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Pardon my ignorance on this, but I really have no experience regarding Lutherans.. I'm assuming they follow Martin Luther? But wouldn't that be Protestants? I just basically want to know the difference between a Lutheran belief and a non-denominatational<sp?> belief. The reason for this is I'm still in the process of trying to choose a school, and one that seems to provide a good financial aid program is Cal Lutheran. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Other schools I'm considering are Masters College and Pepperdine.. These are all in the Southern California area. Thanks in advance!!! :wave:
 

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Well, I attended a Lutheran church for years, but they were my childhood years,so I'm no expert on the beliefs of Lutherans. To answer one question, though, Lutherans are Protestant. Any non-Catholic Christian is Protestant, I believe.
 
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Hello WWJDThug!
I can answer the Cal Lutheren question. My oldest went there for a year before transfering to a school in Nevada. We live about ten minutes from the campus. My daughter loved it. You do not have to be Lutheren to attend either. The classes are small and the campus is beautiful. It has a very good reputation also. A little expensive though, at least compared to a state college.

Lutherens are Protestants. They are more traditional than a non-denominational church. IE.. sacraments ect.
I'm not a Lutheren so hopefully someone will be able to answer your questions more fully.
Good luck!
Annabel
 
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yes, Lutherans are protestants, no we do not "follow" martin luther, we follow God, just look at HIS word through the eyes of ML.

Lutherans (going by ML) are more traditional than other denominations. we have 2 sacraments (as opposed to the Catholic 7).

there are, however, many different lutheran synods. WELS (which i am) -- wisconsin lutheran synod -- is much more conservative than the others (mainly ELCA & LC-MS).

yes, protestantism "started" with martin luther, but there were others who were also a part of the reform -- like john calvin.

more questions? just post or pm or email me...i will get back to you as soon as possible!
 
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no problem, and most lutheran colleges are pretty leniant on students in regards to classes on religion, etc

i went to an ELCA college (the most liberal lutheran group) and am WELS (most conservative). at dana (where i went) we were required to take one semester of a religion class -- either intro to religion or intro to the bible. they did that so that students could take intro to religion if they did not believe in the entire OT & NT (i.e we had some Jewish students)
 
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I went to a ECLA church for about 2 1/2 years. I liked it, at least at first. The service is very traditional( i was brought up as a catholic,so it was comfortable). Nice people, and a good pastor.
The problem was that Church seemed to be stuck in neutral. no real prayer groups, no bible studies, not really to bulid up the body. I went to one "bible study" and it was a look at God throught modern liteture which was interesting, but I want to be fed the word. So i turned increasingly to Christian radio for my "education". When the pastor left about a year ago, the church has declined even more. finally i decided I had to leave.
I now go to a non-denominational church, its a very modern sort of service (which I am still getting used to). but i feel i'm getting fed the word. There are also alot of opportunities to be part of the church and the community.
 
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Well, Thunderchild, there is some historical evidence to support this view. However, there really is no such thing as "Protestant" because it covers so much theological ground. Martin was the first in the Reformation era to challenge the papal teachings. Zwingli and others followed that lead.

By the time of the Augsburg Confession (1530), there were four groups that presented theological papers: Lutherans, Zwinglian, Anabaptists, and the Radical reformers. Interesting that Calvin (1509 - 1564), a later arrival on the Reformation scene, had the greatest influence among Reformed ("general Protestant" for lack of a more precise term) until the late 1800s. Arminianism, a 17th century derivative of Calvinism, which flourished with Finney's help has now become the dominant "popular" expression of the Reformed/Protestant movement. Basically, the "Protestant" movement would be Zwinglian with regard to the sacraments - "symbols only" - Arminian with regard to salvation/free will, and Calvinist in terms of political orientation.

While in popular terms, Lutherans are lumped within Protestantism, theologically, Lutherans would be distinct from the Reformed/Protestant groups, and distinct from RCC and Orthodox.

The most significant difference has to do with the understanding of Law and Gospel:

Law - tells us what to do and not do; threatens with punishment when we fail.

Gospel- tells us what God has done, is doing,a nd will do for us through Jesus Christ.

Sometimes God speaks Law and sometimes God speaks Gospel.

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I think any time we are content with our status, we come face-to-face with God's Law that shows the demand too much - for anyone. We have three options: go away in despair, become self-righteous, or receive the offer of satisfied righteousness of Jesus Christ. Sadly the rich young man in Mark 10 could not come to grips with the ultimate demand, nor God's solution.

Notice that since the man asked a "Law" question ("What must I do to inherit eternal life?", Jesus gave him a "Law" answer. BTW the "Law" answer was impossible to fulfill. It was designed to show him his sin - the impossibility of living up to God's perfect standards.

Notice in a parallel account in Acts 16:25-33, the Philippian jailer asks the same question ("What must I do to be saved?"), but in this case Paul responds with a Gospel answer: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved" - same demand, different response. Why the difference? It depended on situation of the one who asked the question. The rich young man was expecting to be given a final few tips to go over the top, so to speak. He thought he was already "pretty good." He needed the Law in its fullness, which Jesus spoke. The jailer, on the other hand, was devastated, knowing that death awaited him. His question of "doing" something was out of despair of anything he could do. Thus, Paul's answer brings hope and comfort through Jesus Christ, not through what the jailer could do.

For us, well for me, that is the difficult part: knowing when to speak Law and when to speak Gospel to someone. Even more difficult is trying to determine what “I” need! Maybe that is why Martin Luther said that anyone who could properly distinguish Law and Gospel - and apply it - should be a doctor of theology.

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Ultimately when trying to distinguish between Lutherans and other Christians, the discussion begins and ends with an understanding of that Law/Gospel dichotomy.
 
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My home town of New Ulm, Minnesota has a WELS Lutheran College. Don't ask me about it though since I don't know much even though when I lived there I even attended the WELS Church in town and many students student taught the Lutheran grade school I attended as well. :)
 
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Notice in a parallel account in Acts 16:25-33, the Philippian jailer asks the same question ("What must I do to be saved?"), but in this case Paul responds with a Gospel answer: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved" - same demand, different response.

Very true, but why look to Paul's response for that demonstration? What answer did Jesus give to the soldier who asked the question at the time? Looking at the impossibility of meeting the requirement of the law doesn't provide the answer that is needed.

The rich young man knew he lacked something - which is why he pressed Jesus for a more complete answer. After being told "go, sell all you have and give to the poor," the young man went his way saddened. There is nothing in the record to suggest that he did not do as Jesus had required. Just that the requirement left him saddened (and who would not have that same response, whether or not that same person moved to meet the demand.)
 
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Well, that's the whole point of Mark 10 - the man asked what he had to do. Jesus answered with a law answer - "do this, do this.... (keep the law. Yet when the young man said, "All this I have done..." Jesus again points him to the Law (1st commandment).

The whole issue is whether someone can inherit by what they do. The answer is "no." The young man still wanted to do that - or better, he wanted to be commended for what he had already done.
 
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