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What are you talking about? That seems to be exactly what happened in 70 AD. Is it just a coincidence that the city was surrounded around 70 AD and then destroyed? How could that have nothing to do with what Jesus was talking about when He was clearly mourning over the city itself and its people because He knew what was going to happen to them?Luke 19:41-46
Many Christians refuse to hear the part where Christ unambiguously says the city shall be laid even with the ground and her children within her. It's very willfully convenient to leave that part out.
- "And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
- Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
- For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
- And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
- And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;
- Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves."
It was both. It's ludicrous to act as if the Romans were not their enemies. Yes, they most certainly were. But, so were the Pharisees and scribes and other leaders who rejected Christ and had Him put to death.Now, who did Christ said TRULY were the enemies of Jerusalem and how were they compassed round about her? Who truly brought the city to desolation? Was it the Romans, or was it those who would smite the Shepherd?
Wrong! To say that the Romans were not enemies of Jerusalem is ludicrous! Yes, they were! Goodness sakes. But, they also had enemies in their own ranks (the aforementioned Pharisees and scribes, for example).Only by comparing scripture with scripture will we ever know the "TRUE" answer to that. No, it's not the Romans!
Where are you getting your information? The city was rebuilt later, so you can't base your understanding of what happened back then on what the city is like now.Christ said that the city Jerusalem ITSELF and ALL ITS CHILDREN WITHIN would be laid even with the ground so that Not one stone would be left standing one upon another. Again, Christ's specific qualification for fulfillment, not mine. Of course, the physical city remained with many stones left standing one upon another, which means that the physical city in AD 70 was NOT what Christ was speaking about in the prophecy.
Both are true! Everything is always one or the other with you.Only their spiritual city, the Old Testament congregation qualifies for having been completely laid even with the ground and brought to desolation. The kingdom representative was taken from her and gave to another which is the New Testament Congregation in three days! Spiritually!
Of course! He knew that they were going to be killed by the Roman armies and that saddened Him. But, it has to be done because it was already determined that God's wrath against them (the unbelieving Jews) was going to be carried out. And it was.We have to understand, Christ didn't weep for literal stones or for a physical city Jerusalem, he wept for the congregation Jerusalem, the people who were the stones and the city proper!
Yes, but so were the temple buildings and the city itself. The destruction had to be complete because God's wrath was meant to be carried out against all there who rejected Christ.It is "THEY" who would be brought to desolation or total ruin by their abominations, and it is they who were laid even with the ground.
Reading ahead, it looks like you basically just continue repeating yourself and saying things that I already know (as if you are spiritual and I'm not - get over yourself!), so I'm not going to respond to everything you said from here on. Looks like I will have to divide this post into two posts because of the character limit.
It helps me to see that you haven't changed much from before and still think you are holier than thou and more spiritual than everyone else. There is no balance in your approach to scripture. Not everything has to have a spiritual only fulfillment.Hope this helps.
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