Questions about Islam?

[Susan]

 

[JesusInside]

zaco ... u wanna test me 2 c if i am really an arab ...
well i am ... and the word u asked 4 is "ahl el thimmah" ...

so ... r u convinced now ??

 

[ansarthemystic]

once again we have the argument by appaeal to authority!

Jesusinside, you have attempted to set yourself up as an authority so that you will be more believable by stating that you are an arab and you KNOW the real Islam, but are a christian. When one does this we have a he said/she said hearsay situation and one has to choose who to believe, you or zico. I will choose to believe zico b/c christians have a history of twisting quranic verses for their own purpose jus t like muslims have historically twisted bible verses to prpoagate their agenda. Besides choosing to believe zuco over you, I will read my quran foe myself. And any christian here should read it for themselves, in ARABIC, before believing what JesusInside has to say!

So JesusInside, what does the Qur'an say? Please dont bring up Surat-al baqara,ayah 190-191 or surat-al-Nisa , ayah 34 among others.

peace and blessings
assalamu alaikum
shlom aleykom

 

[Zico]

THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED YOU TO SAY JesusInside.

I clearly asked you in arabic ( gool li eh elli mosh mosalim fee el qur'an ? - tell me what is not peaceful in the Qur'an ? )

and you answered : ahl el thimmah

do you know what does this word means ?

just for the record,, this word means ( people who are in our trust ) and it implies to the Christians and Jews ( people of the book ) who live among us and we have to protect them as we protect our selves.

Is there any thing more beautiful than this ?

Your answer to my question was irrelevent.

 

[Zico]

Originally posted by Brian45


 

WHAT ?

Hey zico ,  didn't your mum ever teach you not to speak with your mouth full .                   

 

sorry Brian, i was adressing the guy in arabic.

 

[Zico]

JesusInside,

Again, I AM ZICO !!!!!, not zaco.

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by Zico


 

sorry Brian, i was adressing the guy in arabic.

 

Yes I know you were  ,  I was having a joke with you .            

 

 

[Zico]

Originally posted by Brian45
 

Yes I know you were  ,  I was having a joke with you .            

 

I knew you were,   SWC   

 

[JesusInside]

zico ... sorry for writing your name wrongly ... i thought u said" mish moslim" but you said "mish mosalim" ... so i said "ahl el themmah" .

"fhemt lesh el ana 3'litet ... ???"

whatever ... i just don't want to talk more about this , coz i'm intrested in making new friends and this kind of debate is not the best way to acheave that ...
so i just wanted to put this link 4 these who want to learn more about the subject .
and here is the link again:
http://www.answering-islam.org

 

[Zico]

Originally posted by JesusInside
zico ... sorry for writing your name wrongly ... i thought u said" mish moslim" but you said "mish mosalim" ... so i said "ahl el themmah" .

 

no problem.

 

[zeeshan]

HUH? that's exactly what it says then. If someone who evicts you then you can kill them? Oppress your faith is quite vague. This is the same reason those people used for 9/11. They said america is oppressing them, but then Muslems all over the world said it was wrong. You're stating 2 conflicting things???

Good Morning,
I hope u r well. In Islam, armed struggle is only done when there is no other choice left and in the situations that were mentioned by Zico before. In certain situations, fighting to defend oneself becomes important. For example, if some group of people oppress another group of people to the extent that they kill their children, rape the mens' wives, destroy their houses and force them out of their homes, then it doesn't make sense (atleast not to me) to just turn the other cheek and let the oppressors do whatever they want. The people who were killed in 9/11 weren't oppressing anyones faith. They were hardworking people who were just going about their daily lives. They were innocent people...that is why it was wrong; it is not permissable under any circumstances to harm innocent people in Islam (even in a war). Muslims are being oppressed and there are many struggles taking place in alot of places in the world against the oppressors and in those cases Muslims all over the world are not saying that it is wrong because Islam gives its followers the right to defend themselves against the oppressors. So no, no one is stating two conflicting things.

Zeeshan.

P.S. I wonder how many of you know that about 800 of the people that went missing after 9/11 were Muslims (which included one of my father's friends) and that Muslims had a prayer place in the WTC where 1500 Muslims used to pray every Friday. This was a tragedy for Muslims as it was for followers of every other faith.

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

I wonder what would happen to you if you said that to other Muslims that disagree with you?

 

[Zico]

Originally posted by s0uljah
I wonder what would happen to you if you said that to other Muslims that disagree with you?

Well souljah,

if he says so to real muslims who fear God and obey Muhammad*pbuh* nothing should happen since they remember when Muhammad returned triumphant to his opressors in Makkah and commanded his followers not to kill an old man or a woman or a child or an unarmed man or to cut a tree but only to fight the ones who fight and carry sords. These are the manners of Muhammad and his true followers.

Now i ask you this souljah, what would happen to you if you said to a Christian fundi that you think that Allah is God ?

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by Zico
Well souljah,

if he says so to real muslims who fear God and obey Muhammad*pbuh* nothing should happen since they remember when Muhammad returned triumphant to his opressors in Makkah and commanded his followers not to kill an old man or a woman or a child or an unarmed man or to cut a tree but only to fight the ones who fight and carry sords. These are the manners of Muhammad and his true followers.

Now i ask you this souljah, what would happen to you if you said to a Christian fundi that you think that Allah is God ?

 

Good move zico   ,                    

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Now i ask you this souljah, what would happen to you if you said to a Christian fundi that you think that Allah is God ?

Oh, I would be strung up in about two seconds.

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

if he says so to real muslims who fear God and obey Muhammad*pbuh* nothing should happen since they remember when Muhammad returned triumphant to his opressors in Makkah and commanded his followers not to kill an old man or a woman or a child or an unarmed man or to cut a tree but only to fight the ones who fight and carry sords. These are the manners of Muhammad and his true followers.

How do I know who is a True Muslim since there isn't any central authority of Islam.

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by s0uljah
How do I know who is a True Muslim since there isn't any central authority of Islam.

How do we know who is a true christian since there isn't any central authority of christianity  ?

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Originally posted by Brian45
How do we know who is a true christian since there isn't any central authority of christianity  ?

You know my answer to that Brian, and you won't like it.

 

[Brian45]

Originally posted by s0uljah
You know my answer to that Brian, and you won't like it.

That's why I asked the question , I'm sure muslims and christians would be delighted by your answer .              

 

[ansarthemystic]

yes we would!!!!!!

peace and blessings
assalamu alikum
shalom aleykom