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Edited to add that this is not my list. I got it from some guy on Facebook, but the thread got deleted so I can't see it, and I can't remember his name to credit him.

1. Please explain how a flight from Sydney to Santiago (7000 miles) in 12:45 min can happen on the FE model. On the FE map, Sydney to Santiago is a 20,500 mile trip. First there is not one commercial plane that can fly nonstop 20,500. Second, to do the trip in 12 hours 45 minutes the plane would be traveling over 1,600 mph.

2. Please explain how a person in Santiago at 11 pm and a person in Cape Town at 4am (Same exact time just 2 different time zones) can both look due south and see the same pole star (Sigma Octantis), On the FE map South for Santiago is about 90 degrees different than South for Cape Town. You cannot see the same star at the same time looking due south as due south is at right angles for these countries on an FE model.

3. Why is the earth shadow on a lunar eclipse a curve? How does the earth even cast a shadow on the moon if the moon is above us on the dome?

4. Why does the sun and moon not follow the laws of parallax? Both rise and set and travel through the sky without changing size. According to parallax, as they move away from us they should be shrinking. This is not observed. They rise and set, they do not expand and shrink as parallax would predict.

5. Why when you climb a tower, the higher you go the further you can see? FE says that we can only see as far as the vanishing point. How does the vanishing point change based on how high you are?

6. Why do all the surveyors using Geodesy say the earth is curved? Are they in also in conspiracy with NASA and the Government as well?

7. Why is the moon inverted in the southern hemisphere vs the northern hemisphere?

8. How does the sun work like a spotlight? Light streams out in all directions. The sun is not directional in how it spreads light. If the sun is above us and does not set no matter where on the FE you are you should be able to see it. Light does not have a limit on travel.

9. If both the sun and moon are above us on the dome, how do we explain a lunar eclipse? Would not the earth have to be between the sun and the moon for the earth to cast a shadow?

10. How do stars rotate around the southern pole star? (Sigma Octantis)

11. Find a webcam from Antarctica and watch how have the part of the year it is in total darkness for days. Explain how this works on an FE model when Antacrtica surrounds the earth.
 
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Tell those people who think the earth is flat to GO read the BIBLE.
tell them to read ISSIAH chapter forty verse
twenty two. if man had read the bible they had known the earth was
circular.
IT is HE that sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth, and its inhabitants
thereof are as grasshoppers,
Perhaps Columbus read the BIBLE and that is why he was wise enough
to believe it was a circle.
PRAISE THE LORD..................and again I say praise the LORD.
 
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Tell those people who think the earth is flat to GO read the BIBLE.
tell them to read ISSIAH chapter forty verse
twenty two. if man had read the bible they had known the earth was
circular.
IT is HE that sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth, and its inhabitants
thereof are as grasshoppers,
Perhaps Columbus read the BIBLE and that is why he was wise enough
to believe it was a circle.
PRAISE THE LORD..................and again I say praise the LORD.
You may want to rethink your argument. It certainly does say "circle" and by definition a circle is one-dimensional and FLAT. It does not say round, sphere or orb. According to Isaiah 40:22 the earth is flat.
 
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So then, you're arguing with grasshoppers ? Grasshoppers arguing with grasshoppers ?
Just wanted to let all know the bible is absolute truth.
and to also encourage some to read it.
 
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It is just as I assumed.
the attack might be against more than just conspiracy .
A circle on paper is flat due to its one dimensional.
but when describing a plant as a circle.............it means sphere too.
I have found when some, but not all, are shown proof in the bible.
they wont take it, because its in THE BIBLE.
anyway.................I am out . my cast rests solid.
 
