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Sure...I attended for 7 years - but then I converted.
Maybe that's not a good example. You can attend without converting, but you will not be able to participate in communion. If you are ok with that I don't know why you couldn't do it.
Maybe that's not a good example. You can attend without converting, but you will not be able to participate in communion. If you are ok with that I don't know why you couldn't do it.
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Ballerinabeth, Peace be with you.
Absolutely! As was posted, you're only restriction would be that you could not receive the Eucharist. I would suggest that you attend with a Catholic who can explain to you the order of the Mass and, hopefully, some of the reasons behind the elements of the Mass. If not, you will not appreciate the Mass as much. There is a lot more going on during a Mass than meets the eye!
By the way, unless you go to a really small Church, nobody will know who you are and you can observe the Mass without feeling self-conscious. If you go alone, be sure to come back here or somewhere else and ask questions to help you understand what you observed.
God Bless and Stay Safe
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NOTE: the only thing restricting you from the eucharist is a verbal understanding. If they don't know you're not Roman catholic . . .
Respect what you see and what they believe and you will be welcomed with open arms and ready ears and answers
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Respect what you see and what they believe and you will be welcomed with open arms and ready ears and answers
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Sure you can attend a catholic mass without becoming a Catholic. If the Holy Spirit directs u to convert.....then Convert!!! But why would u want to attend a Catholic Mass and not be able to partake in the Eucharist? The Mass is revolved around the Eucharist and not to become a partaker of this would be a true shame. God bless u as u seek.
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Patrick Henry,Originally posted by Br. Max
NOTE: the only thing restricting you from the eucharist is a verbal understanding. If they don't know you're not Roman catholic . . .
Respect what you see and what they believe and you will be welcomed with open arms and ready ears and answers
I am not exactly sure what you mean by this, but you are most incorrect.
You may not receive Holy Communion if you are not a practicing Catholic AND are in a state of grace. Catholics themselves can not receive if they have any mortal sin on their souls.
I would appreciate that you do not give out this kind of advice to non-Catholics. Catholics take this seriously because they believe it to be the real presence of Christ. Receiving in this manner can result in a sacrilege.
To answer the original question, yes you can go to Mass and you can even attend convert classes to learn the faith without a commitment to converting.
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You can receive grace and spiritual union with Christ, this is one of the dozens of reason why one who is not Catholic can attend Mass.
Most importantly, Christ is truly present in the tabernacle and in the Blessed Sacrament, adoration of Christ in this sacrament whether exposed or reserved is for all of us living in the world, not just for Catholics exclusively.
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"If the Holy Spirit directs you to convert?"
From non-believer to a believer in Jesus Christ, or from believer to a particular denomination? I would agree if this person is a non-believer, but I don't think the Holy Spirit is involved in converting you to a one denomination or another when you are already a believer.
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The Catholic Church really isn't considered a denomination. It is the Church that was founded by Christ and his apostles, The Bishops are successors of the apostles.
After the reformation, the different "denomination" was born from this seed.
So to say that the Holy Spirit can lead you to the RCC is correct because it is the true original church of Christ, it is not a denomination. The spirit leads us to truth.
It would be incorrect for the spirit of truth to lead one away from the RCC, not to it.
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What?
The Holy Spirit leads you from un-believer to believer. The original poster is a Christian, the Holy Spirit has done his work as far as the initial conversion is concerned.
Also it is "One Catholic and Apostalic Church"
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The believer was lead by the holy spirit yes, praise God, but if the will is open the spirit will lead it all the way home.
No one is saying that our protestant brethren does not hold truth, but only in the Catholic Church will one find the fullness of truth.
Once the Holy spirit has lead someone into the RCC, it's not likly the Spirit of truth is the spirit leading them out
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Technically, a practicing non-Catholic Christian who embraces Catholicism does not convert to the Catholic Faith, he reconciles with it.
In other words, the non-Catholic Christian bodies are still part of the family, but are separated from it......sort of like the brother who lives in California, while the rest of the family is in Minnesota. When a non-Catholic joins the Catholic Church, he comes home, rather than converts in the sense of a non-Christian converting to a belief in Christ.
Okay, just threw that in. Carry on.
In other words, the non-Catholic Christian bodies are still part of the family, but are separated from it......sort of like the brother who lives in California, while the rest of the family is in Minnesota. When a non-Catholic joins the Catholic Church, he comes home, rather than converts in the sense of a non-Christian converting to a belief in Christ.
Okay, just threw that in. Carry on.
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There is only one Faith, that which is a gift from God.
Doctrine has become the wedge which attempts separate people from their faith.
Doctrine has become the wedge which attempts separate people from their faith.
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Yes I agree, so can you tell me why there are so many different teachings on the one christ?
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Originally posted by Wolseley
Technically, a practicing non-Catholic Christian who embraces Catholicism does not convert to the Catholic Faith, he reconciles with it.
In other words, the non-Catholic Christian bodies are still part of the family, but are separated from it......sort of like the brother who lives in California, while the rest of the family is in Minnesota. When a non-Catholic joins the Catholic Church, he comes home, rather than converts in the sense of a non-Christian converting to a belief in Christ.
Okay, just threw that in. Carry on.
Greatly put, much better than I had explained it.
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Ballerinabeth,
I attend Mass and sometimes attend RCIA but am not converting. I have not decided to convert as of yet. So I just attend to learn. Everyone is fine with that I have met. In fact the parish priest encouraged me to do so and has an open door policy with any questions I may have. I just call the parish office make an appt. (priests are busy people!) and we have a cup of coffee and I ask away and he answers!
It has been a wonderful experience with no pressure whatsoever.
I attend Mass and sometimes attend RCIA but am not converting. I have not decided to convert as of yet. So I just attend to learn. Everyone is fine with that I have met. In fact the parish priest encouraged me to do so and has an open door policy with any questions I may have. I just call the parish office make an appt. (priests are busy people!) and we have a cup of coffee and I ask away and he answers!
It has been a wonderful experience with no pressure whatsoever.
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Because man wants all the "blanks" filled in. So they try to do a better job than the next guy to clarify what Jesus didn't explain. Also unfortunately Religion was used to control people, so less than appropriate "stuff" came in. If it wasn't official doctrine it was unoffical doctrine paraded around as such.
Remember, it was death to anyone who at one time published the Bible. It was never to be that the average person was going to be allowed to read the Bible on their own. How many people died at the hands of other Christians so that you and I can read a Bible.
Also what lead you to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior? The Doctrine or his Love and Promise?
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