Hello my name is Tyler Reynolds I am here because I like to discuss religion with religious people. I would like right now to ask what your viewpoint is on homosexuality?
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Well Tyler, when I was a born again Christian I felt like I had to hate the sin not the sinner. However that is difficult when you feel like the sin is what defines that person. 1 Corinthians 6:9 says they will not inherit the kingdom of God. Obviously that meant to me that I should not even socialize with these people and when I did they took it as I was looking down on them (which I probably was). However, after leaving the faith (after a long journey to find honesty and truth) I feel a heavy weight lifted off and now I don't have to hate anymore. I can love them as human beings, just like me!
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I agree, "hate the sin, not the sinner". I am not the one who says homosexuality is wrong, God and the Bible do. I know many gay people and are friends with many. My children are also. (hard to not be, living in San Francisco). I do not judge anyones actions or choices. I believe what I believe and I believe in the Bible. Any other questions?
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Does it bother you that will not inherit the kingdom of God? That really bothered me as a Christian that my family and friends that were homosexuals would not be with me in Heaven. If you believe in the Bible that's what it says.
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Of course it bothers me. However, I can only share the Gospel with those who are willing to listen. You must come to Christ on your own. I love everyone as Jesus does, and Jesus loves all sinners...homosexuals and people like me, who sin daily. I try so hard to not to sin, but I have and my sin is not any less than anyone elses, including gay peoples.
It also bothers me that people besides gays that choose to reject Christ will not be in the Kingdom of God either, not just gays
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Turning you back on God doesn't win salvation for them. Better to live your life for God so that they want the peace and happiness you feel. They will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven; neither will Muslims or Bhudists. Nobody comes to the Father but by Jesus. Does the fact that you walked away from your faith make them more likely or less likely to repent? Are they in any way benefitted from your rebellion and sin?
Who did Jesus hate? Nobody. Aren't we supposed to be like Jesus? Jesus loved thieves, harlots and other sinners. He died for them. Maybe if you focused on loving the sinner more than hating the sin you would be a good example of God's love, and they MIGHT find their way to the cross. Isn't it better to be a beacon than a barrier?
Who did Jesus hate? Nobody. Aren't we supposed to be like Jesus? Jesus loved thieves, harlots and other sinners. He died for them. Maybe if you focused on loving the sinner more than hating the sin you would be a good example of God's love, and they MIGHT find their way to the cross. Isn't it better to be a beacon than a barrier?
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If i may, a little perspective. Gays that are outside the church, then we are to care about them as much as anyone else, and desire that they have a relationship with Jesus. Those that claim to be Christian, and practice, then Paul has a good example in 1 Cor 5 of the proper way to deal with that. For those outside the fellowship of believers, we are to care and be concerned for their relationship with the God of the universe. But for those that are actively practicing a gay lifestyle, that are part of our fellowship, then we have been instructed in scripture to forbid them from being a part of the fellowship, unless they repent and return to an abstinent lifestyle. One can have sexually immoral tendencies and temptations. It is acting upon those tendencies and temptations that is the problem. Just like any other sin. We all have temptations from hate which can lead to physical harm or murder, to lust which can lead to sexual immoral behavior. How we act upon that temptation is what can get us in trouble. And not restraining that activity inside fellowship is like a cancer that grows. Or as Paul to the Corinthians made so clear in the above passage, leaven (sin) corrupts the whole loaf (group of believers).
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Hi,
I see by your name that you have come to mock sin. I realize that you probably don't believe it, but the Scriptures say that one day you will answer for that attitude.
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
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I don't really support it.... But as long as they keep it private, I don't mind so much (I'd rather not see men running in the streets in their underwear. Kinda gross).
It's not a way of life I'd want my kids to have either
It's not a way of life I'd want my kids to have either
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I thought the same thing when I saw his "name". Yes, he will have to answer unless he repents.
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Well I basically turned atheists at one time in my life because of homosexuality(I wont go into the story here but you can look at one of the other topics I posted in)but I've come back to christ not long ago and i'm trying my best to inspire others to come back to christ even if we are hated by others. Hate doesn't bring anything but more hate so what the point in hating on others that hate us? That's the way I look at it at least.
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Pretty obviously, given that this is the conservative forum, the moral dimension of homosexuality is something that we're all going to agree on.
That said, I will not judge any individual, because there are complexities associated with any sinful act that no one can know. Whether a person knows something is wrong, whether they have full and free consent, etc., are all things that can impact individual culpability. I would never say that a particular person was in Hell, and I will always sincerely hope that they are not.
With homosexuality, there's also the simple fact that homosexual tendencies in and of themselves do not constitute a sin (since they usually have complicated psychological and probably physiological components contributing to them, they're obviously not chosen in any normal sense of the term). Choosing to act on them does, because of its distortion of the purpose of sexuality.
That said, I will not judge any individual, because there are complexities associated with any sinful act that no one can know. Whether a person knows something is wrong, whether they have full and free consent, etc., are all things that can impact individual culpability. I would never say that a particular person was in Hell, and I will always sincerely hope that they are not.
With homosexuality, there's also the simple fact that homosexual tendencies in and of themselves do not constitute a sin (since they usually have complicated psychological and probably physiological components contributing to them, they're obviously not chosen in any normal sense of the term). Choosing to act on them does, because of its distortion of the purpose of sexuality.
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What is the hate card? You mean like telling them that god hates gays or something like that?
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