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We see MAGA hats everywhere, especially on news stories about political events.

MAGA stands for Make America Great Again, and Donald Trump introduced the slogan when he was running for President in 2016.

When did America stop being great? When do the people who wear MAGA hats think America stopped being great?
When does Donald Trump think America stopped being great?

I've been wondering about that since 2016.
 

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We see MAGA hats everywhere, especially on news stories about political events.

MAGA stands for Make America Great Again, and Donald Trump introduced the slogan when he was running for President in 2016.

When did America stop being great? When do the people who wear MAGA hats think America stopped being great?
When does Donald Trump think America stopped being great?

I've been wondering about that since 2016.
MAGA has been around since the days of Reagan. It started with his campaign slogan and Trump, knowing Republicans loved Reagan, swooped it up. Blessings.
 
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There have been a series of signs that something was up: 9/11, 2008 financial crash, COVID, and talk of civil war. 9/11/2001 was the most definitive sign that America wasn't great anymore.

America fell asleep at the so-called Russian revolution of 1991. The cold war merely went underground. IMO, 1991 was the end of America's greatness as it fell into a deep sleep.

There was the normalization of ties with China in 1979. Let's do a lot of trading with a country that hates us and points nuclear weapons at us. Good thinking.
 
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America fell asleep at the so-called Russian revolution of 1991. The cold war merely went underground. IMO, 1991 was the end of America's greatness as it fell into a deep sleep.

ironic, because that was the point where America was considered to become an unrivaled world superpower. 1991 was even dubbed "The End of History"... the new world order of universal liberal democracy flowing out of the West.
 
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MAGA has been around since the days of Reagan. It started with his campaign slogan and Trump, knowing Republicans loved Reagan, swooped it up. Blessings.

Thanks. I wonder what Ronald Reagan thought MAGA referred to. Or what his supporters thought it meant.
 
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We see MAGA hats everywhere, especially on news stories about political events.

MAGA stands for Make America Great Again, and Donald Trump introduced the slogan when he was running for President in 2016.

When did America stop being great? When do the people who wear MAGA hats think America stopped being great?
When does Donald Trump think America stopped being great?

I've been wondering about that since 2016.
I can't help wonder of Donald and many of his followers saw the election of a black president as a turning point.
 
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I can't help wonder of Donald an many of his followers saw the election of a black president as a turning point.

In the first year of Barack Obama's Presidency, I heard two men say, "Obama must be shot," or "Obama needs to be shot." Of course, I do live in a county filled with reactionaries.
 
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We see MAGA hats everywhere, especially on news stories about political events.

MAGA stands for Make America Great Again, and Donald Trump introduced the slogan when he was running for President in 2016.

When did America stop being great? When do the people who wear MAGA hats think America stopped being great?
When does Donald Trump think America stopped being great?

I've been wondering about that since 2016.
Fair Question. I think this question can only be understood by someone lived in the last century. Younger people today may not understand much about this since their memories developed during a time when America has gone through a very dark transitional peroid.

America stopped being great during the Bush years (Bush #43). America just got attacked by Islamic terrorists on 9/11 and that event changed our country and not for the best either. Not long after 9/11, war propaganda began flooding our media and it began to turn people into zombies for a leftist anti-american cause. Of course, Bush' failed econony and failed exit strategy for the war sure didn't help matters. In fact, it made things worse. People changed during the recession that lasted from late 1999 to 2016. I was unemployed for 8 years during that time without a job. Altogether, I was unemployed most of this century due to bad politics. Thanks to Trump and former governor Scott Walker, I work now. But during the resession you would meet many people who didn't have a job and everybody was struggling.

Then we had an election. Desperate to get rid of the former administration that was doing nothing to help the country get back on its feet, many of us felt like Obama would be worth the vote. We knew that John McCain was compromised and would not help the country anymore than Bush did. So we threw dice and voted for Obama. During the first term of Obama he did not do anything to help the economy or the chaos on the border. As for the war, that was still raging with no exit in sight and no real goal as to why and how our solders were fighting it? We just kept fighting with no end in sight. Many of us grew brains during Obama's first term and realized that Obama was not only another bad politician, but also a traitor with a plan to destroy America through Marxism. So we got off the Obama train and rallied against it.
Then the 2012 election came. Many of us thought that maybe had we overlooked Romney's Mormonism in the 2008 election, he might have defeated Obama and fixed the country. So we supported Romney only to watch him throw away the last debate with Obama as if he could not beat Obama. Romney lost the election.

