality?
It is not a mental illness in that having misplaced sexual desires is not delusional nor a serious imparment to leading a balance, orderly life (acting on those desires may be, however...).

And, yes, it should be treated if at all possible since a homosexual relationship -- no matter how loving, kind, and sincere -- is not as fulfilling as a heterosexual one. Men and women need each other; we may have close friends of the same gender whom we love dearly, but the ideal relationship is between a man and a woman.

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The thing is, it seems to me if you are going to say homosexuality is an illness, you could just as easily argue that heterosexuality is an illness, too.
No, heterosexuality is the way the plumbing is designed, and the way 97% of the human race is oriented. It's like saying that just because 3% of the cars hit telephone poles, shouldn't all cars hit telephone poles? No, that's not what they're designed to do and that's not their optimum fuction.

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Why doesn’t god like homosexuality? I thought about it, and it seemed like it kinda of makes sense- why wouldn’t you like someone who is more like yourself?
Human beings develop emotionally from prepubescence to maturity by starting out preferring only the company of their own sex, and both idealizing and idolizing mambers of their sex to the level of having near romantic crushes on them even though there is no actual sexual desire. However, as we hit adolescence, the brain is supposed to re-wire itself to prefer the company of the opposite sex and to transfer those intense emotional feelings to the sexual desire for the opposite sex. This leads (ideally) to people forming long term stable emotional bonds with their mates.

Gays misapply their sexual desire to members of their own sex. This may be the result of some physiological misfire, it may be emotional miscues, it may be a combination of both. What's key to remember is this: The problem is not the human being who has the misplaced desire, the problem is the desire itself. Gays run the full spectrum of human nature, and they can be nice people or jerks, wise or foolish.

As for God's commandments specifically re sex of any kind: We are taught by Paul in 1 Corinthians that ideally we should be so full of agape (love of God) and philos (brotherly love) that we don't need eros (romantic love). However, if a person can not live without eros, they are to find and marry a suitable person of the opposite sex and to live monogamously with them. Sexual immorality in the form of adultery is specifically forbidden; sexual immorality in the form of pre-marital sex is not specifically banned but certainly never receives any form of approval. Polygamy was tolerated in the Old Testament provided all the wives and concubines had certain legal rights; it was never God's intent for humans to engage in polygamous relationships, and by the time of the latter part of the Old Testament and the New Testament is was not considered accetable (polygamists who converted to Christianity were allowed to keep their relationships, but could not add new partners).

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And another thing I’m confused about- can you be sexually active with the same sex and still be heterosexual? I mean, sex is sex, you don’t have to love someone to do that with them. Are you only homosexual for loving someone of the same sex, or for having sex with them...?
A valid question, and one that shades the nature of the debate, especially in different countries.

In the U.S. and Europe, gays like to claim that anybody who has ever experienced a sexual desire or acted out with a member of their own sex is gay. Truth is, lots of young people don't settle their sexual preferences until late adolescence, early adulthood. Behavior at age 12 does not mean that person is gay or even bi-sexual, for example.

Likewise, in many cultures a passive partner is not considered homosexual if he/she merely allows another person to perform an act on them.

Contrariwise, in some cultures the initiator may be perceived as heterosexual and the recipient homosexual (viz. prison rape).

And just to throw some more stuff into the mix, in some cultures adolescents are supposed to be the sexual playthings of adults of their own sex, so regardless of the minor's feelings in the matter, they are expected to service the adults.

Off hand, I'd say for North America that if a person is forced, coerced, or tricked into a homosexual act, that person is not gay since they didn't seek out the act. This excludes, obviously, people who deliberately look for situations where they can excuse themselves because the were forced, coerced, etc.
 
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Tobias66 said:
I’m writing a paper for school, but I still haven’t decided what position I should take on the issue. I wanted to get other people’s opinions first.
Do you think homosexuality is a mental illness? Should it be treated- is it even ethical to treat homosexuality?
The thing is, it seems to me if you are going to say homosexuality is an illness, you could just as easily argue that heterosexuality is an illness, too.
Why doesn’t god like homosexuality? I thought about it, and it seemed like it kinda of makes sense- why wouldn’t you like someone who is more like yourself?
And another thing I’m confused about- can you be sexually active with the same sex and still be heterosexual? I mean, sex is sex, you don’t have to love someone to do that with them. Are you only homosexual for loving someone of the same sex, or for having sex with them...?
Personally, I know somewhere but I dont know where but Homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God. So I dont necessarily think it is a mental issue. I think it is a decision that people make. God doesnt hate the homosexual he hates the sin that that person is committing. In my opinion I dont see why anyone would want to be gay, but its a lifestyle that we as humans have a right to live. (i would never though). I think as soon as you are in a relationship with someone the same sex as you are you are homosexual. I dont like to see people walking down the street gay or lesbian, the whole thing just grosses me out, but like I have said its a choice you make to become that.

They are some DeEp questions!
 
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Homosexuality was listed in Romans among a laundry list of sins. They were all signs of the fallen human condition that prevented one from entering the Kingdom of God. It wasn't singled out as being worse than any other kind of adultery or even murder. Sin is sin in the eyes of God and, when left unforgiven, it leads to total separation from God.

I refuse to get into any other part of the discussion on this topic. Despite what many may say, we do not totally know what causes people to be gay. We have theories and ideas, but nothing I have seen yet (and believe me, I have been looking for some time) says that X and Y causes one to be gay. By the same token, no treatment I have seen yet will "fix" someone. My take is that the only way to "fix" someone would be to change their heart and mind. No human can do that, only God can do that. We see homosexuality as though we are viewing it through a clouded pane of glass. Someday we will see it clearly, but that day has not arrived.
 
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