Question for Atheists!

[Non sequitur]

I praise God for your boldness to confront these with their religion of "Nothing created everthing." bunk. That is why they hang out on A christian site. they think of this "nothing" 24/7, but unfortunately they are willfully choosing hell, because they know or hey would not even be on here.

Christians sure do a whole lot of, "No, what you really think is...", I've noticed.

 

[Jazer]

Christians sure do a whole lot of, "No, what you really think is...", I've noticed.

That is the nature of all people. They project themselves out on others. They think they are passing judgement on others, when actually they only judge themselves. I get embarrassed for them sometimes, because they reveil things about themselves we would otherwise never know.

 

[Skavau]

I praise God for your boldness to confront these with their religion of "Nothing created everthing." bunk. That is why they hang out on A christian site. they think of this "nothing" 24/7, but unfortunately they are willfully choosing hell, because they know or hey would not even be on here.

Crypto-fascism is never so appealing when it is drenched in such sanctimony.

How would you know what all atheists think all of the time? How would you pretend to know what all atheists are 'choosing' in regards to heaven and hell?

 

[Eudaimonist]

I praise God for your boldness to confront these with their religion of "Nothing created everthing." bunk.

Who here has argued this? It's certainly not my view.

That is why they hang out on A christian site. they think of this "nothing" 24/7, but unfortunately they are willfully choosing hell, because they know or hey would not even be on here.

I'm on here because I want to challenge the stigmas and mindreading that Christians impose on atheists, and your post is a great example.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[chaotic_rayne]

I love how you tell me that you are right and I am "hell bound"...... and no, I don't accept that I am a "sinner"... I am a person with faults with no one to "answer" to. I could get into alot more than that, but for now, I am quiet...

 

[purpledolphin8402]

So what is the fascination with:"Christian" forum then? Perhaps you are not able to read. Monkeys can't read and neither can an amoeba for that matter.

Christian means "Christ-like." I don't remember ever reading in the bible that Jesus was rude and insulting. IF Jesus does exist, it's true that he would probably be mad at me for not believing in him, but I'm pretty sure he would be even more mad at people claiming to be like him and representing him in such a poor way. I have a feeling that Gandhi came across a few "Christians" like you when he said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

 

[Eudaimonist]

Christian means "Christ-like."

It can mean that, but there are other meanings.

Chris·tian(kr

s

ch

n)
adj. 1. Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus's teachings.
3. Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.
4. Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents.
5. Showing a loving concern for others; humane.

n. 1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.



eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Simply_Amazing]

That is the nature of all people. They project themselves out on others. They think they are passing judgement on others, when actually they only judge themselves. I get embarrassed for them sometimes, because they reveil things about themselves we would otherwise never know.

[/blanket generalization of others that is ironically revealing quite a bit about you]

 

[Jazer]

How would you know what all atheists think all of the time? How would you pretend to know what all atheists are 'choosing' in regards to heaven and hell?

The Bible tells us, God reveils it to us. Otherwise we would not know.

1The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
2The Lord looks down from heaven
on the sons of men
to see if there are any who understand,
any who seek God.
3All have turned aside,
they have together become corrupt;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

The Bible tells us, God reveils it to us. Otherwise we would not know.

1The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
2The Lord looks down from heaven
on the sons of men
to see if there are any who understand,
any who seek God.
3All have turned aside,
they have together become corrupt;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.

And since very few atheists say "There is no God", your point is rather moot.

 

[Jazer]

[/blanket generalization of others that is ironically revealing quite a bit about you]

It is a blanket generalization to say that we can not and should not judge people?
Your condemning me because I say we should not judge others?

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

 

[Eudaimonist]

It is a blanket generalization to say that we can not and should not judge people?

No. You are confusing two issues for each other.

A blanket generalization is a judgment made about a group of people. That's bad.

A generalization about how one should rightly judge others is not a blanket generalization made about a group of people. It is a principle of action. This is not bad.

Your condemning me because I say we should not judge others?

No, he was objecting to the way you have generalized about others.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Jazer]

And since very few atheists say "There is no God", your point is rather moot.

Really? Atheists believe in God?

"1.6% explicitly describe themselves as atheist (0.7%) or agnostic (0.9%),
nearly double the previous 2001 ARIS survey figure of 0.9%" wiki

 

[Jazer]

A blanket generalization is a judgment made about a group of people. That's bad.

First of all we are talking about a scripture in the Bible. Second of all this applys to everyone, not just a "group of people". A group of people would be less than the sum total of all people.

The Bible is clear, when you judge others you condemn yourself. You "do the same things" that you are judge others for. So you have no excuse.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Really? Atheists believe in God?

"1.6% explicitly describe themselves as atheist (0.7%) or agnostic (0.9%),
nearly double the previous 2001 ARIS survey figure of 0.9%" wiki

Theists say "There is a God", atheists do not. Some atheists go one step further, and say "There is no God" - these are called strong atheists, and make up an extremely small fraction of self-professed atheists. The vast majority of atheists, then, are those who neither affirm the existence of deities, nor the non-existence of deities.

Some people, mainly theists and those who are uncomfortable with the connotations attributed to the word 'atheist', define such a stance as 'agnosticism', but gnosticism/agnosticism properly refers to something else (namely, the stance as to whether we can, at least in principle, deduce the existence of non-existence of deities).

Thus, I am a weak gnostic atheist: I don't believe God exists, nor do I believe God doesn't exist, and I believe that, if God does exist, it's not impossible to deduce that fact.

Therefore, I stand by my statement: most atheists do not say "There is no God". Most maintain a stance of non-committal, seeing no logical or empirical reason to affirm either the existence or non-existence of deities.

 

[Cabal]

Yes, we come here because we are all secretly part of your belief system and wish to save ourselves from your fictional punishment. (ego centrism much?)

Presumably all the religious posters on richarddawkins.net are just gagging to become atheists because atheism is so obviously true.

 

[quatona]

Do you accept the christian notion that you are a sinner?

No.

If so, do you wish to be released from the slavery of sin?

I believe that you will be confronted with your creator before you die and i pray to God that you will chose a life with Him instead of a life in sin! One day you will have the revelation that you are a sinner, and actually know that God is true... That day, chose Jesus! you are allowed to chose Jesus!! You are allowed to believe in the gospel!! Remember that!

If by all means you want to preach - can´t you at least try to be a bit more original? I must have heard this sermon hundreds of times before.

 

[Skavau]

The Bible tells us, God reveils it to us. Otherwise we would not know.

1The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
2The Lord looks down from heaven
on the sons of men
to see if there are any who understand,
any who seek God.
3All have turned aside,
they have together become corrupt;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.

This effectively makes you a solipsist. If I say that my deeds aren't vile and if you are presented with atheists that have done good deeds you will literally cover your ears and insist that a specific book is more accurate than reality.

This is to say that you directly believe that every atheist that refuses to accept your claim of them being corrupt, vile as an unashamed liar. If I say I have made no choice of either heaven and hell you will de facto call me a liar. You disregard reality in favour of a book.

Literally.

 

[Skavau]

Really? Atheists believe in God?

"1.6% explicitly describe themselves as atheist (0.7%) or agnostic (0.9%),
nearly double the previous 2001 ARIS survey figure of 0.9%" wiki

No.

There is a difference between stating that there is no God and simply not believing in a God. Most atheists do not outright state that there can be no God, they just aren't convinced of the positive claim that God exists.

One is a positive assertion, the other is a negative reaction.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is a difference between stating that there is no God and simply not believing in a God.

Wouldn't that difference be a set of vocal chords?