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It is just as I assumed.
the attack might be against more than just conspiracy .
A circle on paper is flat due to its one dimensional.
but when describing a plant as a circle.............it means sphere too.
I have found when some, but not all, are shown proof in the bible.
they wont take it, because its in THE BIBLE.
anyway.................I am out . my cast rests solid.
Sorry, but your definition of circle defies conventional definition. A circle on paper or in space is irrelevant as it remains a circle whether it is is drawn on one-dimensional paper or hangs in three-dimensional space. A circle in space is a "ring" which is also FLAT.
Yes, it is good advice to read the Bible. The Hebrews certainly knew how to distinguish a flat circle from a sphere/orb as elsewhere in Isaiah it also reads: "and whirl you around and around, and throw you like a BALL into a wide land. There you shall die, and there shall be your glorious chariots, you shame of your master’s house" (Isa 22:18). Thus the Hebraic distinction between flat and round and description of earth as a circular plane contradicts your notion.
 
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Tell those people who think the earth is flat to GO read the BIBLE.
tell them to read ISSIAH chapter forty verse
twenty two. if man had read the bible they had known the earth was
circular.
IT is HE that sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth,

Flat earthers do believe in a circular earth. The earth, however, is a globe, not a circle.

Perhaps Columbus read the BIBLE and that is why he was wise enough
to believe it was a circle.
PRAISE THE LORD..................and again I say praise the LORD.

Columbus knew the earth was a globe. The only thing he had wrong was the circumference.
 
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Is this new? When did people start believing the Earth was flat again? I thought this was settled hundreds of years ago when someone first sailed around the world (Magellan?)

Unfortunately flat earth has become fashionable again, especially among certain segments of the population (especially here in the U.S.).
 
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Is this new? When did people start believing the Earth was flat again? I thought this was settled hundreds of years ago when someone first sailed around the world (Magellan?)
We were all taught that the earth is a globe which revolves around the sun - ever since Copernicus postulated his heliocentric model. Prior to that, people believed that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun, stars and planets revolved around it. It may surprise you to know that there is a debate in the scientific community questioning the Copernican Principle.
Though not necessarily directly related, there are those including myself who question that the earth is round. I don't believe the scriptures teach a globed earth. As with anything, do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
For starter:
 
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You may want to rethink your argument. It certainly does say "circle" and by definition a circle is one-dimensional and FLAT. It does not say round, sphere or orb. According to Isaiah 40:22 the earth is flat.

Not that I'm espousing FE but the Bible also refers to the four corners of the earth. How can the earth be a circle, flat, and be flat?
 
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Here, I'll predict their answers for them:

1. Please explain how a flight from Sydney to Santiago (7000 miles) in 12:45 min can happen on the FE model. On the FE map, Sydney to Santiago is a 20,500 mile trip. First there is not one commercial plane that can fly nonstop 20,500. Second, to do the trip in 12 hours 45 minutes the plane would be traveling over 1,600 mph.

Partway through the flight they use knockout gas on everyone on the plane, then refuel in mid-air, and when everyone wakes up they think less time passed.

2. Please explain how a person in Santiago at 11 pm and a person in Cape Town at 4am (Same exact time just 2 different time zones) can both look due south and see the same pole star (Sigma Octantis), On the FE map South for Santiago is about 90 degrees different than South for Cape Town. You cannot see the same star at the same time looking due south as due south is at right angles for these countries on an FE model.

Obviously one of the 'stars' is just a government weather balloon

3. Why is the earth shadow on a lunar eclipse a curve? How does the earth even cast a shadow on the moon if the moon is above us on the dome?

Secret NASA agents have a base on the moon (which is really only a few dozen km in the sky) and the 'shadow' is just a group of people painting it black during every eclipse, then they wash it off in time for the next one.

4. Why does the sun and moon not follow the laws of parallax? Both rise and set and travel through the sky without changing size. According to parallax, as they move away from us they should be shrinking. This is not observed. They rise and set, they do not expand and shrink as parallax would predict.

The conspiracy uses mirrors to make the moon always look the same size. They can't do the same for the sun, so they came up with a clever excuse - if you've ever heard someone tell you to not look directly at the sun because it can damage your eyesight, that's actually a hoax created by the conspiracy to hide the fact that if people looked at the sun more closely, they'd see it changing size.

5. Why when you climb a tower, the higher you go the further you can see? FE says that we can only see as far as the vanishing point. How does the vanishing point change based on how high you are?

