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Question about the after-life...

eternalifer

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LyricalX said:
But how am I suppose to read the Qur'an and the Bible and decide which one is the truth?

I have a Muslim saying "faith will show you which one"

I have a Christian saying "faith will show you which one"


Surely God can see i'm trying so hard, but as a mere human, I can't figure this all out.
One of the two books (Bible and Q uran)is full of prophecies which all have come true right down to the tiniest details (except of course the prophecies for the end of the age which are unfolding even now). You must decide which book is the inspired word of God. The Bible teaches that Yahweh God is eternal (He has always existed). This is the same with Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Mohammed didn't come around until about 1400 years ago. He couldn't read or write. He was taken in by Rabbis and taught the stories of the old testament. He eventually left to start his own religion (Islam) and he took those teachings with him. That is why the two books are so similar. He chose Allah (the moon god) to be god. He was one of 360 gods at the time, one for every day of their calender. How can Allah be eternal creator when he came into existence only 1400 years ago?
 
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eoe,

God does not senence anyone to hell. This is the "angry god theology" of the west.

The "angry God theology of the West"? I don't think I've ever heard of this before. My pastor always talks about how God's face is shining down upon us, and that He is not one of those God's in that if you do a lot of good works that you just might get a netural face from God, and that if you slip up you'll get a lightning bolt thrown at you. He isn't a God whom is always frowning over you. The Bible paints a very different view of God: He is one whom smiles over us. No, God is gracious and He takes delight in the people whom He created, even if they choose to reject Him. Some people say that the roof'll fall in if they entered a church, but the truth could not be more opposite, the church is the place where God wants them to be.

To the OP, hypothetically, are you sorry for rejecting God or are you sorry for yourself because of the consequences of rejecting God? You see, many people who commit crimes, e.g. adultery, are only sorry if they get caught and have to experience the consequences of their actions. And you're only saying that you're sorry out of fear for eternal punishment. The love that saves, perfect love, drives away all fear as John says, there is no fear in love.

Consider, before God's eyes, you are a sinner. Countless times you have disobeyed His commandments and rebelled against Him. That is your "crime". Now, Paul informs us that [both physical and eternal] death (i.e. separation from God) is the wages of sin. In other words, you because of your sins and transgressions actually deserve or earn death!

Now, we have to options of what to do with our sins.

We can do one of two things:
1. Separate from our sins by trusting in Christ and in effect handing our sins over to Him and thus dwell with God forever.

2. Reject Christ and in effect cling or hold onto our sins, in which case we will separate ourselves from God for all eternity.

Since in your hypothetical situation you didn't believe in Jesus, we'll see what's happening behind the scenes in scenario number 2. Back in the Garden of Eden when Adam rebelled against God, in effect he was saying that he wanted life without God. He wanted to decide truth for himself, independent of God. So, we can conclude, that when we similarly sin against and reject Christ and His offer to take our sins away, we are in effect saying to Him:

"Go away Jesus. Don't come in here with that sering spotlight of yours telling me how to live my life, just leave me alone!"

Thus we are wanting to live without God, independent of Him. On Judgment Day, Jesus will grant us our wish and depart us from Himself for all eternity.

So, back to your hypothetical situation, you have already said to God that you want nothing to do with Him. Even though outwardly you may claim that you want to have a relationship with Him, He can see your heart and its intent to avoid eternal suffering.

As to how you can decide which religion to follow. Well, Islam claims that it is the final revelation from Allah and that it preceeds the former Tankh (Old Testament) and the New Testament Gospel. However, one of the things that I find most weird is if Jesus was not crucified as Muhammad claims He was not, then wouldn't the people of the Gospel day just say that no such thing ever happened as the Apostles outlined. I mean, from the Gospels we can conclude that the death of Jesus was a massive event that everyone knew about (Luke 24:13-35) and as such, if it never happened no one would take the message seriously.

Anyway, the Bible says "taste and see that the Lord is good" (Psalm 34:80) and 1 Peter 2:3. Jesus also said that if you seek after Him with all your heart you will find Him. These two verses are like a challenge - the Bible challenges people to try Jesus out and put Him to the test in your life. Of course, you also have a part to play in this. For your part, you must seek after Him and be open to the promptings of the Holy Spirit.

I have to go,
Katarn.
 
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No,That is why God gives us the chance while on Earth and God in a way don't sentence us in a way we senect ourself. By the path we hoose to take he says if you suffer with me now you will rein with me in the end, the first shall be last and the last shall be first.He that endureth to the end:)
 
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Ok, so in this post im going to pretend I think Christianity is fact.

Say I died and hadn't accepted Christ into my heart. I always wondered if he was the truth but never ended up believing it.

God sentences me to hell. What if there and then I begged like no-ones begged before for God not to send me. Do you think God might make decisions outside of what it says in the Bible?
Hi,
The rich, damned man in Luke chapter 16 begged Abraham over the fate of then living mortals on Earth but not as to his own residence there which fate he seemed to view as being unalterable. He didn't even hint at any reprieve for himself in hell but only cried for a mere drop of water to cool his tongue while in "this flame". If it were possible to beg one's way out of hell and I was in the damned rich man's positition, I sure would have started begging for release then and there and he didn't. That spells the awful, final word, "Hopeless". Hope of escape from hell's torments is a very real hope, but also very a termed hope to be found in this life alone.
 
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Ok, so in this post im going to pretend I think Christianity is fact.

Say I died and hadn't accepted Christ into my heart. I always wondered if he was the truth but never ended up believing it.

God sentences me to hell. What if there and then I begged like no-ones begged before for God not to send me. Do you think God might make decisions outside of what it says in the Bible?

'Hell' Scarry isn't it!

I do not think this place or concept should be considered when one is contemplating as to whether or not they are going to follow Christ. Way too many 'make the decision' in order to avoid hell rather than because they have arrived at the point in their life to trust Christ for salvation from their sins.
 
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'Hell' Scarry isn't it!

I do not think this place or concept should be considered when one is contemplating as to whether or not they are going to follow Christ. Way too many 'make the decision' in order to avoid hell rather than because they have arrived at the point in their life to trust Christ for salvation from their sins.

Would you like to try a little role playing exercise?

Let's say that I'm unsaved and it's up to you to share the Gospel with me.

Try to share the Gospel with me without telling me about Hell.
 
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