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[Sebjames]

I don’t quite know how to start this off with out making it confusing. So ill just start where I think I should.


Why are Chrstians so close-minded and hate filled. I want so bad to be a Christian again but the people are so hatful and close-minded about everything, why would anyone want to be in a religion that spreads so much hate toward other people. When Christians are supposed to love everyone?

how are we Christ like if we plant bombs, kill, chanting hateful remarks and tell people there going to hell for loving someone...and doing this all under Jesus's name, Do you think if he was here today that he would be standing there with you in the frunt of the picket line screaming "I HATE ****!, BURN IN HELL!" ....No and do you know why?

Jesus loved everyone and we are support to be in his image.. Right? So then why are people so quick to judge someone for who they are?
And you can say that not all Christians are like that, that’s true but a high amount of them are. But those are the Christians that make this religion an embarrassment to be apart of.

please give me feed back Pro and aginst what has been said

 

[apenman]

Well, us liberals aren't so closed minded, and were constantly fighting battles in this forum against those who are. So, why don't you just join us and welcome aboard!!

 

[UberLutheran]

You might very well enjoy this set of forums (General Apologetics, Philosophy and Morality, Liberal Theology) and a special forum for liberal Christians (Whosever Will, May Come).

Whosever Will, May Come is especially nice because it is a forum specifically for liberal Christians. DO feel welcome to join us!

 

[DaveS]

I think you have been talking to the wrong people. I would personally recomend going around all the 'fun' forums on this site to see the good things about christians. Christianity is all about love although obviously, if you are atheist (or some belive other religions) then it could appear that it is not about love... although it is really!

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

[pong]Welcome to CF Sebjames![/pong]

 

[DaveS]

Oh yeah.. didn't notice this was your first post!

Can't do anything as good as kat but I 'll just say,

Welcome to the CF!

 

[Sebjames]

Well thank you all for being so welcome,
and for DaveS i wouldnt say im atheist, I just have alot of questions that people dont know how to answer. and i believe in more stuff then what the bible says.
i knew i posted this in the liberal area, i did it so i could at least get responces from people who maybe saw things more my way then the hard core right wingers.

 

[jameseb]

Very interesting choice of name.

 

[DaveS]

Very interesting choice of name.

lol

Well thank you all for being so welcome,
and for DaveS i wouldnt say im atheist, I just have alot of questions that people dont know how to answer. and i believe in more stuff then what the bible says.
i knew i posted this in the liberal area, i did it so i could at least get responces from people who maybe saw things more my way then the hard core right wingers.

ARGH! I have done that twice today! When I said that I wasn't actually implyin that you were atheist, I was just saying a general statement. Sorry if it came about like that.

 

[Sebjames]

Very interesting choice of name.

haha nice, thats pretty funny

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

Well thank you all for being so welcome,
and for DaveS i wouldnt say im atheist, I just have alot of questions that people dont know how to answer. and i believe in more stuff then what the bible says.
i knew i posted this in the liberal area, i did it so i could at least get responces from people who maybe saw things more my way then the hard core right wingers.

Oh yea, you're gonna fit right in! The waters are fine, jump on in anytime.

 

[Grantwisdom]

Unfortunately a lot of what Sebjames says is true; many have been persecuted and killed under the hands of Christian followers. But don't lose sight that it was not and is not true Christianity that propels individuals to dispicable acts, but it is human sin and the detachment from God it causes. God has provided us one perfect example which to follow in that of Jesus Christ. It is not Jesus' shortcomings that have made and continue to make men commit such horrible acts and deeds, it is our own.

 

[Lisa0315]

Unfortunately a lot of what Sebjames says is true; many have been persecuted and killed under the hands of Christian followers. But don't lose sight that it was not and is not true Christianity that propels individuals to dispicable acts, but it is human sin and the detachment from God it causes. God has provided us one perfect example which to follow in that of Jesus Christ. It is not Jesus' shortcomings that have made and continue to make men commit such horrible acts and deeds, it is our own.

Wow! Thank you. That was a great way to put that.

 

[LovesOfMyLife]

Aww, welcome to CF! Not all Christians are hate filled, why on this board alone I've "met" some really loving, open minded, and AWESOME Christians who are anything but hate filled. These people make me proud to call myself Christian and be their friend.

 

[muffler dragon]

Whosever Will, May Come is especially nice because it is a forum specifically for liberal Christians. DO feel welcome to join us!

It's just a shame when one of the founding members of that forum left because of his angst towards the whole mess.

 

[Sebjames]

what i dont understand is why do the christians that do this think they get some special treatment from god that makes it ok what there doing, they should be out casted just like anyone alse who isnt a christian would be for doing the same thing ( i hope that made sence)

 

[Charlie V]

Sebjames,

Here's the deal:

Christians aren't hateful. Neither are Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists or any other religious-label group of people.

People are hateful. Some of those people are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists or any other religious-label group of people.

People are also loving and kind. Some of those people are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists or any other religious-label group of people.

Some from all of those groups are healers and teachers who spread kindness and love. Some from all of those groups are terrorists who spread violence and hate. It's not about the group or the label. It's about the relative level of love or hate within the individual.

But those who are hateful, as Christ pointed out on the cross, know not what they do. They have lived a life of spiritual poverty, and should have our sympathies more than our contempt. (Although obviously in the case of terrorists they need to be seperated from society for the greater good of protecting society.)

My advice:

Find the people who are loving and kind, and make attachments with those people. Emulate their kindness, and the kindness of Jesus Himself. Be a good Samaritan. Walk the walk.

Find the people who are hateful, and forgive them, and try to teach them to be less so. Reach out with an open heart.

Charlie

 

[elman]

Sebjames,

Here's the deal:

Christians aren't hateful. Neither are Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists or any other religious-label group of people.

People are hateful. Some of those people are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists or any other religious-label group of people.

People are also loving and kind. Some of those people are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists or any other religious-label group of people.

Some from all of those groups are healers and teachers who spread kindness and love. Some from all of those groups are terrorists who spread violence and hate. It's not about the group or the label. It's about the relative level of love or hate within the individual.

But those who are hateful, as Christ pointed out on the cross, know not what they do. They have lived a life of spiritual poverty, and should have our sympathies more than our contempt. (Although obviously in the case of terrorists they need to be seperated from society for the greater good of protecting society.)

My advice:

Find the people who are loving and kind, and make attachments with those people. Emulate their kindness, and the kindness of Jesus Himself. Be a good Samaritan. Walk the walk.

Find the people who are hateful, and forgive them, and try to teach them to be less so. Reach out with an open heart.

Charlie

Well said!!!

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

But those who are hateful, as Christ pointed out on the cross, know not what they do. They have lived a life of spiritual poverty, and should have our sympathies more than our contempt. (Although obviously in the case of terrorists they need to be seperated from society for the greater good of protecting society.

I don't know how this would be accomplished when the "terrorists" are a World Power and claim to be freedom fighters. But I guess that's another thread altogether.

 

[John812]

I want so bad to be a Christian again but the people are so hatful and close-minded about everything

You want to become a Christian again? I hope you don't switch back and forth between religions depending on what your mood is. I pray that when you do come to a knowledge of the truth that you will become an awesome follower of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

Don't look to Christians as an example of what it means to be like Jesus. Look to Jesus instead


God bless ya!