Question for Parents Who Push Abstinence

[Skydancing]

If anyone has a problem with their fiance masturbating they definitely should not get married!

 

[Troof]

You are all mad! Masturbation is an evolved behavior. Its not wrong, its just something apes do.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

You are all mad! Masturbation is an evolved behavior. Its not wrong, its just something apes do.

Apes do it, so... then it's morally acceptable to play with your own excrement too?
What passes for reasoning today?

 

[Trillian]

Apes do it, so... then it's morally acceptable to play with your own excrement too?
What passes for reasoning today?

I always figured that playing with your excrement to be a social taboo... are there moral implications?? Huh.

 

[savvy]

I always figured that playing with your excrement to be a social taboo... are there moral implications?? Huh.

Yes. Poo is concentrated evil coming out the back of you.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

I always figured that playing with your excrement to be a social taboo... are there moral implications?? Huh.

I believe it would be more ritualistic and may would be cause to seek professional help if this is a desired act, but morally would most likely depend if you wash your hands, dispose of it properly, etc. or not.

Deuteronomy 23:12-13
12 Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself. 13 As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement.

I see my use of comparison reasoning was lost in the interpretation.

 

[chipmunk]

I always figured that playing with your excrement to be a social taboo... are there moral implications?? Huh.

Just health concerns. And I wonder if humanurists could be considered to be playing with their excerement.....

 

[Electric Sceptic]

Apes do it, so... then it's morally acceptable to play with your own excrement too?

Please point out where ANYONE said that since apes do it, it's okay for humans to do it.

What passes for reasoning today?

People making unwarranted leaps like yours.

 

[katautumn]

Is it true some of the medical afflictions associated with masturbation are blurry vision and hairy palms?

 

[numberprophet]

hi dere

 

[Marie D]

If the fact that your fiance masturbates was responsible for your delaying your marriage by a year, you're not ready for marriage. Hell, you're not ready for life.

He doesn't do it any more. He has only ever done it three times, his mother walked in on him the third time and his father beat him horrifically for it. Stupidly, I was shocked by his sin and called off our engagement but when I realised how much I'd hurt him and how desperately sorry he was for what he did we made up. Unfortunately our priest said he wouldn't marry us until my fiance was without that sin for a year and now my father is making it worse by saying unless we agree to some pretty terrible conditions to our married life he won't give his blessing to let us wed, which means we're having to wait until my 18th birthday when I don't need it.
I think we're both ready for marriage but unfortunately other people don't see it that way.

 

[numberprophet]

my father is making it worse by saying unless we agree to some pretty terrible conditions to our married life he won't give his blessing to let us wed

i'm afraid to ask but, what might those conditions be?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

i'm afraid to ask but, what might those conditions be?

He has to wear boxing gloves for the rest of his life.

 

[numberprophet]

He has to wear boxing gloves for the rest of his life.

Hey i'm really curious here, though i doubt Marie will respond to me.

 

[ottaia]

Is it true some of the medical afflictions associated with masturbation are blurry vision and hairy palms?

I would answer you but I have to shave my palms!!

 

[ottaia]

Unfortunately our priest said he wouldn't marry us until my fiance was without that sin for a year and now my father is making it worse by saying unless we agree to some pretty terrible conditions to our married life he won't give his blessing to let us wed, which means we're having to wait until my 18th birthday when I don't need it.
I think we're both ready for marriage but unfortunately other people don't see it that way.

Without sin for a year?! Just the "masturbation sin" or maybe the "lying about masturbation sin"?

 

[chipmunk]

i'm afraid to ask but, what might those conditions be?

http://www.christianforums.com/t2368558

Perhaps, this thread of hers will help. Specifically, post #6, and paragraphs 13-16.

 

[wblastyn]

He doesn't do it any more. He has only ever done it three times, his mother walked in on him the third time and his father beat him horrifically for it. Stupidly, I was shocked by his sin and called off our engagement but when I realised how much I'd hurt him and how desperately sorry he was for what he did we made up. Unfortunately our priest said he wouldn't marry us until my fiance was without that sin for a year and now my father is making it worse by saying unless we agree to some pretty terrible conditions to our married life he won't give his blessing to let us wed, which means we're having to wait until my 18th birthday when I don't need it.
I think we're both ready for marriage but unfortunately other people don't see it that way.

I cannot believe stuff like this still goes on in the 21st century.....oh wait...yes I can.

Did anyone point out that beating someone would also be considered a sin.

Oh my Lord, Marie I just read your thread. Your situation sounds awful! You're fiance sounds like a wonderful person though! I hope everything works out for you both.

 

[numberprophet]

http://www.christianforums.com/t2368558

Perhaps, this thread of hers will help. Specifically, post #6, and paragraphs 13-16.

there is no god.

 

[Marie D]

Hey i'm really curious here, though i doubt Marie will respond to me.

Chipmunk has linked to the original thread. I'm safe now though, I live with my fiance's grandparents who are kind, gentle people .