Question for former Calvinists

[tulipbee]

This thread is for "former Clavinists", not currently practicing ones.

Oh, You're right! This thread did ask "former Calvinist" what ever that means. Although, I do sound like a Calvinist or a Lutheran or a primitive Baptist, I meant to say that the Bible is my guidelines to everything I say. I rather say, I'm only a basic Christian and am very sad of so many divisions. I'm a Christian and really don't belong in broken up divisions or denominations. Truth set me free and I'm a freelance Christian but to let you know, I'm also a member of the orthodox church as well as the reformed churches, charismatic, catholic and many more. Going through all those churches was interesting and full of bugs, but now I'm just a freelance Christian relying on the Word, only. I'm a former Calvinist as well as a Calvinist. Calvinism is just a term to explain the Bible. Why some many denominations to confuse us even more. Hopefully , I'm welcomed in this thread, If not, just say so. We'll see what follows

sorry for my english. I'm trying.

Presby

 

[BabyLutheran]

Forgive me for making fun of you. It was not very nice of me, and I apologize for it.

I am like you, I do not enjoy all of the divisions of Christianity, and that's what has drawn me to Orthodoxy. It has been pretty much the same since the beginning.

 

[tulipbee]

Forgive me for making fun of you. It was not very nice of me, and I apologize for it.

I am like you, I do not enjoy all of the divisions of Christianity, and that's what has drawn me to Orthodoxy. It has been pretty much the same since the beginning.

Thats all right. I love you either way. I liked Orthodox cause they don't sing. I don't want to be challenged to sing and makes me look like I don't care to worship if I don't sing. It's freaky to stand in line and kiss the pastor/minster/leader or claimed "God on earth" on his hands. Good lord, I hate to even bow to my so called master of tai chi or "father" in Chinese ways. I simple handshake would do but I do agree with Howie on "deal or no deal". He hates to touch hands. I went to a Catholic funeral once and after my "might be gay but more likely" art director turns out to be the guy to pass the communion cup around and he finished the last of all the wine left. I've been in debate about sharing the same cup but you guys say it's perfectly germ-less and has no problem with getting sick. So we still don't know the cause of some sickness. Kissing Mary's feet is another thing. I appreciate what Mary did but, "no thanks!" to kissing the feet's of stone. I understand respect but whatever turns you on is the way it is.

Prebyter

 

[Orthosdoxa]

You know tulip, it might go better if you ask us why we do some of the things we do, rather than just charge in here, preaching at us and telling us our beliefs are wrong. Questions are always appreciated.

 

[tulipbee]

You know tulip, it might go better if you ask us why we do some of the things we do, rather than just charge in here, preaching at us and telling us our beliefs are wrong. Questions are always appreciated.

I know why and didn't mean to say something is wrong, just a better way or always "reforming" to correct if possible. Catholics add new traditions all the time and so can I , right?

Preby

 

[icxn]

I guess it was my words when I quote reformed theologies. In the reformed days, going back to the Bible, and away from centries old organized churches who added more than 1000 new traditions and ongoing, I could say that those that reject were never saved in the first place. Just positive thinking. If you reject when God predestined you to hell because He thought of it ahead of time, then it was the unbeliever that rejects. The goats rejects. The elected can't reject. the believers can't reject. If you believe, how do you unbelieve ? When you have the gift of faith, how in the world do you toss out the gift if you want to reject. If God promises you Salvation, how could you tell Him, "No thanks, you made a mistake and chose the wrong person." Whats more positive when God already claims you as His child of God. You can play games with positive thoughts on your own and say I'm saved because I told God to save me, or one would tell God, " I'm not ready or don't bother me since I'm not ready for Salvation. " Those that think they are 98% spiritually dead think they can tell God what to do and make up their own minds about the spiritual things of God. The Bible states natural man ~DOESN'T~ know the spiritual things of God. God promises you Salvation and then change His mind, I don't think so. There are cases in the Bible that God does that (change His mind), literally read. But like the earlier post above, one said God hated the other unborn twin and was stated that it was symbolic or was meant something else. Literally, He hated the other twin. With that, you and I believe in different things. Personally, Calvinism makes more sense to me but do agree we all have bugs in our theologies. Lets face it, The Bible said, God chooses you, not You chose God. The word, 'If' back then is different than we use it today.

Prebyterian

I'm afraid we can't communicate. You are a sheep and have your own language. I, on the other hand I'm a goat and speak a different language.

Quote:

Some visitors came to the Thebaid one day to visit an old man, bringing one possessed with a devil that he might heal him. When they persistently asked him, the old man said to the devil, "Come out of God's creature." And the devil said to the old man, "I am going to come out, but I am going to ask you a question. Tell me, who are the goats and who are the sheep?" The old man said, "I am one of the goats, but as for the sheep, God alone knows who they are." When he heard this, the devil began to cry out with a loud voice, "Because of your humility, I am driven away!" and he departed at the same hour. - The Desert Fathers
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[Orthosdoxa]

Our beliefs ARE correct, Tulip. We don't need your heretical corrections, and as for what the Catholics do, that's irrelevant to us. It's obvious you're only here to make trouble. Very "Christian" of you.

 

[RobNJ]

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