The final 4 years of Obama was truly the turning point for this country. Obama had managed to bring back racism but this time racism was aimed at white people. Marxism is an ideology that divides people by class and race. Obama is a Marxism so division was his goal and he achieved his goal. The country was divided and we had another eleciton. Many of us got smart and realized that voting for anyone who goes by the title progressive, whether it was a Democrat or Republican, would give us more of the same misery. We wanted our country back the way it was before planet progressive marched in and made everyone crazy and down right stupid. We looked for the right Candidate that we knew all progressives worldwide would hate. When Donald Trump gave his Announcement Speech we knew we had found our man. Thus we supported Trump think and thin without care of what the leftist media would say about him. We knew he was not bought and paid for and he had always had that American pride that could never be compromised. Trump won in 2016 and our country was returning to its former greatness.

Had Trump been allowed to win the 2020 election, what would we be like today? Anyone who wanted to work for a living would be living in a 1960s economy but making the wages they earn today!! Do the math. We'd all be rich!! And I'll be honest here, I was getting rich off Trump's policies! I went from rags and poverty up into the middle class almost overnight. Trump was indeed making America great again!

Now, with election many of us are absolutely convinced was stolen, we have a President who acts more like a Puppet than an American leader, Biden has weakened America more than Obama could have dreamed of. Obama may have done great evil to this country, but he did not destroy it. Biden is making sure America is destroyed. The cost of living is hardly something to tolerate. We are literally being invaded by several armies of all men of fighting age at the border. People who live near the border are losing their homes and property to this invasion of mostly all men of fighting age. Fentanyl is being trafficked and murdering millions of Americans which continues to go unchecked. Human trafficking is on a steady rise with no signs of slowing down. We are a country so divided that had our leaders and soliders of the Civil War be able to witness today, they might have found a better way to resolve their differences. For we are far more divided than we were during the Civil War. The North and South still shared things in common together. Conservatives share nothing in common with the left. Each side holds beliefs completely contrary to the other. The two sides cannot co-exist. We are on the verge of another bloody Civil War and all because these people who used to call themselves progressives, but now are usually called woke, want to abolish Christianity, capitalism, exterminate all Jews, and deify the government.

So when Trump says Make America Great Again its because we were much greater before the maddening wine of planet progressive. Back in the 1990s, you would never meet a racist unless you lived in L.A. Since most Americans don't live in L.A., racism was nearly extinct and the KKK becoming nothing but a nasty fart in the wind. Bush #43 did little to help our problems from becoming major problem. Obama made America a place of evil. Biden is destroying America. And if we don't vote out all Democrats and those progressive RINO Republicans (who are Democrats under the name Republican), then we can just say goodbye to America.

My mom is sad that she was born in America but has to die in China. What we are living today, right now, is not what our founders intended. We are living in tyranny and this tyranny will only get much worse if we continue to allow such evil to permeate and become normalized in this country. We are being faced with the harsh reality of another civil war if we cannot remove the wicked politicians from our midst. All these people who voted for mass migration are not so unhappy living in a sancturary city. They want something done about all the crime that has come through the unprotected border. But they voted for it. For some people its taken much longer to wise up. We have less than a year for this country to wise up as a nation. If we do not understand Trump's message and continue to entertain the evil politicians who want to imprison him, then we are next in line to be imprisoned for whatever reason the government decided to imprison us for,

Make America Great Again are not the words spoken by terrorists as Biden claims they are. They are the words spoken by average Americans who have suffered under the bad policies of planet progressive. MAGA are your average working class Americans....law abiding citizens.
 
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MAGA has been around since the days of Reagan. It started with his campaign slogan and Trump, knowing Republicans loved Reagan, swooped it up. Blessings.
So "MAGA" is actually over 40 years old. Amazing that's the first time I've ever seen that presented. As I recall Bob Dole had a similar pitch of bringing America back to what it was in the good old days.
 
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I can't help wonder of Donald an many of his followers saw the election of a black president as a turning point.
Beyond any doubt, the election of a so called "black man" pushed many right wingers further right and we saw the Tea Party begin to get control of the Republican Party. The birthers, with Trump joining in, pushing conspiracy theories kept pushing things further right and Trump, getting embarrassed by Obama, really went crazy and his anger ignited many Americans who had no idea why they were angry.

The further Republicans go right, the more they push Democrats to the left.
 
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Gotta love that obsessive "racist" labeling. I wonder what the disclaimer will be if Trump wins again, considering Joe is as white as vanilla ice cream on paper plate. Besides, they obviously didn't have a problem with color since they voted for someone who's orange.
 
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Gotta love that obsessive "racist" labeling.
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“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it,” Trump told John R. O’Donnell, the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, according O’Donnell’s account in his 1991 book “Trumped!” “The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.”
Trump, according to O’Donnell, went on to say, “‘Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that.”

“Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” he asked in response, using a racial slur for the Japanese.


“They don’t look like Indians to me, and they don’t look like Indians to Indians, and a lot of people are laughing at it,” Trump said of the Mashantucket Pequots who operate Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut during testimony before Congress in 1993.
 