Every tower in the world is built with hypnotic soundwave projectors that make people think they're seeing farther as they go higher. They've also installed them on almost all of the hills and mountains in the world, except for a few like Gangkhar Puensum (which is the real reason no one is allowed to climb it)

6. Why do all the surveyors using Geodesy say the earth is curved? Are they in also in conspiracy with NASA and the Government as well?

Yep

7. Why is the moon inverted in the southern hemisphere vs the northern hemisphere?

They do it with mirrors, just like the answer to number 4

8. How does the sun work like a spotlight? Light streams out in all directions. The sun is not directional in how it spreads light. If the sun is above us and does not set no matter where on the FE you are you should be able to see it. Light does not have a limit on travel.

Light does have a limit on travel, but the conspiracy hid that fact from the world or else they'd realize the truth.

9. If both the sun and moon are above us on the dome, how do we explain a lunar eclipse? Would not the earth have to be between the sun and the moon for the earth to cast a shadow?

See number 3

10. How do stars rotate around the southern pole star? (Sigma Octantis)

An illusion created by a combination of mirrors, weather balloons, and hypnotic drugs released into the atmosphere via chemtrails.

11. Find a webcam from Antarctica and watch how have the part of the year it is in total darkness for days. Explain how this works on an FE model when Antacrtica surrounds the earth.

The webcams are all part of the conspiracy

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Edited to add that this is not my list. I got it from some guy on Facebook, but the thread got deleted so I can't see it, and I can't remember his name to credit him.

1. Please explain how a flight from Sydney to Santiago (7000 miles) in 12:45 min can happen on the FE model. On the FE map, Sydney to Santiago is a 20,500 mile trip. First there is not one commercial plane that can fly nonstop 20,500. Second, to do the trip in 12 hours 45 minutes the plane would be traveling over 1,600 mph.

2. Please explain how a person in Santiago at 11 pm and a person in Cape Town at 4am (Same exact time just 2 different time zones) can both look due south and see the same pole star (Sigma Octantis), On the FE map South for Santiago is about 90 degrees different than South for Cape Town. You cannot see the same star at the same time looking due south as due south is at right angles for these countries on an FE model.

3. Why is the earth shadow on a lunar eclipse a curve? How does the earth even cast a shadow on the moon if the moon is above us on the dome?

4. Why does the sun and moon not follow the laws of parallax? Both rise and set and travel through the sky without changing size. According to parallax, as they move away from us they should be shrinking. This is not observed. They rise and set, they do not expand and shrink as parallax would predict.

5. Why when you climb a tower, the higher you go the further you can see? FE says that we can only see as far as the vanishing point. How does the vanishing point change based on how high you are?

6. Why do all the surveyors using Geodesy say the earth is curved? Are they in also in conspiracy with NASA and the Government as well?

7. Why is the moon inverted in the southern hemisphere vs the northern hemisphere?

8. How does the sun work like a spotlight? Light streams out in all directions. The sun is not directional in how it spreads light. If the sun is above us and does not set no matter where on the FE you are you should be able to see it. Light does not have a limit on travel.

9. If both the sun and moon are above us on the dome, how do we explain a lunar eclipse? Would not the earth have to be between the sun and the moon for the earth to cast a shadow?

10. How do stars rotate around the southern pole star? (Sigma Octantis)

11. Find a webcam from Antarctica and watch how have the part of the year it is in total darkness for days. Explain how this works on an FE model when Antacrtica surrounds the earth.

All questions are at 101 level. This person is far away to the graduation from a school of understanding.
 
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We were all taught that the earth is a globe which revolves around the sun - ever since Copernicus postulated his heliocentric model. Prior to that, people believed that the earth was the center of the universe and the sun, stars and planets revolved around it. It may surprise you to know that there is a debate in the scientific community questioning the Copernican Principle.
Though not necessarily directly related, there are those including myself who question that the earth is round. I don't believe the scriptures teach a globed earth. As with anything, do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
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I can absolutely guarantee, that anything in those clips supposedly in support of a flat Earth are quote mines taken out of context.

As for scientists professing religious beliefs, there is absolutely nothing new there, and only fundamentalists who think science is "The Enemy" could believe that there is.
 
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