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[Dontknow]

Hi

I have a question i don't know where i must ask it..

Does anyone know what the difference is between unitarians and Universalists?

 

[John Jay]

Hi

I have a question i don't know where i must ask it..

Does anyone know what the difference is between unitarians and Universalists?

This forum is for questions about Christianity, so I don't think you're going to get a lot of answers about Unitarians here.

Universalism, within Christianity, refers to the heretical belief that all people will be saved and that all means of salvation are valid.

Universalism is a part of Unitarianism, but how similar they are, I wouldn't know.

 

[wpage]

There is no difference.

 

[Mr Dave]

Neither are 'orthodox' Christianity (in the sense of being part of traditional accepted belief, not specifically the Eastern Orthodox Church).

Universalism is the belief that there is no Hell and that all (the universe in its entirety) will be saved. (Not to be confused with 'Arminianism' or other such groups which believes that all may be saved, but not that all necessarily will be saved).

Unitarianism is the belief which is a rejection of the Holy Trinity, the belief held to be Trinitarians. Unitarianism does not view the Father Son and Holy Spirit as one God in three persons. To be a Christian, you must accept that Jesus is God and that He is the Son of God. Unitarians reject this.

 

[Dontknow]

Thanks dave..

So there is a difference? When someone is from the group Unitarianisme is he automatic from Universalism, or are that two different groups?

Does Unitarianisme accept all beliefs? More info is welcome about what people who follow unitarianism belief..

When i look at google for Unitarians i get automatic sites from "Unitarian Universalims" people.. but i think that is something different than only being a unitarian.. but don't know, don't really understand it all. So is there a difference between being only a unitarian or being from the group unitarianisme universalim..

Neither are 'orthodox' Christianity (in the sense of being part of traditional accepted belief, not specifically the Eastern Orthodox Church).

Universalism is the belief that there is no Hell and that all (the universe in its entirety) will be saved. (Not to be confused with 'Arminianism' or other such groups which believes that all may be saved, but not that all necessarily will be saved).

Unitarianism is the belief which is a rejection of the Holy Trinity, the belief held to be Trinitarians. Unitarianism does not view the Father Son and Holy Spirit as one God in three persons. To be a Christian, you must accept that Jesus is God and that He is the Son of God. Unitarians reject this.

 

[Dontknow]

Thanks, don't really get it.. maybe there come some more reactions.

This forum is for questions about Christianity, so I don't think you're going to get a lot of answers about Unitarians here.

Universalism, within Christianity, refers to the heretical belief that all people will be saved and that all means of salvation are valid.

Universalism is a part of Unitarianism, but how similar they are, I wouldn't know.

 

[razeontherock]

UU for short is not as simple or unified as this thread presents it. Some could very well hold the concept of Trinity, and ... it just doesn't matter within UU. I would say that it waters down Christian doctrine so much that none of it has any affect.

 

[wsgqapu_ap]

There used to a Unitarian Church and a Universalist Church, but they merged into the Unitarian Universalist Church. In general, they're a pretty liberal faith group and one could be a Pagan or a Christian or a Buddhist and attend a Unitarian Universalist Church. If you read their website, I'm sure there'd be a better description of their core beliefs.

Apart from the Unitarian Universalist Church, which can include a wide range of faith backgrounds (and people who are neither Unitarian or Universalist), there are other people who hold to Unitarianism or to Universalism (or both) who are not part of the denomination of Unitarian Universalism.

Hope that didn't make you more confused.

 

[Mr Dave]

Thanks dave..

So there is a difference? When someone is from the group Unitarianisme is he automatic from Universalism, or are that two different groups?

Does Unitarianisme accept all beliefs? More info is welcome about what people who follow unitarianism belief..

When i look at google for Unitarians i get automatic sites from "Unitarian Universalims" people.. but i think that is something different than only being a unitarian.. but don't know, don't really understand it all. So is there a difference between being only a unitarian or being from the group unitarianisme universalim..

wsgqapu_ap has it in the post preceding this one. The two are definitely different beliefs, although there are some people which define themselves by accepting both of them.

This is the unitarian page from the UK Unitarians: Are you a Unitarian?

It seems Universalism really caught on as a big movement in the USA and joined with unitarians, so the two are closely associated there. I've never put the two together, as in Britain there is the Unitarian Church (a very small group) and individuals, for the most part, may go universalist, but there isn't a large movement.

Universalism and Unitarianism are different beliefs, one is concerned with the nature of God the other is concerned with salvation.

Unitarians, despite taking the name 'Christian', do as they say on the website and take texts from all faiths as a vague guide and don't align themselves really to any one faith, but pick and choose from the Bible, the Qu'ran and other texts.

 

[Mr Dave]

Ah, British Unitarians are also universalist it would seem too;

Many came to question 'orthodox' Christian doctrine and to affirm beliefs of their own. These included:

The Unity or unipersonality of God, as opposed to the doctrine of the Trinity - hence the name 'Unitarian'.

The humanity, as opposed to the deity, of Christ.

The worth of human beings, as opposed to ideas of original sin, inherited guilt and innate depravity.

The universal salvation of all souls, as opposed to the doctrine that most of humanity is predestined to damnation.

Unitarians: What we believe

The two are most certainly differing beliefs, but universalism seems to be generally held by unitarians (but unitarianism is not a belief that would necessarily be held by universalists).

 

[Dontknow]

Thanks all for youre answers.

I have still one question, you guys give me 2 links, it's the same site that you both give me, that is a site from unitarians and not from Universalists, am i right?

 

[Dontknow]