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Orthodox Andrew

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mhess13 said:
They don't have any scriptural support whatsoever and they know it. I'm looking for just one TE to at least admit that they believe MAN over the Bible.
Do you think something has to be in the Bible in order to be true? Does this mean that you feel the Pythagorean theorem is false?

I will admit that TE's don't go into denial about the world around them.
 
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mhess13 said:
They don't have any scriptural support whatsoever and they know it. I'm looking for just one TE to at least admit that they believe MAN over the Bible. We all know that's what the issue is, but TEs just won't admit that they simply do not believe the word of God.

In the words of a progressive creationist from Wheaton college:
Pattle P.T. Pun states, "It is apparent that the most straightforward understanding of the Genesis record, without regard to all of the hermeneutical considerations suggested by science, is that God created heaven and earth in six solar days, that man was created in the sixth day, that death and chaos entered the world after the fall of Adam and Eve, that all of the fossils were the result of the catastrophic universal deluge which spared only Noah's family and the animals therewith." [Pattle P.T. Pun, "A Theology of Progressive Creationism," Journal of the American Scientific Affiliation, Vol. 39, No. 1 (Ipswich, MA: March 1987),

Yet he still believes "science" over the Bible. This is called willfully rejecting God's word when you know what it says but still side w/ man.
Mhess, what's really going on here? I have read your posts and repeatedly you insist that people who don't believe as you do not believe in the Bible. Repeatedly we TE's have said that's not so, we do believe in the Bible, so now you say we simply won't admit it. You ask the same questions over and over in different threads, but reject the answers. Why is it that you are "looking for just one TE to admit they believe man over the Bible" Why would you want someone to declare something that is not true?
Do you have some fear of TE's? Did a TE scare you as a child? I fully believe in the Bible as God's living, breathing scriptures. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God--God in the flesh--and that he was born of a virgin, lived a perfect life, suffered and died for my sins, resurrected and ascended into heaven, where he sits at the right hand of God, and from where he will come again to judge the quick and the dead.
I also belive that the two opening Creation stories in the Bible--yes, there do appear to be two--are God's truth from which we can learn about God, man, and the relationship between the two. I do not, however believe that they were EVER intended to be taken literally as in 6 24 hour days.
Why is it that this one thing and this one thing alone makes me less than you, dumber than you, less faithful than you, less of a Bible student that you, or less of a Christian than you?
I look forward to an intelligent, sincere, uninsulting response that genuinely answer the questions if you can muster that
 
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herev said:
Mhess, what's really going on here? I have read your posts and repeatedly you insist that people who don't believe as you do not believe in the Bible. Repeatedly we TE's have said that's not so, we do believe in the Bible, so now you say we simply won't admit it. You ask the same questions over and over in different threads, but reject the answers. Why is it that you are "looking for just one TE to admit they believe man over the Bible" Why would you want someone to declare something that is not true?
Do you have some fear of TE's? Did a TE scare you as a child? I fully believe in the Bible as God's living, breathing scriptures. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God--God in the flesh--and that he was born of a virgin, lived a perfect life, suffered and died for my sins, resurrected and ascended into heaven, where he sits at the right hand of God, and from where he will come again to judge the quick and the dead.
I also belive that the two opening Creation stories in the Bible--yes, there do appear to be two--are God's truth from which we can learn about God, man, and the relationship between the two. I do not, however believe that they were EVER intended to be taken literally as in 6 24 hour days.
Why is it that this one thing and this one thing alone makes me less than you, dumber than you, less faithful than you, less of a Bible student that you, or less of a Christian than you?
I look forward to an intelligent, sincere, uninsulting response that genuinely answer the questions if you can muster that
Well I'm glad that you believe PART of the Bible. You seem to have a grasp of the nature of salvation. That is wonderful to know.
Now if you would just believe the REST of the Bible...
 
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