Would Luke 21:8 and Romans 13:11 necessarily conflict?
Do Matthew 28:18 and Acts 2:36 necessarily mean that
Jesus became God?
Do Matthew 28:18 and Acts 2:36 necessarily mean that
Jesus became God?
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Question about scriptures
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Luke 21:8 "And he said, 'Beware, you should not be deceived, for many will come in the name of me saying 'I am he', and, 'the time has drawn near.' Do not follow after them."
Romans 13:11 "Besides this, you know the time that it is, how it is now the moment for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now then when we became believers."
Matthew 28:18 is saying to not believe anyone claiming to be God and that the time is near. Romans 13:11 is saying that we always have to act because the return is always approaching. There is no contradiction.
Jesus did not become God. He was God.
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First, in the first example please clarify where you may see a conflict so that i know how to address it.
As for the latter part, Jesus didn't become God. He always was God in the flesh. (John 1; John 8:58; 17:5; Philipp. 2:5-8)
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I don't think so. Luke 21:8 is warning about people like the guys who said the End was going to come on some date, so we should sell everything and go wait on a mountain somewhere.
That's not the same thing as Jesus' parables, which warned that Jesus would come without warning, and we had better live our lives so that we're ready. Paul never claimed that Jesus either had come or that there was a specific date. He never told people to do weird things because Jesus was about to come. Like Jesus, he warned them to live their lives like Jesus was coming back any time now.
The NT identifies Jesus with God. In various places it shows him as having God's authority, as speaking for God, as doing things only God can do. Mat 28:18 says that: it says Jesus has all authority, which I think implies God's authority. Act 2:36 says he was Lord and Messiah. Neither says "Jesus is God," and in fact note that the language of Act 2:36 speaks of God giving Jesus authority, which reflects some kind of distinction.
The reason for this is quite clear: Jesus is a human being. You can't just say "Jesus is God" without making people think you're being absurd. It took several centuries of theological discussion to get to the point where the Church could talk more directly about Jesus' divinity without contradicting his humanity. And even then, there were continuing problems with misunderstandings. Scripture takes a different approach. Rather than developing a complex philosophical structure, it speaks indirectly, using stories and images, and implying more than it says directly. Jesus has God's authority, is the human form of God's wisdom (John 1), God is fully present in him (Col 1).
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With regard to Luke 21:8 and Matthew 28:18- It's not only referencing people claiming to be Christ. Jesus is also referring to the Anti-Christ, or other forms of Jesus being preached from the pulpit. In one word- "Apostacy".
2Thes.2:3- "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
Second, Jesus wasn't "God in the flesh". He gave up all reputation and was made a little lower than the angels.
Phil. 2:7- "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"
Heb. 2:9- "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."
Jesus was the son of Man. This is extremely important for us to understand, because Jesus set an example. And like Elijah, God wants to elevate us as well. "Without a vision, my people perish".
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I do not read Luke 21:8 and Romans 13:11 as conflicting.
Regarding Matthew 28:18, consider who is doing the "giving"? Like wise, in Acts 2:36, consider who is "making" referring to? In both accounts, there are two people/beings mentioned.
Regarding Matthew 28:18, consider who is doing the "giving"? Like wise, in Acts 2:36, consider who is "making" referring to? In both accounts, there are two people/beings mentioned.
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