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Beyond any doubt, the election of a so called "black man" pushed many right wingers further right and we saw the Tea Party begin to get control of the Republican Party. The birthers, with Trump joining in, pushing conspiracy theories kept pushing things further right and Trump, getting embarrassed by Obama, really went crazy and his anger ignited many Americans who had no idea why they were angry.

The further Republicans go right, the more they push Democrats to the left.
I voted for Obama in 2008. His skin color did not have anything to do with me voting for him or turning on him. Like all conservatives who voted for him and then turned on him, it had everything to do with Obama's Marxist agenda. So when you talk about conservatives and why disliked Obama so much, then you have to say it was because of his Marxism. We are not racist and to suggest we are racist is a lie. There was no racism in America before Obama got elected and began forcing his Marxist agenda. America was a peaceful country before Marxist Obama. So Obama became the shame of this country because of his agenda and that only. There are no racists among conservatives.
 
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“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it,” Trump told John R. O’Donnell, the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, according O’Donnell’s account in his 1991 book “Trumped!” “The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.”
Trump, according to O’Donnell, went on to say, “‘Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that.”

“Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” he asked in response, using a racial slur for the Japanese.


“They don’t look like Indians to me, and they don’t look like Indians to Indians, and a lot of people are laughing at it,” Trump said of the Mashantucket Pequots who operate Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut during testimony before Congress in 1993.
That's one out of a hundred million who are labeled "racist".
 
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That's one out of a hundred million who are labeled "racist".
Why defend him at all cost when he is clearly what he is.

The thing is, those who support Biden know and accept that he is a bad choice. But not as bad as Trump.

Those who support Trump pretty much are enamored by him. He can do no wrong. They believe every word he speaks and defend him no matter what he says or does.

OP asked "When was America great"? I gave my answer from what I perceive as MAGA perspective. What is your answer.
 
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Why defend him at all cost when he is clearly what he is.

The thing is, those who support Biden know and accept that he is a bad choice. But not as bad as Trump.

Those who support Trump pretty much are enamored by him. He can do no wrong. They believe every word he speaks and defend him no matter what he says or does.

OP asked "When was America great"? I gave my answer from what I perceive as MAGA perspective. What is your answer.
What does that have to do with the obsessive "racist" labeling of a hundred million people? You're old enough to know that didn't start in 2016 and doesn't exist because of one person.
 
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Why defend him at all cost when he is clearly what he is.

The thing is, those who support Biden know and accept that he is a bad choice. But not as bad as Trump.

Those who support Trump pretty much are enamored by him. He can do no wrong. They believe every word he speaks and defend him no matter what he says or does.

OP asked "When was America great"? I gave my answer from what I perceive as MAGA perspective. What is your answer.
I think its more like we're not so self-righteous that we cannot overlook Trump's short comings. We have a choice: Trump or socialism. We see Trump as the worst enemy of socialism so we vote for him. Better to vote Trump and end socialism then it is to have another civil war because of socialism. Its not a hard choice. Socialism has failed. We don't need more of that failure in America.
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I voted for Obama in 2008. His skin color did not have anything to do with me voting for him or turning on him. Like all conservatives who voted for him and then turned on him, it had everything to do with Obama's Marxist agenda. So when you talk about conservatives and why disliked Obama so much, then you have to say it was because of his Marxism. We are not racist and to suggest we are racist is a lie. There was no racism in America before Obama got elected and began forcing his Marxist agenda. America was a peaceful country before Marxist Obama. So Obama became the shame of this country because of his agenda and that only. There are no racists among conservatives.
You must have not paid any attention to Obama's agenda because even Marxist said that theory was crazy.

Not all conservatives are racist but all most Americans, we all have some racist tendencies and I've never said all conservatives are racist. But, many Americans are and that includes liberals. There was a vast show of racism after Obama was elected and many whites hated the idea of a black in the Whitehouse was unAmerican, even though Obama was half white.

Obama is still one of the most popular and successful American presidents in our history.
 
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It might depend on what one considers great again?

If what is great means safe and prosperous, which is something the ancient Israelites strove for, we would probably end up in the same vicious cycle they were in. The little foxes spoiled the vines. So it would probably take a leader with the wisdom of Solomon to get us all the way out of the cycle we're caught in. The best bet might be to build a time machine large enough for 2, and bring Abraham Lincoln back. We may have moments of peace and prosperity, but if one of the little foxes is racism/ethnic discrimination, then it'll probably be temporary.

We were never great when it comes to racism/ethnic discrimination. There's not one time in our history where we could claim greatness as far as the lack of it. Whether we're talking about the deep south conservative racist, or the liberal Hollywood producer who figured out how to market racial stereotypes to make it palatable to the mainstream.
 
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