Question for Theistic Evolutionists

[Marc15]

There is nothing to indicate Darwin was agnostic but actually that he showed more of an atheistic stance. And he definitely was not theist even though he may have been.

"Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but at last was complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a single second that my conclusion was correct."
Charles Darwin

 

[elopez]

Science is based on observation. And thats what intelligent design is based on.

And still, if intelligent design does not observe that if there is no sun then there can be no days it is not called science. Do you know why evolution is taught in school and intelligent design is not? It's because evolution is and was observed, while intelligent design is based on some pseudo science as such as you have demonstrated.

 

[grasping the after wind]

There is something to indicate Darwin was agnostic but also that he showed an atheistic stance as the arguments he had considered and advocated were atheistic. And he definitely was not theist even though he may have been.

What? He wasn't but he may have been ? How much have you had to drink?

 

[elopez]

"Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but at last was complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a single second that my conclusion was correct."
Charles Darwin

There's actually letters from Darwin from 1879 stating he never dined the existence of a God rather he was more agnostic. He just uses the same arguments an atheist would use but still that could mean an agnostic could make the same argument of the Christian God.

 

[elopez]

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What? He wasn't but he may have been ? How much have you had to drink?

Meaning he lost faith jack ass. I should be asking you the same question.

 

[Marc15]

And still, if intelligent design does not observe that if there is no sun then there can be no days it is not called science. Do you know why evolution is taught in school and intelligent design is not? It's because evolution is and was observed, while intelligent design is based on some pseudo science as such as you have demonstrated.

Macroevolution has not been observed, because in this theory, it takes what? Like a million or so years?

 

[Willtor]

It is intended Historically. There is nothing to indicate it's an allegory.

Yes there is. There is quite a lot to indicate that it's allegorical -- especially for Christians! Surely you don't believe there is something besides the Word of God that can give life? Certainly not a literal mystical tree?

 

[Marc15]

There's actually letters from Darwin from 1879 stating he never dined the existence of a God rather he was more agnostic. He just uses the same arguments an atheist would use but still that could mean an agnostic could make the same argument of the Christian God.

The quote sounds pretty atheistic IMO.

 

[Willtor]

Macroevolution has not been observed, because in this theory, it takes what? Like a million or so years?

It has been observed. Speciation often takes millions of years in longer lived species, but it can happen very quickly in species with short generations.

 

[Marc15]

Yes there is. There is quite a lot to indicate that it's allegorical -- especially for Christians! Surely you don't believe there is something besides the Word of God that can give life? Certainly not a literal mystical tree?

Tell me were in the bible it indicates that it's an allegory.

 

[Marc15]

It has been observed. Speciation often takes millions of years in longer lived species, but it can happen very quickly in species with short generations.

What species?

And my response to your other post.

Tell me were in the bible it indicates that it's an allegory.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Meaning he lost faith jack ass. I should be asking you the same question.

Call me a JACK ASS because I see your addiction is clouding your mind. Your mother must be so proud of you. Still please explain how he can be an atheistic theist I'd really like to know how that goes down. I don't believe I ever called you names but if I ever did I apologize. I did in my earlier years affiliate with the party of the Democrats so I won't take offense.

 

[Willtor]

Tell me were in the bible it indicates that it's an allegory.

In the very passage! As I say, God clearly points out that it is the Tree of Life by which Man can live forever. But Jesus says that he is the Life and it is his flesh and blood that must be consumed for Life. And again in Revelation, the leaves of the Tree of Life are said to heal the nations. Do you believe that it is not the Word, but a literal tree that does this?

 

[Marc15]

In the very passage! As I say, God clearly points out that it is the Tree of Life by which Man can live forever. But Jesus says that he is the Life and it is his flesh and blood that must be consumed for Life. And again in Revelation, the leaves of the Tree of Life are said to heal the nations. Do you believe that it is not the Word, but a literal tree that does this?

The tree of life is the garden of eden right? Well it probably got destroyed by the flood.

 

[Willtor]

What species?

And my response to your other post.

Tell me were in the bible it indicates that it's an allegory.

Nylon-Eating Bacteria eats a substance that was invented in 1935.

New Breed of Mosquitoes in the London underground.

Fruit flies are a popular source of data on speciation because their generations are so short. For less than $100 you can do an experiment yourself and prove that macro-evolution occurs.

 

[elopez]

Macroevolution has not been observed, because in this theory, it takes what? Like a million or so years?

We would not expect to see large changes directly, as evolution deals with small changes over large periods of time. So if we observed something like a fish growing into a frog in just a couple generations or even less, that would be evidence against evolution. Also, macroevolution is just the term biologists use to describe evolution at or above the species level, and speciation has been observed.

 

[elopez]

Call me a JACK ASS because I see your addiction is clouding your mind. Your mother must be so proud of you. Still please explain how he can be an atheistic theist I'd really like to know how that goes down. I don't believe I ever called you names but if I ever did I apologize. I did in my earlier years affiliate with the party of the Democrats so I won't take offense.

Now you are sounding even more like a jack ass. Keep it up.

 

[Marc15]

A new type of mosquito would be microevolution, not macroevolution.

 

[Willtor]

The tree of life is the garden of eden right? Well it probably got destroyed by the flood.

Read your Bible! It lives in the New Jerusalem, as described in the book of Revelation.

Indeed, if it _were_ a literal tree, it would have gotten destroyed by the flood, wouldn't it?

 

[Willtor]

A new type of mosquito would be microevolution, not macroevolution.

Then all evolution is microevolution. And if you agree that microevolution occurs, I don't see what the disagreement is.