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<blockquote data-quote="Tokono" data-source="post: 72283687" data-attributes="member: 406486"><p>Though your post was not directly relating to my questions, I will say that we do not know the true gospel of Christ. Rather what we know, is filtered passages condensed into a lovely narrative known as the Bible - filtered and controlled by none other than the Vatican. Now I am not saying that this in it and of itself does not have merit, however, I've read most of all the books both within the accepted Bible and those that were rejected and they raise a lot of questions. </p><p></p><p>I agree with you that we should repent for our sins, both willful and unintentional, and we should strive to lead "good lives" (or in your terms) "holy lives". </p><p></p><p>In regards to your views on free thinkers, agnostics, and atheist - I can understand how one would come to that viewpoint. However, I do think it is possible to believe in God and accept Jesus while simultaneous doubting the words/actions of men. The bible tells us of a false prophet, and this in essence warrants the questioning of so many who proclaim to know the way of the Gospel and their filtered/controlled text. Humans are greedy by nature, and follow a cause and effect relationship usually within one's own interest. Tell me, would the Bible carry as much weight if there were no notions of eternal damnation? Do you follow the father of your own freewill or simply because you want to be "saved". I value the father, and his son's sacrifice and the gift that he has given us all. However, that does not mean I need to agree with everything that was written over 1,500 years ago by fallible men whether influenced by God or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tokono, post: 72283687, member: 406486"] Though your post was not directly relating to my questions, I will say that we do not know the true gospel of Christ. Rather what we know, is filtered passages condensed into a lovely narrative known as the Bible - filtered and controlled by none other than the Vatican. Now I am not saying that this in it and of itself does not have merit, however, I've read most of all the books both within the accepted Bible and those that were rejected and they raise a lot of questions. I agree with you that we should repent for our sins, both willful and unintentional, and we should strive to lead "good lives" (or in your terms) "holy lives". In regards to your views on free thinkers, agnostics, and atheist - I can understand how one would come to that viewpoint. However, I do think it is possible to believe in God and accept Jesus while simultaneous doubting the words/actions of men. The bible tells us of a false prophet, and this in essence warrants the questioning of so many who proclaim to know the way of the Gospel and their filtered/controlled text. Humans are greedy by nature, and follow a cause and effect relationship usually within one's own interest. Tell me, would the Bible carry as much weight if there were no notions of eternal damnation? Do you follow the father of your own freewill or simply because you want to be "saved". I value the father, and his son's sacrifice and the gift that he has given us all. However, that does not mean I need to agree with everything that was written over 1,500 years ago by fallible men whether influenced by God or not. [/QUOTE]
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