Questions to the atheists

[DeepThinker]

I do not fear death it is natural

When my close friends and relatives die i feel the same way as anybody else would but i have extra comfort in knowing there is no afterlife.

There is no reason to believe that god exists.

There are lots of reasons to belive God exists, you just dont belive them, or you have no been introduced to all of them

 

[DeepThinker]

If there was an afterlife that lasted for eternity what would be the point?

You would go out day after day talking to others living in some kind of paradise? Well, even paradise can get boring sooner or later. My question to you beleivers is how do you exactly see the afterlife/eterntiy?

I belive if the afterlife is paradise you wont get bored, firstly because if it is paradice you will be able to do everything,(within reason, no smiting the heathens thats Gods Job) and thats alot of stuff, imagine a whole universe to explore, countless philosophers to talk with, being able to go on all the rides at Alton towers without having to pay!
Secondly I belive you would be on a higher plane of existance so bordom would not realy come into it, in an existance where etternity was a reality, bordom would be sure to be thrown out the window.

 

[Parkspapercut]

Personally I cannot imagine the idea of infinity without the idea of boredom, and actually longing to be back in the world.

 

[DeepThinker]

Personally I cannot imagine the idea of infinity without the idea of boredom, and actually longing to be back in the world.

I doubt anyone can, so you have to think outside the box a little and understand that the next life (if there is one) will not be the same as this one in any way shape or form.

 

[foreverfaithless]

There are lots of reasons to belive God exists, you just dont belive them, or you have no been introduced to all of them

It might be argued that there is a reason to be agnostic, the difference between agnostics and atheists are not important to me.
You can be 100% sure there is no other gods including the god(s) of the bible which is Yahweh , jesus or holy ghost or whatever you want to call it(them).

 

[DeepThinker]

It might be argued that there is a reason to be agnostic, the difference between agnostics and atheists are not important to me.
You can be 100% sure there is no other gods including the god(s) of the bible which is Yahweh , jesus or holy ghost or whatever you want to call it(them).

You can't be 100% sure of anything, to say that you can be is foolish

 

[foreverfaithless]

You can't be 100% sure of anything, to say that you can be is foolish

So you are not 100% sure that the tooth fairy does not exist or that you can see this writing?

 

[Telephone]

You can't be 100% sure of anything, to say that you can be is foolish

"Whoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" (Matthew 5:22)

Would you then accept that there is a chance that the Christian god exists, but he is evil and will throw all his worshippers into eternal flames.

You must at least consider this as a possible option, you cannot rule it out if we can't be sure of anything.

I take it you are not 100% sure of the christian god's benevolence.

 

[DeepThinker]

"Whoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" (Matthew 5:22)

Would you then accept that there is a chance that the Christian god exists, but he is evil and will throw all his worshippers into eternal flames.

You must at least consider this as a possible option, you cannot rule it out if we can't be sure of anything.

I take it you are not 100% sure of the christian god's benevolence.

Yep thats right, I get this alot, but you realy cannot ever be sure of anything even what you see right infront of your eyes, I could explain to you if you would like. the quote itself is taken out of context, contry to poular belife this is not how many Christians examine the Bible

 

[DeepThinker]

So you are not 100% sure that the tooth fairy does not exist or that you can see this writing?

Thats right im not.

 

[foreverfaithless]

Thats right im not.

In that case you are either intellectually incompetent or have a mental health problem. But don't worry about if you are intellectually incompetent a lot of people are and they are not a danger to themselves or society.

 

[DeepThinker]

In that case you are either intellectually incompetent needs or have a mental health problem. But don't worry about if you are intellectually incompetent a lot of people are and they are not a danger to themselves or society.

lol, so Socrates was incompetent?

 

[foreverfaithless]

lol, so Socrates was incompetent?

are you Socrates risen from the grave?

 

[DeepThinker]

are you Socrates risen from the grave?

You've rumbled me, yes I am. lol.

No, though this is his argument, as you seem to know nothing about it I will explain as best I can. Try to have an open mind, this is a philosophy thread after all.

How do you know for absolute cirtain that what you see, or do is real, you could be an element in a computer program or the figment of someones imagination, there are number of possibilities that though unlikely can never be excluded as a possibility therfore nothing is ever 100% cirtain.
Let me explain it another way. All we realy know about anything is cause and effect, if we hit a snooker ball into a group of other balls we accept that it will move the other balls, but we only think that it will because it always has, from this we draw scientific conclusions, but you can never be cirtain they are correct, one day the balls could all start floating up in the air, or the cue ball could explode in a puff of smoke. Though science tells us this is impossible, in actuality we dont even know that science (as we know it) is real.

This may be a difficult concept to grasp, so think on it a while.

If you want a good starting point on Philosophy I recomend "Sophies world" by Jostein Gaarder.

 

[IfIonlyhadabrain]

Logical scepticism has no place in Christianity. This is not the meaning of Faith. God told Abraham to look into the sky, and then told him that his descendants would be as numerous as the stars. This happened at midday, and Abraham could see no stars. The faith of Abraham was not in something that he did not was there, it was of that which he could not see just then, but knew to be true (ie, the vastness of the stars).

We are called to be as children, who are certain in the protection of our parents (whether that certitude be misplaced or not). Faith does not mean belief in something which we believe is possible but really have no idea about it at all. That is nonsense. Faith is putting your trust and belief in what you know, even when it doesn't seem to be true.

We are to be certain of Divine Revelation, just as we are certain of natural revelation (ie, revelation gained through sense perception). Thus, we should find certitide both in religious revelation and scientific discovery. The two, after all, come from God, and as such will be in agreement. If they are not, then, as Ayn Rand might say, you need to recheck your premises, one of them might be wrong (or you may be missing some).

Logical Scepticism has no place in Christianity. We were not given intellects so that we would doubt everything. That is just silly.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I'm an atheist, and I don't believe in any kind of post death experience, and I don't fear death. Due in part to my hate of myself and my fellow man, and my negative life outlook. Meh, both are subject to change, I suppose.

You're a teenager. The teen years are difficult for everyone. Most adults will say that the worst years of their lives were spent going through puberty. Negative feelings about oneself and about life are common to that stage of psychological development, and you'll find it natural to mellow out and even get a brighter outlook after a few years. Cheer up, life gets better.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Eudaimonist]

You can't be 100% sure of anything, to say that you can be is foolish

Are you 100% sure of that?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[foreverfaithless]

Deep thinker how come you have a christian icon yet what you say makes you agnostic?

 

[DeepThinker]

Deep thinker how come you have a christian icon yet what you say makes you agnostic?

No I became Christian after assessing my veiws on life with reason and philosophy, to say that "I" am 100% cirtain there is a God and "I" am 100% cirtain that that God is the one we see in the Bible is an act of faith, I am 100% cirtain in my heart, but my mind dissagrees, I have always followed my heart so I am Christian, however to say that "IT" or "YOU CAN BE" 100% cirtain of anything is an imposibility. Do you understand?

 

[DeepThinker]

We were not given intellects so that we would doubt everything. That is just silly.

I dissagree, but do not think that I am not absolutly sure that God exists, after my search for him, that came through reason and philosophy I came accross the Bible, I do not share many veiws that Christians do that the Bible is the absolute word of God it is true, but from it I felt the messages that God was trying to give us. I can feel his pressence in my life more surely than I have even felt anything before, that is my faith. But it does not mean that I cannot have view on philosophy that do not fit the Christian agenda, im not a sheep, I dont follow blindly